1290 refill with MIS resetter

[André32998]

Hi,

In earlier replies I have been very suspicious of the resetter software from MIS for the chipped cart type of printers.

Today I downloaded the tried out resetting software ,firstly installing my 1290 on LPT1 and swapping my 1160 on USB.
The resetting of my color cart went without any problems, in a DOS box in Win98.

My "old" OEM color cart wasn't empty yet, just half full, but I resetted it to full, took it out and installed a new one to keep the empty space occupied.

I refilled this old resetted cart carefully, let it rest for 3 hours (a bit short but I couldn't wait longer) and putted it back into the printer.
After a few cleanings all runs well and even the colors are good.

Must say that if this process remains this simple, without the appearance of clogging, this is a good alternative against the expensive CIS system and the difficult CFS system, for users who don't mind to refill. Besides the (cheap/good) ink, the only costs is the resetting software of $ 20,- and an extra cart at side.

One thing bothers me though, I've printed 7 A4 pics and the inkstatus still state 100% full color cart in the Epson driver and resetting software. I hope one way or the other these programs will present me how the refilled cart degrades, otherwise it's hard to measure when to refill again.

Happy so far.

André

 

[Bill Hansen #40902]

Hi Andre,

After resetting the cartridge, does the ink level show a drop within the Epson Status Monitor as you proceed with printing? Or is the level permanently reset to a full status, with NO change thereafter as you use ink?

I hope the former (so you can know your ink status) and NOT the latter, which could cause you the disaster of running the print head dry! You DO NOT want to do this... that could damage the ink driver (piezo) elements
(the ink cools them).
Bill Hansen

Hi,

In earlier replies I have been very suspicious of the resetter
software from MIS for the chipped cart type of printers.
Today I downloaded the tried out resetting software ,firstly
installing my 1290 on LPT1 and swapping my 1160 on USB.
The resetting of my color cart went without any problems, in a DOS
box in Win98.
My "old" OEM color cart wasn't empty yet, just half full, but I
resetted it to full, took it out and installed a new one to keep
the empty space occupied.
I refilled this old resetted cart carefully, let it rest for 3
hours (a bit short but I couldn't wait longer) and putted it back
into the printer.
After a few cleanings all runs well and even the colors are good.

Must say that if this process remains this simple, without the
appearance of clogging, this is a good alternative against the
expensive CIS system and the difficult CFS system, for users who
don't mind to refill. Besides the (cheap/good) ink, the only costs
is the resetting software of $ 20,- and an extra cart at side.

One thing bothers me though, I've printed 7 A4 pics and the
inkstatus still state 100% full color cart in the Epson driver and
resetting software. I hope one way or the other these programs will
present me how the refilled cart degrades, otherwise it's hard to
measure when to refill again.

Happy so far.

André

 

[Bob Meyer]

Hi Andre,
After resetting the cartridge, does the ink level show a drop
within the Epson Status Monitor as you proceed with printing? Or is
the level permanently reset to a full status, with NO change
thereafter as you use ink?
I hope the former (so you can know your ink status) and NOT the
latter, which could cause you the disaster of running the print
head dry! You DO NOT want to do this... that could damage the ink
driver (piezo) elements
(the ink cools them).

The software does NOT write protect the chip. The Epson printer will still write updates to the chip as the ink is used.

bob m.

 

[André32998]

Correction, the MIS resetting software is now counting down the inklevel after some more prints. I think the graphical inkstatus picture of the driver will do the same soon.

Quite happy now with resetting/refilling.

André

 

[Barry14247]

André

This has little to do with your post, it's just that I intend to buy an A3+ printer and the two machines I have in mind are the Epson 1160 and 1290.

As you have both printers, how do you think their output compares when printing A3+ size pictures?

Regards
Barry

 

[André32998]

André

This has little to do with your post, it's just that I intend to
buy an A3+ printer and the two machines I have in mind are the
Epson 1160 and 1290.

As you have both printers, how do you think their output compares
when printing A3+ size pictures?

My Epson 1290 is for color use and my 1160 is for B/W Quadtone use.

The 1160 is a fine printer also for color pics, but the 1290 will give you the best prints possible at this time and in the pricerange of consumerprinters.

If I was you I only would choose the 1160 if you can get that printer for at least half the price of the 1290. If you are planning to have a B/W setup, then the 1160 is preffered over the 1290. This because with its four colors it is easier to manipulate B/W output.

A3 color pics printed on a 1290 are excellent, the bigger the size the more overwhelming the picture. I have a lot of fun in printing/ showing and admiring.

One thing to keep in mind is that your prints depend on the digital quality of your material. The use of a good scanner or a good digicam is a mayor importance.

André

 

[Michael Thomas Mitchell]

Barry,

The comments on the 1160 by Andre are sound. I own both printers, as well as an additional 1160 for quadtone, and it is indeed a fine printer. Even in side-by-side comparisons, the 1160 stands up VERY well against the 1270. They both offer 4picoliter drop sizes, which suggests other similarities in the engines. And it's entirely reasonable to expect great prints from 4 colors.

The differences are probably most in longevity, however. The 1160 uses standard dye-based inks. Expect display prints to last just a couple of years. The 1270 is a different story, as you probably already know. Despite some user problems reported, it's designed to produce prints comparable with traditional film.

On the other hand, the 1160 is compatible with third party archival inks, which can produce prints outlasting the 1270. The drawback is that these pigment-based inks are not compatible with glossy papers. If you don't need gloss and required longevity, it's the answer for you probably. And of course, the 1160 does great black and white using quadtone inks.

M

André

This has little to do with your post, it's just that I intend to
buy an A3+ printer and the two machines I have in mind are the
Epson 1160 and 1290.

As you have both printers, how do you think their output compares
when printing A3+ size pictures?

My Epson 1290 is for color use and my 1160 is for B/W Quadtone use.
The 1160 is a fine printer also for color pics, but the 1290 will
give you the best prints possible at this time and in the
pricerange of consumerprinters.

If I was you I only would choose the 1160 if you can get that
printer for at least half the price of the 1290. If you are
planning to have a B/W setup, then the 1160 is preffered over the
1290. This because with its four colors it is easier to manipulate
B/W output.

A3 color pics printed on a 1290 are excellent, the bigger the size
the more overwhelming the picture. I have a lot of fun in printing/
showing and admiring.
One thing to keep in mind is that your prints depend on the digital
quality of your material. The use of a good scanner or a good
digicam is a mayor importance.

André

 

[Barry14247]

My Epson 1290 is for color use and my 1160 is for B/W Quadtone use.
The 1160 is a fine printer also for color pics, but the 1290 will
give you the best prints possible at this time and in the
pricerange of consumerprinters.

If I was you I only would choose the 1160 if you can get that
printer for at least half the price of the 1290. If you are
planning to have a B/W setup, then the 1160 is preffered over the
1290. This because with its four colors it is easier to manipulate
B/W output.

A3 color pics printed on a 1290 are excellent, the bigger the size
the more overwhelming the picture. I have a lot of fun in printing/
showing and admiring.
One thing to keep in mind is that your prints depend on the digital
quality of your material. The use of a good scanner or a good
digicam is a mayor importance.

André

André

Thanks for the advice. At the moment I'm using an Epson Stylus 760 which I think is the A4 version of the 1160, it uses the same ink cartridges. I've been very pleased with the printouts at A4 from my Canon G1 with the 760 and Printrite compatible cartridges on Epson heavyweight matte but I naturally want to go to A3.

In the UK I can buy an 1160 for £222 or a 1290 for £343, but there's also the big difference in cartridge price to consider with the 1290's being twice the price for compatibles or about 4 times the price for genuine Epsons, and to be honest I don't really fancy risking the use of compatible cartridges in a printer the price of the 1290.

I think from what you and Michael have said, I will continue to use my 760 for A4 prints, and I'll get the 1290 for when I need extra quality or A3 print size.

Regards,
Barry

 

[Barry14247]

Michael,

Many thanks for the advice, please see my reply to Andre.

Regards,
Barry

 

[André32998]

there's also the big difference in cartridge price to consider with
the 1290's being twice the price for compatibles or about 4 times
the price for genuine Epsons, and to be honest I don't really fancy
risking the use of compatible cartridges in a printer the price of
the 1290.

I think from what you and Michael have said, I will continue to use
my 760 for A4 prints, and I'll get the 1290 for when I need extra
quality or A3 print size.

Regards,
Barry

barry,

This posting started with the message that the MIS resetter 1290 software works fine in the working with refilling cartridges with MIS ink.
At this time it's my way to beat the high Epson cartridge price with my 1290.

There are inksystems available for the 1290 and having two MIS inksystems running on my 1160 and 900, I can say that it works even better than using Epson OEM carts. This because, the once put in place inksystem carts are never to be removed again. Therefor the printhead is never exposed to air again and this deminishes the risk of headclogs.

Because the Nomorecarts 1290 inksystem is to expensive for me to order, I wait for a better-cheaper MIS solution ( virgin CFS carts ) . Then I surely order my third CFS system.

You are right saying that a 1290 is a to valuable printer to provide bad carts to, like those ILRS - unknown ink - carts.

From many reports and own experience, companies like MIS has proven me to be a reliable and open player on the ink market.

So there are good alternatives for 1290 alternative inking. But be sure to be able to track down the origin and quality of the ink.

good luck,

André

 

[Bob The Bodybuilder]

Hi,

In earlier replies I have been very suspicious of the resetter
software from MIS for the chipped cart type of printers.
Today I downloaded the tried out resetting software ,firstly
installing my 1290 on LPT1 and swapping my 1160 on USB.
The resetting of my color cart went without any problems, in a DOS
box in Win98.
My "old" OEM color cart wasn't empty yet, just half full, but I
resetted it to full, took it out and installed a new one to keep
the empty space occupied.
I refilled this old resetted cart carefully, let it rest for 3
hours (a bit short but I couldn't wait longer) and putted it back
into the printer.
After a few cleanings all runs well and even the colors are good.

Must say that if this process remains this simple, without the
appearance of clogging, this is a good alternative against the
expensive CIS system and the difficult CFS system, for users who
don't mind to refill. Besides the (cheap/good) ink, the only costs
is the resetting software of $ 20,- and an extra cart at side.

One thing bothers me though, I've printed 7 A4 pics and the
inkstatus still state 100% full color cart in the Epson driver and
resetting software. I hope one way or the other these programs will
present me how the refilled cart degrades, otherwise it's hard to
measure when to refill again.

Happy so far.

André