AFI: Where would you put it on the F505V?

[Ulysses]

As we all know the most famous aspect of the F505V is that it's body rotates/swivels relative to the main portion of the lens. These sections are hinged together.

Now, knowing that bit of information, where would you place the Autofocus Illumination lamp? Everyone assumes that we will have this feature on a potential next-gen F505x.

But where would you put that feature on a camera with a swiveling body? Can you describe it? Can you draw a picture? Can you post a picture with an arrow pointing to where you'd envision it?

Let's create our next camera!

--

Ulysses
http://www.pioneeris.net/ashton/F505V/megalist.htm
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[Bradly]

I'd say that there would be a little protrusion on the lens... sort of a 505 nipple.

Or just plop it up with the flash. Being that if your in that dim of light your gonna be using the flash anyway.

As we all know the most famous aspect of the F505V is that it's
body rotates/swivels relative to the main portion of the lens.
These sections are hinged together.

Now, knowing that bit of information, where would you place the
Autofocus Illumination lamp? Everyone assumes that we will have
this feature on a potential next-gen F505x.

But where would you put that feature on a camera with a swiveling
body? Can you describe it? Can you draw a picture? Can you post a
picture with an arrow pointing to where you'd envision it?

Let's create our next camera!

--

Ulysses
http://www.pioneeris.net/ashton/F505V/megalist.htm
F505V Gallery Mega-List

 

[greg]

Here's where I would put it.



Appreciation and thank you goes to Phil Askey for giving me permission to modify and post his photo. greg

As we all know the most famous aspect of the F505V is that it's
body rotates/swivels relative to the main portion of the lens.
These sections are hinged together.

Now, knowing that bit of information, where would you place the
Autofocus Illumination lamp? Everyone assumes that we will have
this feature on a potential next-gen F505x.

But where would you put that feature on a camera with a swiveling
body? Can you describe it? Can you draw a picture? Can you post a
picture with an arrow pointing to where you'd envision it?

Let's create our next camera!

--

Ulysses
http://www.pioneeris.net/ashton/F505V/megalist.htm
F505V Gallery Mega-List

 

[Phil Askey]

That assumes you'd have the flash up to take a shot in low light.. not something I would do.. Personally I'd put a row of three IR LED's behind a parlty curved window just below the lens, something like this:

Appreciation and thank you goes to Phil Askey for giving me
permission to modify and post his photo. greg

As we all know the most famous aspect of the F505V is that it's
body rotates/swivels relative to the main portion of the lens.
These sections are hinged together.

Now, knowing that bit of information, where would you place the
Autofocus Illumination lamp? Everyone assumes that we will have
this feature on a potential next-gen F505x.

But where would you put that feature on a camera with a swiveling
body? Can you describe it? Can you draw a picture? Can you post a
picture with an arrow pointing to where you'd envision it?

Let's create our next camera!

--

Ulysses
http://www.pioneeris.net/ashton/F505V/megalist.htm
F505V Gallery Mega-List

 

[greg]

Valid point and well taken, however based on the current models that use AFI, I thought that feature is only enabled when using the flash. Hence I put it next to the flash. Your design can be used all the time, which covers all situations.

Appreciation and thank you goes to Phil Askey for giving me
permission to modify and post his photo. greg

As we all know the most famous aspect of the F505V is that it's
body rotates/swivels relative to the main portion of the lens.
These sections are hinged together.

Now, knowing that bit of information, where would you place the
Autofocus Illumination lamp? Everyone assumes that we will have
this feature on a potential next-gen F505x.

But where would you put that feature on a camera with a swiveling
body? Can you describe it? Can you draw a picture? Can you post a
picture with an arrow pointing to where you'd envision it?

Let's create our next camera!

--

Ulysses
http://www.pioneeris.net/ashton/F505V/megalist.htm
F505V Gallery Mega-List

 

[Ulysses]

Each of these was EXTREMELY well done. Bravo!! to both of you guys. )

Looks like after those two efforts, no one else is even going to make the attempt. I would have put my own, but as you now, AFI simply doesn't animate very wildly. ))

I notice that greg went the more traditional and currently implemented AFI route, and that Phil presented a more forward-looking IR device.

You guys know how I just luv the infrared. Heheheh...

Phil Askey wrote:

greg wrote:

 

[Ulysses]

Wow, we've gotten three excellent ideas already. Maybe there are even more to come.

But no matter how you do it, I keep coming up with the same conclusion:
MANNNNN!! That's a good-looking camera!!

Heheheheh...

... and it takes great pics, too.

 

[Bradly]

I guess my posts just don't get read.... Oh well

Bubeye

I'd say that there would be a little protrusion on the lens... sort
of a 505 nipple.

Or just plop it up with the flash. Being that if your in that dim
of light your gonna be using the flash anyway.

 

[Pondria]

I like this one. It looks as if it's a picture of the real thing.

Appreciation and thank you goes to Phil Askey for giving me
permission to modify and post his photo. greg

As we all know the most famous aspect of the F505V is that it's
body rotates/swivels relative to the main portion of the lens.
These sections are hinged together.

Now, knowing that bit of information, where would you place the
Autofocus Illumination lamp? Everyone assumes that we will have
this feature on a potential next-gen F505x.

But where would you put that feature on a camera with a swiveling
body? Can you describe it? Can you draw a picture? Can you post a
picture with an arrow pointing to where you'd envision it?

Let's create our next camera!

--

Ulysses
http://www.pioneeris.net/ashton/F505V/megalist.htm
F505V Gallery Mega-List

 

[Ed (;¬ >)]

But Phil. Aren't you covering up the existing photosensor?

How about:

That assumes you'd have the flash up to take a shot in low light..
not something I would do.. Personally I'd put a row of three IR
LED's behind a parlty curved window just below the lens, something
like this:

 

[Ulysses]

I guess my posts just don't get read.... Oh well

Ohh... stop yer cryin'. ))

We liked yours, too, OKAY???

 

[Ulysses]

But Phil. Aren't you covering up the existing photosensor?
How about:

Ed, are you saying that it would have the IR emitters bulging off of the manual focus ring? Is that what I'm seeing? How odd.

 

[Paul Hulse]

Ulysses,

My Minolta Vectis S-1 uses the flash for auto focus if it's too dark. It sets off a series of short flashes, about 5 - 8, and uses that illumination to work it's autofocus. It will then take the picture, flashing multiple times again if red-eye reduction is selected, or once otherwise.

Any reason the digital camera can't do the same?

Paul

 

[Ulysses]

Any reason the digital camera can't do the same?

Uhhhmmm... it's not cool enough??? ;o)

 

[Ed (;¬ >)]

But Phil. Aren't you covering up the existing photosensor?
How about:

Ed, are you saying that it would have the IR emitters bulging off
of the manual focus ring? Is that what I'm seeing? How odd.

Odd?

Not necessarily. Look at the Olympus C-25000L. or the Mavica line with Steady Shot (which actually interferes with focussing.)

This would be a little hump that would ride above the focus ring opposite from where one's hand would be. Since the fly-by-wire manual focus needs only a partial turn of the ring it shouldn't get in the way.

Of course if the optics allow room we could just move Phil's LED group to the top or side. Looks a lot neater but I wonder about room?

 

[Ulysses]

Odd?
Not necessarily. Look at the ... the Mavica line
with Steady Shot (which actually interferes with focussing.)

Gawd!! Don't compare our sleek and svelt F505V to THAT!! ;-)

[... of course, the CD1000 and the FD97/FD95 are all very nice cameras for what they bring to the table. Hehehh...]

 

[Ivo34672]

That assumes you'd have the flash up to take a shot in low light..
not something I would do.. Personally I'd put a row of three IR
LED's behind a parlty curved window just below the lens, something
like this:

Well done picture,

but if you do it this way, the AFI may be affected by any gadgets attached to the lens thread (filter, converter and so on)...

I suppose there is NO right place to attach a AFI on the F505V (without disturbing the cool design)...

Ivo

Appreciation and thank you goes to Phil Askey for giving me
permission to modify and post his photo. greg

As we all know the most famous aspect of the F505V is that it's
body rotates/swivels relative to the main portion of the lens.
These sections are hinged together.

Now, knowing that bit of information, where would you place the
Autofocus Illumination lamp? Everyone assumes that we will have
this feature on a potential next-gen F505x.

But where would you put that feature on a camera with a swiveling
body? Can you describe it? Can you draw a picture? Can you post a
picture with an arrow pointing to where you'd envision it?

Let's create our next camera!

--

Ulysses
http://www.pioneeris.net/ashton/F505V/megalist.htm
F505V Gallery Mega-List

 

[Ivo34672]

But Phil. Aren't you covering up the existing photosensor?
How about:

Ed, are you saying that it would have the IR emitters bulging off
of the manual focus ring? Is that what I'm seeing? How odd.

Coool. The focus ring has just to be elastic enough...

I think there is NO right position for the AFI on the F505V, this bulge disturbes the great design of the camera...

Ivo

 

[Ivo34672]

I think there is NO right position for the AFI on the F505V

hm, said this a few minutes ago... couldn´t remember.....

 

[Ulysses]

Ivo wrote:

Well done picture,

but if you do it this way, the AFI may be affected by any gadgets
attached to the lens thread (filter, converter and so on)...

Yes, it's going to be interesting. Of course, we are assuming that the F505V design cues stay identical to what they are now. There could be a major reworking of the design that we can hardly even imagine. That is, the cues of rotating lens/body remain, but the overall hull changes. Wouldn't THAT be something.

I think that Phil's sample is totally workable. But you'd have to widen the bezel itself covering the lens. ORRRRRRR... one of the sensors in the array itself would be the light meter sensor, with one or two of the others the IR emitters and sensors. Who knows?? Sony might even be planning a tricorder and life signs reader in there!!!

Wow!