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this or next summer i plan to make a three week trip through the amazon jungle. and... i would like to take my digital camera (canon 10d) along.

do you have any ideas if there is a way to recharge my batteries along the way ? (in the jungle there won't be many power plugs...)
portable gas generator maybe ? (is there one small enough ?)
 
If you have access to a vehicle, go for an invertor. Cheap and small.

Or even if you have access to any kind of engine, you can buy a small alternator type setup.
this or next summer i plan to make a three week trip through the
amazon jungle. and... i would like to take my digital camera (canon
10d) along.
do you have any ideas if there is a way to recharge my batteries
along the way ? (in the jungle there won't be many power plugs...)
portable gas generator maybe ? (is there one small enough ?)
 
nope, no vehicle or engine. on foot only... that's why i was thinking if there exists a really portable generator...
 
How many photos do you expect to take.

Each battery will last for at least 200-300 photos so taking 5 batteries at say £15 a time won't break the bank.

I would invest in a car charger in case you do get the opportunity for a top up charge.
 
you could probably find a portable power supply at the hardware store ... basically, its a car-battery with std electrical outputs you could plug the charger in ... not, sure if you want to take that to the Amazon though (!) ...sound like an interesting trip
this or next summer i plan to make a three week trip through the
amazon jungle. and... i would like to take my digital camera (canon
10d) along.
do you have any ideas if there is a way to recharge my batteries
along the way ? (in the jungle there won't be many power plugs...)
portable gas generator maybe ? (is there one small enough ?)
 
I've known a few people power their laptops on a small windmill type device, when they have been in in-accessable places. The things can also be placed in a river to to work like a water wheel, and I know they have attached them to the side of the boat to power the laptop.

I've lost touch with these people now, but it was a compact and inexpensive device. Not too realible from all accounts, but it was their only choice, and not huge amount of power either. It just ran these laptops.

You could also crank it manually if you had no wind or water, but it was almost impossible to maintain for more than a couple of minutes.

Might be OK, for you, and they may well have improved the technology now as it was maybe five years ago.

I know that they brought them from an extreme sports place, but they had actually been made somewhere like Etheopia and imported.
nope, no vehicle or engine. on foot only... that's why i was
thinking if there exists a really portable generator...
 
this or next summer i plan to make a three week trip through the
amazon jungle. and... i would like to take my digital camera (canon
10d) along.
do you have any ideas if there is a way to recharge my batteries
along the way ? (in the jungle there won't be many power plugs...)
portable gas generator maybe ? (is there one small enough ?)
Let's see... Foot travel means carrying everything on your back.... Car battery? Ever carry one of those any distance? Generator would only work if it weighed in at 5 pounds or less, you will already be carrying an extra 10-20 pounds of photo gear (including tripod). Solar might be the only way to go, but charging will take all day, and you might not find a lot of sun actually making it to the forest floor. And don't forget how much each of those batteries you need weighs, before going and buying an extra 5 or 10 of them.

Now lets at film. A good medium format camera only needs a small battery for the light meter and to trip the shutter, you could easily go the entire trip with one battery. But if you don't have the equipment, then it is all for nothing. A good 35mm film camera could go the entire trip on a couple of sets of batteries, as long as you don't go mad with the motordrive. That's all great, but let's look at why film cameras may not be a good choice. Water. There tends to be a lot of that substance in places like where you are going, it's everywhere. Not a good thing for a camera that may not seal as tight as a digital. You also need to carry a bunch of film, and then get it back home to be developed. The weight of all the equipment is going to be similar, so there is no advantage here.

For things like what you are doing, digital seems to be the clear winner, with the exception of the batteries. If your camera can be used with AA batteries, you might consider Lithium AA cells, they are lighter weight than NiCad or NiMH and have a similar energy density, but you will still need a bunch of them. But if you can use AA cells, then you can also bring along a decent point n shoot for a back-up. Have to bring some kind of back-up camera, and it would be nice if it would take the same batteries, and same memory card. If you can use AA cells, then you also might have a beeter time recharging them with solar, since the have a little less energy in them, they will charge a little faster, maybe half a day for 4 of them.

In the end, you will probably just have to decide how much weight you can carry. And them start packing your things and try all of it on for some testing. For recharging options, you should talk to some of the stores that specialize in outfitting for far away trips. There may be some options that have not been discussed. Pick up a copy of magazines like National Geographic Explorer, and Backpacker, etc. to look through the ads, and start calling people asking for advice.
 
We use a small solar panel (5X7" or so) to keep the battery on our game feeders charged. Have been doing it for years. A small solar panel would fit nicely on the top flap of your backpack and would only weigh a few ounces. I have a 12V charger for the BP-511 battery, I got it from B&H, and it was cheap and is very light. It wouldn't take much to put the two together, and while this type of set up might take a while to charge, the 10D has such a good battery life that long charging cycles shouldn't be an issue. If you had one battery in the camera, one fully charged on standby, and a third in the charger you should be adequately covered with minimum weight.

Don't forget to post your pictures when you get back!

G'luck
BCC
 
Greg_E wrote:
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Now lets at film. A good medium format camera only needs a small
battery for the light meter and to trip the shutter, you could
easily go the entire trip with one battery.
A roll of print film, developed, costs me around $10US. Back when I was shooting transparencies I paid a lot more per roll.

A battery for the 10D can be had for less than $30. That's less than three rolls of film at a discount store. And it's smaller and lighter than three rolls of film. And it can be reused over and over (or sold).

The 10D takes about 650 shots per charge with no flash or about 500 shots when the flash is used 50% of the time. That's the equivalent of 14 - 18 rolls of 36 exp., or $140 to $180 dollars.

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bob
Latest offering - 'Dusk on the Buriganga'
http://www.pbase.com/bobtrips
Shots from a bunch of places (esp. SEA and Nepal).
Pictures for friends, not necessarily my best.

http://www.trekearth.com/members/BobTrips/photos/
My better 'attempts'.
 
Here's a portable solar charger that might work - http://21st-century-goods.com/page/21st/PROD/SPT/iSunSil

You would need to pair it with a 12 v charger for your batteries. (Taking a 12 v charger is a good idea anyway. You may well encounter a vehicle now and then.)

Remember that panels function the best in mid-day ( 10am to 2pm) and need to be pointed directly at the sun for best power production.

Strapping one on top of your pack probably won't be very functional. A shadow on any part of the array drastically decreases the performance of the entire array.

--
bob
Latest offering - 'Dusk on the Buriganga'
http://www.pbase.com/bobtrips
Shots from a bunch of places (esp. SEA and Nepal).
Pictures for friends, not necessarily my best.

http://www.trekearth.com/members/BobTrips/photos/
My better 'attempts'.
 
Some reasonable responses on battery charging/ carrying spares etc.
But what do you intend to do about storage of your images?

Assuming that you intend to shoot enough for camera battery life to be a problem, are you just taking plenty of cards, or intending to download onto a battery powered storage device? That might be another problem....
Then there's keeping everything dry enough, loads of silica, humidity etc etc.

KenC
 
Will there be enough clear sunlight in the jungle for solar to work?

I don't know, but have some doubts.

JR
 
Some reasonable responses on battery charging/ carrying spares etc.
But what do you intend to do about storage of your images?
Assuming that you intend to shoot enough for camera battery life to
be a problem, are you just taking plenty of cards, or intending to
download onto a battery powered storage device? That might be
another problem....
Then there's keeping everything dry enough, loads of silica,
humidity etc etc.
While I like portable CD burners for 'more normal' travel I think for this one I would take a couple of PHDs (portable hard drives). I've been using a 20 gig Image Bank for the last four years and like the fact that it runs off an external battery pack (6 AAs).

I'd take two PHDs (multiple copies) and run them off disposable lithiums. (I'd upsize to Cs or Ds if lithiums are available in this size.) Still going to be a lot cheaper and smaller/lighter than a bunch of film.

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bob
Latest offering - 'Dusk on the Buriganga'
http://www.pbase.com/bobtrips
Shots from a bunch of places (esp. SEA and Nepal).
Pictures for friends, not necessarily my best.

http://www.trekearth.com/members/BobTrips/photos/
My better 'attempts'.
 
Might not work.

Spares are cheap (12$): http://www.sterlingtek.com/ln03-canon-bp-511-dlc511.html , but if you charge them all before you leave, even the unused ones won't have very much (if any) power left after 3 weeks. I've got 3 spares and find that they lose a lot of power over 1 or 2 weeks... even without use.
Will there be enough clear sunlight in the jungle for solar to work?

I don't know, but have some doubts.

JR
 
That's intresting. Do you have that with the original canon once to?
Because i have only the canon once and i never have a noiticebla discharge.

Greetings,

George
Might not work.
Spares are cheap (12$):
http://www.sterlingtek.com/ln03-canon-bp-511-dlc511.html , but if
you charge them all before you leave, even the unused ones won't
have very much (if any) power left after 3 weeks. I've got 3 spares
and find that they lose a lot of power over 1 or 2 weeks... even
without use.
You can visit my webpage at http://www.ghpsite.com
 
Yes. But I havn't done any qualified testing. I find that the spares actually last considerably longer than the original Canon battery.

Your spares don't lose power over 3 weeks? Hmmm, interesting. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
That's intresting. Do you have that with the original canon once to?
 
While I can't say I've paid close attention to it, I didn't notice any significant discharging either. I have two batteries, one in the camera, the other in the bag fully charged. I seem to recall lower discharge rate being one of the advantages of Li ion. BTW, my knock-off also lasts longer than the Canon, as everyone seems to know.
That's intresting. Do you have that with the original canon once to?
 

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