Pro-1 review: A great tool

Thomas Kachadurian

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There has been much speculation around here about the Pro-1. So much so that I had formed several conclusions which were completely wrong. I have had my pro-1 for only one day, but there are many first impressions I must share.

One: This thing is tiny. It won’t fit in your pocket, but it is really small. I don’t have it any more, but it seems smaller than a G2, but with a better grip and a lens that sticks out more. If you want a small camera, this is it. Because of that, it is completely silly to try to compare the digital rebel (or any SLR) to this camera. It would be in line with trying to compare a Hummer to a Honda CRV. (“The both have four wheels and a steering wheel, Why would you want a hummer?”) I bought this for a vacation, and if it didn’t come I was going to take a 17-40f4L and a 70-200f4L with a 10D which would have given me roughly 27-300mm. For less weight than the 10D body alone I can have 28-200. Sure there are limitation, but it’s a question of convenience.

Two: The EFV is very, very usable. Sure it’s not an SLR, but have you ever looked at the ground glass on a view camera. Ever try to focus an older Hasselblad? This is easy, clear and bright. Not to mention you can get the preview right in your face without having to move your eye. If you just touch the shutter button the preview goes away. Don’t want the preview, you can turn it off.

Three: The Minolta has a better layout. Hooey. Perhaps it’s because I’m a long time Canon EOS shooter, but this camera felt exactly right straight out of the box. I never even looked at the manual and I used it all afternoon. When I finally did sit down to read the whole manual, which I did in about 40 minutes, I only found two or three things I hadn’t already figured out. The manual, by the way, is a nice little 3x5 pocket book you can easily slide into the pocket of any camera bag, or even your coat. The camera is well thought out. For example, if you have the rear display closed and are using the EVF, you can set the ISO by looking in the viewfinder or right on the top LCD panel. The very nice lens hood is made to fit reversed right over the lens for storage. Nothing bothers me more than hoods that are easy to lose.

Four: The zoom by wire is hard to get used to. Give me a break. Don’t ever buy a 1Ds. I’m still trying to get used to the odd combinations of buttons you need to push to access the menus on that camera. Sure the zoom takes a bit of practice, but it works very well, and if you move it slow it is quite sensitive. The manual focus by wire focus is pretty workable too.

Five. The finder locks up. Well, sort of. It does freeze while it locks focus, but the minute it does locks on it goes right back to the normal dynamic display. I am finding the EVF much easier and more accurate to use than the optical viewfinders on the other digital P&S cameras I have used, the G2, S30 or S400. All of those optical viewfinders are guess finders.

You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off. I think some people are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best choice.

Six. Image quality. It was a grey day here, so I wasn’t making any art, but the lens is crisp, and the images are as detailed as you could possibly want. The slight imperfections you see on the screen at 100% are impossible to find on an 8x10. To really see any noise on a 50 ISO shot you’d have to look at a 16x20 at closer than 18”.

Seven: Build quality. Many people have said that it is well made, but you don’t really get it until you hold one. It’s the one place where the digital rebel comparison is interesting, because this thing makes the rebel look like a plastic Kodak brownie. It has the jewel like build quality of the Nikon 28Ti or Contax T2 if you are familiar with those.

Summary: This is a photographers camera. Lots of capability. Great lens. I’ll be carrying happily many times when I don’t want to have bulk and weight of a bigger system. It will go on trips. It will go in backpacks. It will ride with me on my bike. I could see using it often, because it will always be at hand. Compared to the $600 I paid for the G2, this is an exceptional value.

I’ll be back from my trip in two weeks with a full field report and photos. But don’t wait. If it sounds like a camera the will suit you, you will not be disappointed.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 
Thanks for that excellent writeup, Thomas. Very encouraging. :) Of course all cameras have their limitations compared to something else, but it sounds like this one has a broad-use spectrum.

And, I kind of like the idea of getting such a wide range (28-200), fast (f2.4) L lens! That makes this camera so much more than just a G5 with an 8MP sensor! I would guess that the lens alone, if it could be bought seperately, would cost better than $600. So I agree with you that the camera is an exceptional value.

I'm certainly excited to get mine. It is on the way from B&H, and will be here Monday. :)

best wishes
Dale
There has been much speculation around here about the Pro-1. So
much so that I had formed several conclusions which were completely
wrong. I have had my pro-1 for only one day, but there are many
first impressions I must share.

One: This thing is tiny. It won’t fit in your pocket, but it is
really small. I don’t have it any more, but it seems smaller than a
G2, but with a better grip and a lens that sticks out more. If you
want a small camera, this is it. Because of that, it is completely
silly to try to compare the digital rebel (or any SLR) to this
camera. It would be in line with trying to compare a Hummer to a
Honda CRV. (“The both have four wheels and a steering wheel, Why
would you want a hummer?”) I bought this for a vacation, and if it
didn’t come I was going to take a 17-40f4L and a 70-200f4L with a
10D which would have given me roughly 27-300mm. For less weight
than the 10D body alone I can have 28-200. Sure there are
limitation, but it’s a question of convenience.

Two: The EFV is very, very usable. Sure it’s not an SLR, but have
you ever looked at the ground glass on a view camera. Ever try to
focus an older Hasselblad? This is easy, clear and bright. Not to
mention you can get the preview right in your face without having
to move your eye. If you just touch the shutter button the preview
goes away. Don’t want the preview, you can turn it off.

Three: The Minolta has a better layout. Hooey. Perhaps it’s because
I’m a long time Canon EOS shooter, but this camera felt exactly
right straight out of the box. I never even looked at the manual
and I used it all afternoon. When I finally did sit down to read
the whole manual, which I did in about 40 minutes, I only found two
or three things I hadn’t already figured out. The manual, by the
way, is a nice little 3x5 pocket book you can easily slide into the
pocket of any camera bag, or even your coat. The camera is well
thought out. For example, if you have the rear display closed and
are using the EVF, you can set the ISO by looking in the viewfinder
or right on the top LCD panel. The very nice lens hood is made to
fit reversed right over the lens for storage. Nothing bothers me
more than hoods that are easy to lose.

Four: The zoom by wire is hard to get used to. Give me a break.
Don’t ever buy a 1Ds. I’m still trying to get used to the odd
combinations of buttons you need to push to access the menus on
that camera. Sure the zoom takes a bit of practice, but it works
very well, and if you move it slow it is quite sensitive. The
manual focus by wire focus is pretty workable too.

Five. The finder locks up. Well, sort of. It does freeze while it
locks focus, but the minute it does locks on it goes right back to
the normal dynamic display. I am finding the EVF much easier and
more accurate to use than the optical viewfinders on the other
digital P&S cameras I have used, the G2, S30 or S400. All of those
optical viewfinders are guess finders.
You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the
EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off. I think some people
are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to
the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the
camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best
choice.

Six. Image quality. It was a grey day here, so I wasn’t making any
art, but the lens is crisp, and the images are as detailed as you
could possibly want. The slight imperfections you see on the screen
at 100% are impossible to find on an 8x10. To really see any noise
on a 50 ISO shot you’d have to look at a 16x20 at closer than 18”.

Seven: Build quality. Many people have said that it is well made,
but you don’t really get it until you hold one. It’s the one place
where the digital rebel comparison is interesting, because this
thing makes the rebel look like a plastic Kodak brownie. It has the
jewel like build quality of the Nikon 28Ti or Contax T2 if you are
familiar with those.

Summary: This is a photographers camera. Lots of capability. Great
lens. I’ll be carrying happily many times when I don’t want to have
bulk and weight of a bigger system. It will go on trips. It will go
in backpacks. It will ride with me on my bike. I could see using it
often, because it will always be at hand. Compared to the $600 I
paid for the G2, this is an exceptional value.

I’ll be back from my trip in two weeks with a full field report and
photos. But don’t wait. If it sounds like a camera the will suit
you, you will not be disappointed.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 
And, I kind of like the idea of getting such a wide range (28-200),
fast (f2.4) L lens! That makes this camera so much more than just
a G5 with an 8MP sensor! I would guess that the lens alone, if it
could be bought seperately, would cost better than $600. So I
agree with you that the camera is an exceptional value.

I'm certainly excited to get mine. It is on the way from B&H, and
will be here Monday. :)

best wishes
Dale
There has been much speculation around here about the Pro-1. So
much so that I had formed several conclusions which were completely
wrong. I have had my pro-1 for only one day, but there are many
first impressions I must share.

One: This thing is tiny. It won’t fit in your pocket, but it is
really small. I don’t have it any more, but it seems smaller than a
G2, but with a better grip and a lens that sticks out more. If you
want a small camera, this is it. Because of that, it is completely
silly to try to compare the digital rebel (or any SLR) to this
camera. It would be in line with trying to compare a Hummer to a
Honda CRV. (“The both have four wheels and a steering wheel, Why
would you want a hummer?”) I bought this for a vacation, and if it
didn’t come I was going to take a 17-40f4L and a 70-200f4L with a
10D which would have given me roughly 27-300mm. For less weight
than the 10D body alone I can have 28-200. Sure there are
limitation, but it’s a question of convenience.

Two: The EFV is very, very usable. Sure it’s not an SLR, but have
you ever looked at the ground glass on a view camera. Ever try to
focus an older Hasselblad? This is easy, clear and bright. Not to
mention you can get the preview right in your face without having
to move your eye. If you just touch the shutter button the preview
goes away. Don’t want the preview, you can turn it off.

Three: The Minolta has a better layout. Hooey. Perhaps it’s because
I’m a long time Canon EOS shooter, but this camera felt exactly
right straight out of the box. I never even looked at the manual
and I used it all afternoon. When I finally did sit down to read
the whole manual, which I did in about 40 minutes, I only found two
or three things I hadn’t already figured out. The manual, by the
way, is a nice little 3x5 pocket book you can easily slide into the
pocket of any camera bag, or even your coat. The camera is well
thought out. For example, if you have the rear display closed and
are using the EVF, you can set the ISO by looking in the viewfinder
or right on the top LCD panel. The very nice lens hood is made to
fit reversed right over the lens for storage. Nothing bothers me
more than hoods that are easy to lose.

Four: The zoom by wire is hard to get used to. Give me a break.
Don’t ever buy a 1Ds. I’m still trying to get used to the odd
combinations of buttons you need to push to access the menus on
that camera. Sure the zoom takes a bit of practice, but it works
very well, and if you move it slow it is quite sensitive. The
manual focus by wire focus is pretty workable too.

Five. The finder locks up. Well, sort of. It does freeze while it
locks focus, but the minute it does locks on it goes right back to
the normal dynamic display. I am finding the EVF much easier and
more accurate to use than the optical viewfinders on the other
digital P&S cameras I have used, the G2, S30 or S400. All of those
optical viewfinders are guess finders.
You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the
EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off. I think some people
are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to
the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the
camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best
choice.

Six. Image quality. It was a grey day here, so I wasn’t making any
art, but the lens is crisp, and the images are as detailed as you
could possibly want. The slight imperfections you see on the screen
at 100% are impossible to find on an 8x10. To really see any noise
on a 50 ISO shot you’d have to look at a 16x20 at closer than 18”.

Seven: Build quality. Many people have said that it is well made,
but you don’t really get it until you hold one. It’s the one place
where the digital rebel comparison is interesting, because this
thing makes the rebel look like a plastic Kodak brownie. It has the
jewel like build quality of the Nikon 28Ti or Contax T2 if you are
familiar with those.

Summary: This is a photographers camera. Lots of capability. Great
lens. I’ll be carrying happily many times when I don’t want to have
bulk and weight of a bigger system. It will go on trips. It will go
in backpacks. It will ride with me on my bike. I could see using it
often, because it will always be at hand. Compared to the $600 I
paid for the G2, this is an exceptional value.

I’ll be back from my trip in two weeks with a full field report and
photos. But don’t wait. If it sounds like a camera the will suit
you, you will not be disappointed.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 
I have several bags. The pro-1 will go bagless for me. I'm carrying it on the plane in a Delsey backpack with my laptop and other non photo toys.

Tom

--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 
There is a supplied camera bag from Canon at around $49 (Australian Dollars) - probably closer to $25 US. It completely encases the camera like the old EOS bags. Mine's black but there's a two tone version available in the US. The bag perfectly fits the camera.

Regards,

--
Marco Nero.
http://www.pbase.com/nero_design
 
Do you have a link or could you take a picture of yours?
Thanks,
Jared
There is a supplied camera bag from Canon at around $49 (Australian
Dollars) - probably closer to $25 US. It completely encases the
camera like the old EOS bags. Mine's black but there's a two tone
version available in the US. The bag perfectly fits the camera.

Regards,

--
Marco Nero.
http://www.pbase.com/nero_design
 
There has been much speculation around here about the Pro-1. So
much so that I had formed several conclusions which were completely
wrong. I have had my pro-1 for only one day, but there are many
first impressions I must share.

One: This thing is tiny. It won’t fit in your pocket, but it is
really small. I don’t have it any more, but it seems smaller than a
G2, but with a better grip and a lens that sticks out more. If you
want a small camera, this is it.
Excellent. This is quite important to me.
Because of that, it is completely
silly to try to compare the digital rebel (or any SLR) to this
camera. It would be in line with trying to compare a Hummer to a
Honda CRV. (“The both have four wheels and a steering wheel, Why
would you want a hummer?”) I bought this for a vacation, and if it
didn’t come I was going to take a 17-40f4L and a 70-200f4L with a
10D which would have given me roughly 27-300mm. For less weight
than the 10D body alone I can have 28-200. Sure there are
limitation, but it’s a question of convenience.

Two: The EFV is very, very usable. Sure it’s not an SLR, but have
you ever looked at the ground glass on a view camera. Ever try to
focus an older Hasselblad? This is easy, clear and bright. Not to
mention you can get the preview right in your face without having
to move your eye. If you just touch the shutter button the preview
goes away. Don’t want the preview, you can turn it off.
Again, great to hear. I use the LCD most of the time but usable EVF is a good thing.
Three: The Minolta has a better layout. Hooey. Perhaps it’s because
I’m a long time Canon EOS shooter, but this camera felt exactly
right straight out of the box. I never even looked at the manual
and I used it all afternoon. When I finally did sit down to read
the whole manual, which I did in about 40 minutes, I only found two
or three things I hadn’t already figured out. The manual, by the
way, is a nice little 3x5 pocket book you can easily slide into the
pocket of any camera bag, or even your coat. The camera is well
thought out. For example, if you have the rear display closed and
are using the EVF, you can set the ISO by looking in the viewfinder
or right on the top LCD panel. The very nice lens hood is made to
fit reversed right over the lens for storage. Nothing bothers me
more than hoods that are easy to lose.

Four: The zoom by wire is hard to get used to. Give me a break.
Don’t ever buy a 1Ds. I’m still trying to get used to the odd
combinations of buttons you need to push to access the menus on
that camera. Sure the zoom takes a bit of practice, but it works
very well, and if you move it slow it is quite sensitive. The
manual focus by wire focus is pretty workable too.
Nice.
Five. The finder locks up. Well, sort of. It does freeze while it
locks focus, but the minute it does locks on it goes right back to
the normal dynamic display. I am finding the EVF much easier and
more accurate to use than the optical viewfinders on the other
digital P&S cameras I have used, the G2, S30 or S400. All of those
optical viewfinders are guess finders.
It locked briefly on the G3 in some instances also.
You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the
EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off.
Wow, didn't realize that. That's great news b/c usually if you are concerned about action you will be in this mode anyway, no?
I think some people
are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to
the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the
camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best
choice.

Six. Image quality. It was a grey day here, so I wasn’t making any
art, but the lens is crisp, and the images are as detailed as you
could possibly want. The slight imperfections you see on the screen
at 100% are impossible to find on an 8x10. To really see any noise
on a 50 ISO shot you’d have to look at a 16x20 at closer than 18”.

Seven: Build quality. Many people have said that it is well made,
but you don’t really get it until you hold one. It’s the one place
where the digital rebel comparison is interesting, because this
thing makes the rebel look like a plastic Kodak brownie. It has the
jewel like build quality of the Nikon 28Ti or Contax T2 if you are
familiar with those.

Summary: This is a photographers camera. Lots of capability. Great
lens. I’ll be carrying happily many times when I don’t want to have
bulk and weight of a bigger system. It will go on trips. It will go
in backpacks. It will ride with me on my bike. I could see using it
often, because it will always be at hand. Compared to the $600 I
paid for the G2, this is an exceptional value.

I’ll be back from my trip in two weeks with a full field report and
photos. But don’t wait. If it sounds like a camera the will suit
you, you will not be disappointed.
Thanks for the comments, you are really tempting me to move from my G3.
 
Just ordered mine from B&H. Their website says that they have them in stock so with any luck, it will ship on Monday. Can't wait to get it.
I'm certainly excited to get mine. It is on the way from B&H, and
will be here Monday. :)

best wishes
Dale
 
There is a supplied camera bag from Canon at around $49 (Australian
Dollars) - probably closer to $25 US. It completely encases the
camera like the old EOS bags. Mine's black but there's a two tone
version available in the US. The bag perfectly fits the camera.

Regards,

--
Marco Nero.
http://www.pbase.com/nero_design
Hi Marco,

Do you think you could post a photo of the Canon bag here, I would love to see it. I am in the market for a bag for my Pro1. At this stage I am looking at purchasing the LowePro Digital 40AW. I like Lowepro because they have a raincoat.
 
There has been much speculation around here about the Pro-1. So
much so that I had formed several conclusions which were completely
wrong. I have had my pro-1 for only one day, but there are many
first impressions I must share.

One: This thing is tiny. It won’t fit in your pocket, but it is
really small. I don’t have it any more, but it seems smaller than a
G2, but with a better grip and a lens that sticks out more. If you
want a small camera, this is it. Because of that, it is completely
silly to try to compare the digital rebel (or any SLR) to this
camera. It would be in line with trying to compare a Hummer to a
Honda CRV. (“The both have four wheels and a steering wheel, Why
would you want a hummer?”) I bought this for a vacation, and if it
didn’t come I was going to take a 17-40f4L and a 70-200f4L with a
10D which would have given me roughly 27-300mm. For less weight
than the 10D body alone I can have 28-200. Sure there are
limitation, but it’s a question of convenience.

Two: The EFV is very, very usable. Sure it’s not an SLR, but have
you ever looked at the ground glass on a view camera. Ever try to
focus an older Hasselblad? This is easy, clear and bright. Not to
mention you can get the preview right in your face without having
to move your eye. If you just touch the shutter button the preview
goes away. Don’t want the preview, you can turn it off.

Three: The Minolta has a better layout. Hooey. Perhaps it’s because
I’m a long time Canon EOS shooter, but this camera felt exactly
right straight out of the box. I never even looked at the manual
and I used it all afternoon. When I finally did sit down to read
the whole manual, which I did in about 40 minutes, I only found two
or three things I hadn’t already figured out. The manual, by the
way, is a nice little 3x5 pocket book you can easily slide into the
pocket of any camera bag, or even your coat. The camera is well
thought out. For example, if you have the rear display closed and
are using the EVF, you can set the ISO by looking in the viewfinder
or right on the top LCD panel. The very nice lens hood is made to
fit reversed right over the lens for storage. Nothing bothers me
more than hoods that are easy to lose.

Four: The zoom by wire is hard to get used to. Give me a break.
Don’t ever buy a 1Ds. I’m still trying to get used to the odd
combinations of buttons you need to push to access the menus on
that camera. Sure the zoom takes a bit of practice, but it works
very well, and if you move it slow it is quite sensitive. The
manual focus by wire focus is pretty workable too.

Five. The finder locks up. Well, sort of. It does freeze while it
locks focus, but the minute it does locks on it goes right back to
the normal dynamic display. I am finding the EVF much easier and
more accurate to use than the optical viewfinders on the other
digital P&S cameras I have used, the G2, S30 or S400. All of those
optical viewfinders are guess finders.
You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the
EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off. I think some people
are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to
the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the
camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best
choice.

Six. Image quality. It was a grey day here, so I wasn’t making any
art, but the lens is crisp, and the images are as detailed as you
could possibly want. The slight imperfections you see on the screen
at 100% are impossible to find on an 8x10. To really see any noise
on a 50 ISO shot you’d have to look at a 16x20 at closer than 18”.

Seven: Build quality. Many people have said that it is well made,
but you don’t really get it until you hold one. It’s the one place
where the digital rebel comparison is interesting, because this
thing makes the rebel look like a plastic Kodak brownie. It has the
jewel like build quality of the Nikon 28Ti or Contax T2 if you are
familiar with those.

Summary: This is a photographers camera. Lots of capability. Great
lens. I’ll be carrying happily many times when I don’t want to have
bulk and weight of a bigger system. It will go on trips. It will go
in backpacks. It will ride with me on my bike. I could see using it
often, because it will always be at hand. Compared to the $600 I
paid for the G2, this is an exceptional value.

I’ll be back from my trip in two weeks with a full field report and
photos. But don’t wait. If it sounds like a camera the will suit
you, you will not be disappointed.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
Well said Tom,

I couldn't of said it any better myself.

I knew you guys would love the camera. It's all about knowing how to use the camera. After all it is a Professional camera. It's not made for Novices.

To get the most of this camera you need to take it out of Auto. Infact I have not taken one photo in Auto on my Pro1.

Interesting what you say about the Continous high speed mode, I have not tried that as yet. I will give it a go this afternoon, if only this rain would go away. Wouldn't it been great if canon made a waterproof housing for this camera.

I did manage to capture some great Macro Photos of butterflys this morning at the local park, well I think there great, Would love to hear what you's think of them. http://www.phillipsart.net/Art.htm
 
I did manage to capture some great Macro Photos of butterflys this
morning at the local park, well I think there great, Would love to
hear what you's think of them. http://www.phillipsart.net/Art.htm
The butterfly shots are really nice, The Pro1 has two macro modes,
did you use both modes for the two close ups? Enjoyed looking at
all your Pro1 shots.
Regards Rod
Hi Rod.

I used the Super Macro on both shots, although I could of used the normal Macro mode & got as close on most of them. I am curious to know if anyone has tried out the 58mm Canon closeup filter on there Pro1, Does it improve the macro?
 
I tried several bags and use the Tamrac 6 now for my travels near and far. It fits and protects the toy very well with the right amount of extra space. See the Pic from my German dealer. Johannes

http://www.directshopper.de/tamrac-digital-6-schwarz-5696_universaltaschen-und-koffer_p
There is a supplied camera bag from Canon at around $49 (Australian
Dollars) - probably closer to $25 US. It completely encases the
camera like the old EOS bags. Mine's black but there's a two tone
version available in the US. The bag perfectly fits the camera.

Regards,

--
Marco Nero.
http://www.pbase.com/nero_design
 
There has been much speculation around here about the Pro-1. So
much so that I had formed several conclusions which were completely
wrong. I have had my pro-1 for only one day, but there are many
first impressions I must share.

One: This thing is tiny. It won’t fit in your pocket, but it is
really small. I don’t have it any more, but it seems smaller than a
G2, but with a better grip and a lens that sticks out more. If you
want a small camera, this is it. Because of that, it is completely
silly to try to compare the digital rebel (or any SLR) to this
camera. It would be in line with trying to compare a Hummer to a
Honda CRV. (“The both have four wheels and a steering wheel, Why
would you want a hummer?”) I bought this for a vacation, and if it
didn’t come I was going to take a 17-40f4L and a 70-200f4L with a
10D which would have given me roughly 27-300mm. For less weight
than the 10D body alone I can have 28-200. Sure there are
limitation, but it’s a question of convenience.

Two: The EFV is very, very usable. Sure it’s not an SLR, but have
you ever looked at the ground glass on a view camera. Ever try to
focus an older Hasselblad? This is easy, clear and bright. Not to
mention you can get the preview right in your face without having
to move your eye. If you just touch the shutter button the preview
goes away. Don’t want the preview, you can turn it off.

Three: The Minolta has a better layout. Hooey. Perhaps it’s because
I’m a long time Canon EOS shooter, but this camera felt exactly
right straight out of the box. I never even looked at the manual
and I used it all afternoon. When I finally did sit down to read
the whole manual, which I did in about 40 minutes, I only found two
or three things I hadn’t already figured out. The manual, by the
way, is a nice little 3x5 pocket book you can easily slide into the
pocket of any camera bag, or even your coat. The camera is well
thought out. For example, if you have the rear display closed and
are using the EVF, you can set the ISO by looking in the viewfinder
or right on the top LCD panel. The very nice lens hood is made to
fit reversed right over the lens for storage. Nothing bothers me
more than hoods that are easy to lose.

Four: The zoom by wire is hard to get used to. Give me a break.
Don’t ever buy a 1Ds. I’m still trying to get used to the odd
combinations of buttons you need to push to access the menus on
that camera. Sure the zoom takes a bit of practice, but it works
very well, and if you move it slow it is quite sensitive. The
manual focus by wire focus is pretty workable too.

Five. The finder locks up. Well, sort of. It does freeze while it
locks focus, but the minute it does locks on it goes right back to
the normal dynamic display. I am finding the EVF much easier and
more accurate to use than the optical viewfinders on the other
digital P&S cameras I have used, the G2, S30 or S400. All of those
optical viewfinders are guess finders.
You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the
EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off. I think some people
are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to
the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the
camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best
choice.
Don´t know what camera you have, Thomas, but when I set mine to high-speed cont. mode EVF still freezes. No visible difference. Regards Johannes
Six. Image quality. It was a grey day here, so I wasn’t making any
art, but the lens is crisp, and the images are as detailed as you
could possibly want. The slight imperfections you see on the screen
at 100% are impossible to find on an 8x10. To really see any noise
on a 50 ISO shot you’d have to look at a 16x20 at closer than 18”.

Seven: Build quality. Many people have said that it is well made,
but you don’t really get it until you hold one. It’s the one place
where the digital rebel comparison is interesting, because this
thing makes the rebel look like a plastic Kodak brownie. It has the
jewel like build quality of the Nikon 28Ti or Contax T2 if you are
familiar with those.

Summary: This is a photographers camera. Lots of capability. Great
lens. I’ll be carrying happily many times when I don’t want to have
bulk and weight of a bigger system. It will go on trips. It will go
in backpacks. It will ride with me on my bike. I could see using it
often, because it will always be at hand. Compared to the $600 I
paid for the G2, this is an exceptional value.

I’ll be back from my trip in two weeks with a full field report and
photos. But don’t wait. If it sounds like a camera the will suit
you, you will not be disappointed.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 
You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the
EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off. I think some people
are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to
the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the
camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best
choice.
sorry, but when I set my pro1 to high-speed contius mode EVF still freezes.

with my friends pro1 it is the same!

its a great tool, but very, very slow.

greets, andreas
 
sorry, but when I set my pro1 to high-speed contius mode EVF still
freezes.

with my friends pro1 it is the same!

its a great tool, but very, very slow.

greets, andreas
It maybe that you have a bad camera, but I suspect you are not using it correctly.

First, you cannot be in the green auto mode.

Next, in single AF mode it will freeze up fo i 1/2 second, then it locks on, the viewfinder comes back and stays on while you shoot. That's the prefocus mode.

In the continuous AF mode, it also locks up of one brief second, then the viewfinder goes back to normal and it continues to focus as you move the camera anywhere. It works quite well, you just have to keep the shutter release partly depressed.

The "lock-up" Is the camera locking in the EXPOSURE setting. Try it in manual mode with the exposure wrong. The viewfinder changes to show you what your incorrect exposure will look like. That is the Freeze you are talking about.

I'll give you that this in not a EOS-1v, D, or Ds in terms of focus speed, but is that a fair comparison? It may not be the best camera for sports, but it's not made to be. I think the new IS camera is more targeted for that, and at always, a real SLR with fast glass is the best choice for action.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 
There has been much speculation around here about the Pro-1. So
much so that I had formed several conclusions which were completely
wrong. I have had my pro-1 for only one day, but there are many
first impressions I must share.

One: This thing is tiny. It won’t fit in your pocket, but it is
really small. I don’t have it any more, but it seems smaller than a
G2, but with a better grip and a lens that sticks out more. If you
want a small camera, this is it. Because of that, it is completely
silly to try to compare the digital rebel (or any SLR) to this
camera. It would be in line with trying to compare a Hummer to a
Honda CRV. (“The both have four wheels and a steering wheel, Why
would you want a hummer?”) I bought this for a vacation, and if it
didn’t come I was going to take a 17-40f4L and a 70-200f4L with a
10D which would have given me roughly 27-300mm. For less weight
than the 10D body alone I can have 28-200. Sure there are
limitation, but it’s a question of convenience.

Two: The EFV is very, very usable. Sure it’s not an SLR, but have
you ever looked at the ground glass on a view camera. Ever try to
focus an older Hasselblad? This is easy, clear and bright. Not to
mention you can get the preview right in your face without having
to move your eye. If you just touch the shutter button the preview
goes away. Don’t want the preview, you can turn it off.

Three: The Minolta has a better layout. Hooey. Perhaps it’s because
I’m a long time Canon EOS shooter, but this camera felt exactly
right straight out of the box. I never even looked at the manual
and I used it all afternoon. When I finally did sit down to read
the whole manual, which I did in about 40 minutes, I only found two
or three things I hadn’t already figured out. The manual, by the
way, is a nice little 3x5 pocket book you can easily slide into the
pocket of any camera bag, or even your coat. The camera is well
thought out. For example, if you have the rear display closed and
are using the EVF, you can set the ISO by looking in the viewfinder
or right on the top LCD panel. The very nice lens hood is made to
fit reversed right over the lens for storage. Nothing bothers me
more than hoods that are easy to lose.

Four: The zoom by wire is hard to get used to. Give me a break.
Don’t ever buy a 1Ds. I’m still trying to get used to the odd
combinations of buttons you need to push to access the menus on
that camera. Sure the zoom takes a bit of practice, but it works
very well, and if you move it slow it is quite sensitive. The
manual focus by wire focus is pretty workable too.

Five. The finder locks up. Well, sort of. It does freeze while it
locks focus, but the minute it does locks on it goes right back to
the normal dynamic display. I am finding the EVF much easier and
more accurate to use than the optical viewfinders on the other
digital P&S cameras I have used, the G2, S30 or S400. All of those
optical viewfinders are guess finders.
You can set the camera to the high speed continuous mode and the
EFV doesn’t freeze and the preview stays off. I think some people
are having problems with this camera because they are setting it to
the green auto mode, which disables many of the features of the
camera. If you want a simple camera, I’m not sure this is the best
choice.
Don´t know what camera you have, Thomas, but when I set mine to
high-speed cont. mode EVF still freezes. No visible difference.
Regards Johannes
Same here -- mine freezes too in high-speed continuous mode. This issue is the only thing keeping me from loving this camera. But the freezing causes me to miss pictures where the subject moves while the viewfinder is frozen.
Six. Image quality. It was a grey day here, so I wasn’t making any
art, but the lens is crisp, and the images are as detailed as you
could possibly want. The slight imperfections you see on the screen
at 100% are impossible to find on an 8x10. To really see any noise
on a 50 ISO shot you’d have to look at a 16x20 at closer than 18”.

Seven: Build quality. Many people have said that it is well made,
but you don’t really get it until you hold one. It’s the one place
where the digital rebel comparison is interesting, because this
thing makes the rebel look like a plastic Kodak brownie. It has the
jewel like build quality of the Nikon 28Ti or Contax T2 if you are
familiar with those.

Summary: This is a photographers camera. Lots of capability. Great
lens. I’ll be carrying happily many times when I don’t want to have
bulk and weight of a bigger system. It will go on trips. It will go
in backpacks. It will ride with me on my bike. I could see using it
often, because it will always be at hand. Compared to the $600 I
paid for the G2, this is an exceptional value.

I’ll be back from my trip in two weeks with a full field report and
photos. But don’t wait. If it sounds like a camera the will suit
you, you will not be disappointed.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 
Does the camera sit horizontally or vertically in this Tamrac Digital 6?
Thanks,
Jared
 
Hi Thomas, don´t get me wrong, but I must again contradict you:

First - I never shoot in the green automode, and this is my fourth Canon diigicam and I´m quite familiar with the program settings.

I´ve repeatedly tried the several modes in question, single focus, cont. focus, normal vs. high speed cont. mode etc., but I never see any difference in the freezing behaviour of the Pro 1. It´s always the autofocus chip that takes its time to calculate the frame caught in terms if distance. And for this little lapse of time the EVF freezes (whereby in bright light it is short vs. longer in dim light). This is what I experience. Maybe we´re talking of a different camera.

By the way, do you know how to find out the cam´s firmware. I´m asking because maybe yours seems to be already updated. Johannes
sorry, but when I set my pro1 to high-speed contius mode EVF still
freezes.

with my friends pro1 it is the same!

its a great tool, but very, very slow.

greets, andreas
It maybe that you have a bad camera, but I suspect you are not
using it correctly.

First, you cannot be in the green auto mode.
Next, in single AF mode it will freeze up fo i 1/2 second, then it
locks on, the viewfinder comes back and stays on while you shoot.
That's the prefocus mode.

In the continuous AF mode, it also locks up of one brief second,
then the viewfinder goes back to normal and it continues to focus
as you move the camera anywhere. It works quite well, you just have
to keep the shutter release partly depressed.

The "lock-up" Is the camera locking in the EXPOSURE setting. Try it
in manual mode with the exposure wrong. The viewfinder changes to
show you what your incorrect exposure will look like. That is the
Freeze you are talking about.

I'll give you that this in not a EOS-1v, D, or Ds in terms of focus
speed, but is that a fair comparison? It may not be the best camera
for sports, but it's not made to be. I think the new IS camera is
more targeted for that, and at always, a real SLR with fast glass
is the best choice for action.

Tom
--
http://www.kachadurian.com
 

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