Canon 100mm macro - fly in the rain

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Caught this guy sitting around feeling sorry for himself this rainy Sunday afternoon. This lens, Canon's 100mm 2.8 is becoming my favourite when seperated from the camera by a set of Kenko adaptors.



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The Kenko adaptors mentioned are extension tubes. They come in three sizes and when stacked together hang the lens nearly 7 cm out from the camera body. Here's a link with lots of info... http://www.toledo-bend.com/gallery/index.asp?request=ExtTube

I was nearly about to spend up on the MPE-65mm lens and luckily decided for the 100mm 2.8 plus tubes option (for the moment :).

Have a look at these little wonders...






Caught this guy sitting around feeling sorry for himself this rainy
Sunday afternoon. This lens, Canon's 100mm 2.8 is becoming my
favourite when seperated from the camera by a set of Kenko adaptors.



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Hi, Millsy -- I have the lense and love it. I'll definitely get the ring set after seeing your shots. For the fly pix, did you stack all 3 on? About how far from the fly were you? Please tell!

Amazing!!

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I was nearly about to spend up on the MPE-65mm lens and luckily
decided for the 100mm 2.8 plus tubes option (for the moment :).

Have a look at these little wonders...






Caught this guy sitting around feeling sorry for himself this rainy
Sunday afternoon. This lens, Canon's 100mm 2.8 is becoming my
favourite when seperated from the camera by a set of Kenko adaptors.



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http://www.pbase.com/millsy
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Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
 
Caught this guy sitting around feeling sorry for himself this rainy
Sunday afternoon. This lens, Canon's 100mm 2.8 is becoming my
favourite when seperated from the camera by a set of Kenko adaptors.
Thanks for the positive comments all.

The fly was taken in daylight but I supletmented the light with a 420EX speedlight hand held just off the end of the lens by an exntension lead. The extension lead is available as a Canon accessory.

I had all three kenko tubes stacked together on the 100mm lens and often do it this way for best magnification. The focus side of things is usually managed by AI servo focus although if I'm not rushing I would just manually focus. Yesterday was raining cats, dogs & flys so I had my trusty assistant (aka wife) holding the unbrella and used auto focus. Here's another altho the flower's stamens are a little fuzzed due to the breeze and no flash. I'll send the exif data tonight when I get home (Sydney time).




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Thank you for the terrific pics! I would be interested whether it is the USM or the Non-USM version of the 100mm that you have. Thank you for your answer.

Christoph
 
Love your fly photo. Really excellent.

Hopefully, I'm not about to ask a dumb question.

My understanding is that a close up filter like the 500D is basically a magnifying glass that you add to the front of your camera lens. Extension tubes magnify the image by moving the lens farther from the camera. Optically, it seems like the extension tubes should be better, because you're not putting another piece of glass in the way.

But what if my goal is to be as far away as possible from the subject (and still have the same magnification) ? Do you happen to know whether I would be better off with a close up lens or extension tubes ?

Thanks,

John

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That is an excellent question, John.

You are right that a close-up filter like the 500D is like "reading glasses"
for your lens, but as you have recognized, you're putting another piece of
glass in front of your lens, which "could" degrade the quality of your
image, and the benefit is not that great. The 500D, though, is very good
glass...I have one myself, but I rarely use it.

What it sounds like you want is "working distance". To answer your dilemma,
you'll need a longer macro lens, such as the 180mm offerings from Canon,
Sigma, and Tamron. I've used the Sigma, and its optics are excellent and it
handles very well. Your working distance with the 180mm lens will be
roughly 9 inches when you're at full 1:1 magnification. This is, as they
say, as good as it gets. You could add extension tubes to the 180, but that
would shorten your working distance. You could also add a 500D, but it
would again shorten the working distance. That's where teleconverters come
in. If you pair the Sigma 2x TC with the Sigma 180mm macro, for example,
you can either double the working distance and still get 1:1, or you could
double the magnification to 2:1 (2x) at the minimum focusing distance (about
9 inches), or something in between.

By the way, extension tubes have less and less effect with longer lenses,
because the magnification you get from tubes is directly related to the
"shortness" of the lens you pair them with. For example, if you put 50mm
worth of tubes onto a 50mm lens, you'll be adding 1x to the magnification
(because you have 50mm worth of extension on a 50mm lens). If you put those
same 50mm worth of tubes on a 100mm lens, you'll add only one-half "x" of
magnification because the tubes make up only one-half of the length of the
lens.

I hope this makes sense. I'm glad you asked this question, because I am in
the process of wrapping up a long article on insect macro photography, and I
completely neglected to mention all of this...I'll have to go and add it
now.

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Ever wondered about the MP-E lens? Read my review here:
http://www.vividlight.com/articles/2914.htm

 
Thanks again for all the encouraging comments. Frank Phillips, I'm particularly humbled to get praise from you considering your images played a large part of the inspiration I had to get into this macro tangle! Thank you. I've got the MT24 EX on order and can't wait to free up the left hand to hold the lens instead of the flash.

There's been a few questions so here goes...

Frank, yep I did crop it a little bit, maybe 15% was cut off this shot. I've attached another shot which hasn't been cropped so for comparo. Shame the closest eye was just out of focus so I originally left it on the hard drive. A bit annoying coz I preferred the composition of this one. Only other PS modifications were de-dotting the dust marks from my sensor, a little levels fix up and some unsharp. Aside from cropping that's about my PS skill in a sentence. This pic attached is original (only saved for web browsing), no crops or fiddling. Time to give the sensr a clean me thinks, but then it makes for a good watermark...

Rono & Elmo focus was on AI servo, have the exif below to confirm. I don't yet have the experience yet to have a strong preference for it or manual with the lean in tecnique. I'd say it depends on the situation at the time.

Christoph the lens is the USM type.

All the best,
Cam.

This is the exif for the original pic.
Shutter speed: 1/200 sec
Aperture: 13
Exposure mode: Av
Flash: External E-TTL High speed sync + Red eye reduction
Flash EF guide number: 2047.97
Metering mode: Partial
Drive mode: Continuous: frame 1
ISO: 100
Lens: 100.0 mm
Focal length: 100.0mm
Subject distance: 0.38 m
AF mode: AI Servo AF
Image size: 3072 x 2048
Rotation: none
Image quality: Fine
White balance: Auto
Color space: sRGB
Saturation: Normal
Sharpness: Normal
Contrast: Normal
Tone: Normal


Caught this guy sitting around feeling sorry for himself this rainy
Sunday afternoon. This lens, Canon's 100mm 2.8 is becoming my
favourite when seperated from the camera by a set of Kenko adaptors.



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http://www.pbase.com/millsy
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Great information, and easy to understand.

Let me know when you get your article finished. I have a friend who is really into macro photography and is always looking for info.

Russell
That is an excellent question, John.

You are right that a close-up filter like the 500D is like "reading
glasses"
for your lens, but as you have recognized, you're putting another
piece of
glass in front of your lens, which "could" degrade the quality of your
image, and the benefit is not that great. The 500D, though, is
very good
glass...I have one myself, but I rarely use it.

What it sounds like you want is "working distance". To answer your
dilemma,
you'll need a longer macro lens, such as the 180mm offerings from
Canon,
Sigma, and Tamron. I've used the Sigma, and its optics are
excellent and it
handles very well. Your working distance with the 180mm lens will be
roughly 9 inches when you're at full 1:1 magnification. This is,
as they
say, as good as it gets. You could add extension tubes to the 180,
but that
would shorten your working distance. You could also add a 500D,
but it
would again shorten the working distance. That's where
teleconverters come
in. If you pair the Sigma 2x TC with the Sigma 180mm macro, for
example,
you can either double the working distance and still get 1:1, or
you could
double the magnification to 2:1 (2x) at the minimum focusing
distance (about
9 inches), or something in between.

By the way, extension tubes have less and less effect with longer
lenses,
because the magnification you get from tubes is directly related to
the
"shortness" of the lens you pair them with. For example, if you
put 50mm
worth of tubes onto a 50mm lens, you'll be adding 1x to the
magnification
(because you have 50mm worth of extension on a 50mm lens). If you
put those
same 50mm worth of tubes on a 100mm lens, you'll add only one-half
"x" of
magnification because the tubes make up only one-half of the length
of the
lens.

I hope this makes sense. I'm glad you asked this question, because
I am in
the process of wrapping up a long article on insect macro
photography, and I
completely neglected to mention all of this...I'll have to go and
add it
now.

--
My Extreme Macro Bug Gallery: http://www.beautifulbugs.com

Ever wondered about the MP-E lens? Read my review here:
http://www.vividlight.com/articles/2914.htm

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Compare the two shots below and look at how dramatic the improvement is on the fly's right eye (your left)...even the magnification of the facets through the water drop are clean! This is a great example of how you can use USM very effectively without overdoing it, as many of us do on occasion.

millsy wrote:





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My Extreme Macro Bug Gallery: http://www.beautifulbugs.com

Ever wondered about the MP-E lens? Read my review here:
http://www.vividlight.com/articles/2914.htm

 

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