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I always enjoy a figure shot Mahesh..
Nice mood and environment.
Suits your choice of sepia.
Nice work.
Bruce
Nice mood and environment.
Suits your choice of sepia.
Nice work.
Bruce
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morris
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This is nice Mahesh.
Morris
Morris
Robert M28897
Senior Member
Mahesh,
I see that you are experimenting with brown toning and sepia toning, which is a lot of fun. A couple of the landscape shots you posted here recently in sepia work very well, particularly the skyline of Seattle shot. Furthermore, it's a lot easier and cleaner doing it digitally...having done some real-world brown toning and sepia toning in the darkroom, I can attest to just how smelly and messy the analog process is.
The trick with toning is to find the shade that matches the subject of the image and the mood, and I find this is actually more difficult than it may seem. The key here is evaluating the image's merits first and foremost (toning will not help a bad image), determining the impact of a toned vs untoned image, then determining what level of toning works in conveying the photographer's intent.
Here, I find the toning calls attention to itself too much, and it isn't very flattering (it's a very yellowish brown rather than sepia)...furthermore, I'm not sure it enhances the image...there are several layers in this image, and the toning takes away all the depth. You have a lovely girl, her reflection, the boots in the background and the foliage. Plus some interesting light. But it's all reduced to brown mush, though her face is pale and radiant enough to stand out regardless...and even here I suspect a tighter crop would bring out the strength of your subject and her environment more.
As always, I welcome a rebuttal or other comments if you have certain reasons for presenting the image the way you did.
Best regards,
Robert
P.S. One of the best references for toning, even though it deals in analog processes, is a book by Tim Rudman, "The Photographer's Toning Book". Really fantastic, and the author is quite a good printmaker himself...I learned, and continue to learn, a lot from him.
I see that you are experimenting with brown toning and sepia toning, which is a lot of fun. A couple of the landscape shots you posted here recently in sepia work very well, particularly the skyline of Seattle shot. Furthermore, it's a lot easier and cleaner doing it digitally...having done some real-world brown toning and sepia toning in the darkroom, I can attest to just how smelly and messy the analog process is.
The trick with toning is to find the shade that matches the subject of the image and the mood, and I find this is actually more difficult than it may seem. The key here is evaluating the image's merits first and foremost (toning will not help a bad image), determining the impact of a toned vs untoned image, then determining what level of toning works in conveying the photographer's intent.
Here, I find the toning calls attention to itself too much, and it isn't very flattering (it's a very yellowish brown rather than sepia)...furthermore, I'm not sure it enhances the image...there are several layers in this image, and the toning takes away all the depth. You have a lovely girl, her reflection, the boots in the background and the foliage. Plus some interesting light. But it's all reduced to brown mush, though her face is pale and radiant enough to stand out regardless...and even here I suspect a tighter crop would bring out the strength of your subject and her environment more.
As always, I welcome a rebuttal or other comments if you have certain reasons for presenting the image the way you did.
Best regards,
Robert
P.S. One of the best references for toning, even though it deals in analog processes, is a book by Tim Rudman, "The Photographer's Toning Book". Really fantastic, and the author is quite a good printmaker himself...I learned, and continue to learn, a lot from him.
J
jacques
Guest
Hi Mahesh,
Yes some time ago.
The sepia is not magic, converting to B/W isn't either, colour can be wonderfull but isn't the key.
The key is, let it come from your belly, your subconciousness, framed according the rules or totaly contradictionary, and I think it will speak.
jacques.
BTW IMHO you are trying to make the technical aspects the kernel, and you are certainly capable of seeing the feelings.
Yes some time ago.
The sepia is not magic, converting to B/W isn't either, colour can be wonderfull but isn't the key.
The key is, let it come from your belly, your subconciousness, framed according the rules or totaly contradictionary, and I think it will speak.
jacques.
BTW IMHO you are trying to make the technical aspects the kernel, and you are certainly capable of seeing the feelings.
Alan F
Senior Member
What to say... I almost like this image. It looks like an actual capture from the 50's that was stored improperly. I am not sure if this is the look you wanted, but to me this isn't working as well as it could have. Sorry, but... you know me.
Thanx... Alan
Life is too short not to enjoy...
Thanx... Alan
Life is too short not to enjoy...
A person in one of your pics, how could you! 
Well, I must say I like the subject and its surroundings and definitely the soft shadow. On the other hand I'm not really convinced by the crop and the too strong colour, but those are just personal feelings. Everything taken into consideration, I like the shot.
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Greg Van den Bleeken
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Well, I must say I like the subject and its surroundings and definitely the soft shadow. On the other hand I'm not really convinced by the crop and the too strong colour, but those are just personal feelings. Everything taken into consideration, I like the shot.
regards,
--
Greg Van den Bleeken
http://www.pbase.com/gbleek
http://gregvandenbleeken.instantlogic.com
Andrew Prince
Senior Member
Hi Mahesh
I feel a strong sense of a stopping of time in this image. This seems "historical" in nature. I feel that the girl has had an afterthought when completing a task and about to leave for another.
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Warm Wishes,
-Andy
I feel a strong sense of a stopping of time in this image. This seems "historical" in nature. I feel that the girl has had an afterthought when completing a task and about to leave for another.
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Warm Wishes,
-Andy
For what it's worth coming from me, this shot makes me feel uncomfortable, and not in a good way. The expression on her face is less thoughtful then worried, but the toning of the whole shot may contribute to that feel.
Instead of a puddle or waterhole, it looks like muck...
The girl herself would look good sepia toned, and I think that her 1920's Flapper style paigeboy haircut may have a lot to do with that, I think that this is darker then 'sepia' though.
If you do rework this picture, I would be interested to see how any changes alter the overall mood.
Thanks,
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Instead of a puddle or waterhole, it looks like muck...
The girl herself would look good sepia toned, and I think that her 1920's Flapper style paigeboy haircut may have a lot to do with that, I think that this is darker then 'sepia' though.
If you do rework this picture, I would be interested to see how any changes alter the overall mood.
Thanks,
--
http://www.allen3231.fotopic.net
Mark127996
Veteran Member
Not sure about the sepia, good to see something different!
Thanks for sharing!
Mark
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing!
Mark
--A person in one of your pics, how could you!
Well, I must say I like the subject and its surroundings and
definitely the soft shadow. On the other hand I'm not really
convinced by the crop and the too strong colour, but those are just
personal feelings. Everything taken into consideration, I like the
shot.
regards,
--
Greg Van den Bleeken
http://www.pbase.com/gbleek
http://gregvandenbleeken.instantlogic.com
--
Thanks!
Mark
Fuji S2 Pro - Tamron's 19-35, 90 Macro &
Nikon 24-120VR & 70-200VR, Sigma 50-500
http://www.radphotos.net/S2GAL/Page.html
Bored Stiff? See my B rated photos at
http://www.radphotos.net/Bshots/Page.html
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