Go to COSTCO folks !!! Now !!!

[Jerry-astro]

Ethan--

Thanks very much for the helpful reply. Part of the problem is that I'm unfamiliar enough with using profiles that I also used the wrong terminology in describing what I had done. I obtained the profiles from Dry Creek and actually followed their instructions in the "using Frontier/Noritsu profiles" tutorial very closely.

I think the info you had on the bottom, which indicated that the lack of an embedded profile can result in what looks like an oversaturated image was the info I was looking for. Sounds like I did the right thing and this is simply what you see within Photoshop when an image with no embedded profile is viewed. i suspected as much, but wasn't sure.

The images are at Costco now, so we'll see how they turn out. My first batch was simply awesome (and for whatever reason I didn't notice this same issue).

Thanks again for the very helpful guidance.

Jerry

In a rudimentary fashion, yes. I've been printing to at least a
couple of different photo inkjets previously and the monitor color
has been dead on relative to both printers. Thus, it's my
assumption that I'm not far off the mark there. What I'm seeing on
the images that I assigned to the profiles is much different --
basically the colors (particularly green) seem way oversaturated.
If I reduce the saturation of the image, it looks better and may
submit the prints to Costco after having done that.

If you assigned the printer profile, your images have problems.
You assign a profile when the image is tagged with a color space
you know is ncorrect. In your case, I expect you are editing in
sRGB, Adobe RGB, or another common color space. If you assign the
Costco profile, you are saying "my camera shoots in Costco 123
color space"

What you want to do instead is convert your images to the lab
profile. This changes the actual image data to compensate for how
the printer lays color down on paper, rather than simply re-tagging
the file. At this point you should save the image without an
embedded profile. Profiles add to the file size and are ignored by
the printer in any event.

If you then reopen the files without telling Photoshop what color
space they are actually in, PS guesses and assigns your default
working space. This will be a larger color space than the printer
color space. The result is that saturated colors in the file
appear hyper-saturated on screen.

If you want more information on how color spaces work, check
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_management.htm

For a detailed workflow for preparing files for Frontier and
Noritsu lab printers, read:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Frontier/using_frontier_profiles.htm

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/

 

[BillRavens]

Oh puhleeeeze....you guys bring tears to my eyes!! laughing so hard.

Seriously, I have seen more morbidly obese people with scooter
strapped to their handicap van loading multiple carts of bulk junk
food purchases at the club stores than anywhere.

I'm sure alot of them have gland problems.

Their hand gland won't stop feeding their mouth gland!

Is that your real name or are you a groupie for that guy who killed
a cop?

Huge buns in stretchy pants. I can't deal with it.

Abu Mumia

--
'He's out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond
the pale of any acceptable human conduct.'

• Apocalypse Now

--
Bill Ravens
Chalchihuitl Productions

 

[chris poblete]

I was just wondering, do you guys resize the images when printing 12x18 prints or do you just send the original image out of the camera?

--
chris poblete
riverside, ca
canon 10d owner

 

[Ed Rotberg]

And what do people use to do resizing to a larger image size? I'm thinking about using QImage's Vector algorithm for this.

= Ed =

I was just wondering, do you guys resize the images when printing
12x18 prints or do you just send the original image out of the
camera?

--
chris poblete
riverside, ca
canon 10d owner

--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

 

[Boxerdog]

You can buy a 16x20 or 18x24 frame and mat it to fit a 12x18 pict. Works out quite nicely. I cut my own mats, so the mat cost is roughly $4 and I found wood/glass frames (as shown below 18x24 frame w/12x18 pict) for $13.



--
See profile for equipment list.
Have you walked your boxer today?

 

[DerekW]

... and they're even cheaper if you order in quantity - go to http://www.whcc.com and find the real bargains. The price includes all shipping charges via UPS -- AND YOU CAN EVEN FTP your files to them! You never have to GO somewhere to drop them off or pick them up.

And print some 8x12's from your camera. Be it 10D/D60/D30. We have
even done a few from Powershot A70 (3mp). Ofcourse they need a
little bit of upsampling in PS but the prints quality is incredible
! But the most incredible is their price - $0.19 for 4x6 and $1.99
for 8x12 !!!

Yes, I know this thread has been here yesterday but I just had to
share my good experience. I haven't even gotten the profiles for
their printer yet - just shot my images in sRGB and processed them
with sRGB in Photoshop and the colors came out very very good for
an unprofiled printing.

I'm a happy camper now. Don't need on line printing services
anymore. The price is unmatched, no charge for shipping and I have
them in a few hours ! is that a good deal or what ?

David

--
DerekW - Avid wrestling photographer.

 

[DonD]

Sam's accidentally printed some 1800X1200 pixel images at 8X12 inches (Fuji Frontier 370). They look very good!

I always re-size to the desired print size @ 300 dpi for the Frontier. Using the QImage Print-to-File setting works great. I leave the smart-sharpening turned on.

Don.

= Ed =

I was just wondering, do you guys resize the images when printing
12x18 prints or do you just send the original image out of the
camera?

--
chris poblete
riverside, ca
canon 10d owner

--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

 

[Flex Diaz]

= Ed =

It's really really really really hard to find a FRAME!

I haven't found one yet!

Maybe if I go to a place that just sells frames...

----------
FLEX

--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

--
FLEX

 

[Flex Diaz]

The frames you mentioned 16x20 and 18x24 are some of the most common frames I've seen other than 11x14. I tried getting mats for these frames also to no avail.

My questions are;

Where do you buy your Mats?

What do I need to cut them Myself?

Or

Where can I order some Pre Cut?

Thanks a Lot for the Info, Appreciate it BIG TIME!

You can buy a 16x20 or 18x24 frame and mat it to fit a 12x18 pict.
Works out quite nicely. I cut my own mats, so the mat cost is
roughly $4 and I found wood/glass frames (as shown below 18x24
frame w/12x18 pict) for $13.



--
See profile for equipment list.
Have you walked your boxer today?

--
FLEX

 

[gpb11]

And print some 8x12's from your camera. Be it 10D/D60/D30. We have
even done a few from Powershot A70 (3mp). Ofcourse they need a
little bit of upsampling in PS but the prints quality is incredible
! But the most incredible is their price - $0.19 for 4x6 and $1.99
for 8x12 !!!

Yes, I know this thread has been here yesterday but I just had to
share my good experience. I haven't even gotten the profiles for
their printer yet - just shot my images in sRGB and processed them
with sRGB in Photoshop and the colors came out very very good for
an unprofiled printing.

I'm a happy camper now. Don't need on line printing services
anymore. The price is unmatched, no charge for shipping and I have
them in a few hours ! is that a good deal or what ?

David

--
DerekW - Avid wrestling photographer.

--
Any DSLR beats unexposed film.

 

[Boxerdog]

I bought a Logan 301-S. They cost approx $75. Mat costs about $10 for

enough mat to do two frames. The mat is pretty easy to cut and there are cheaper alternative cutting tools but the Logan seems to work the best.

Buying mat and having it cut by a shop runs between $15-$20 per copy. Cutting it yourself costs you approx $5 per copy. Depending on how many frames you'll be using, the Logan pays for itself quickly.

I guess we have Costco to thank for the sudden influx of 12x18 prints God bless their $2.99 prints..

My questions are;

Where do you buy your Mats?

What do I need to cut them Myself?

Or

Where can I order some Pre Cut?

Thanks a Lot for the Info, Appreciate it BIG TIME!

You can buy a 16x20 or 18x24 frame and mat it to fit a 12x18 pict.
Works out quite nicely. I cut my own mats, so the mat cost is
roughly $4 and I found wood/glass frames (as shown below 18x24
frame w/12x18 pict) for $13.



--
See profile for equipment list.
Have you walked your boxer today?

--
FLEX

--
See profile for equipment list.
Have you walked your boxer today?

 

[John Pinches]

I didn't see printer profiles. Do they have them?

John

... and they're even cheaper if you order in quantity - go to
http://www.whcc.com and find the real bargains. The price includes all
shipping charges via UPS -- AND YOU CAN EVEN FTP your files to
them! You never have to GO somewhere to drop them off or pick them
up.

--
http://www.jbp-photography.net
Equipment List In Profile

 

[Peter K Wagner]

I was curious as to why you
shot landscape in SRGB when ARGB is available. The green ganut is
so much larger. That was a criteria for my upgrade prior to the
10D coming out. SRGB can make for flat color greens.

User error.

Also, it's the lowest-common-denominator and so best suited to web posting. I hear that some browsers don't use the profile if it is embedded into JPEG files. I've also heard the most Windows machines are set up at least someone close to SRGB for their screens.

 

[mik]

I went to Costco's website to check out pricing on 18x12 prints and I don't see anything listed. Are they really just $2.99?

I see 8x10s for $2.59
and 11x14s for $8.99

I can't imagine an 18x12 could be only $2.99.

 

[Bill Bradstreet]

I went to Costco's website to check out pricing on 18x12 prints and
I don't see anything listed. Are they really just $2.99?

I see 8x10s for $2.59
and 11x14s for $8.99

I can't imagine an 18x12 could be only $2.99.

--
Regards,

Bill

http://o2bnme.fotki.com/

 

[mik]

Wow, that's amazing. I just went to Costco and dropped off a photo for a 12x18 enlargement at $2.99.

What a price!

Thanks everyone, I would have never known.

I went to Costco's website to check out pricing on 18x12 prints and
I don't see anything listed. Are they really just $2.99?

I see 8x10s for $2.59
and 11x14s for $8.99

I can't imagine an 18x12 could be only $2.99.

--
Regards,

Bill

http://o2bnme.fotki.com/

 

[carnagex2000]

For Fuji Crystal:
http://www.popphoto.com/ICC_profiles/Fuji/FujiCrystalArchive.icc

John

... and they're even cheaper if you order in quantity - go to
http://www.whcc.com and find the real bargains. The price includes all
shipping charges via UPS -- AND YOU CAN EVEN FTP your files to
them! You never have to GO somewhere to drop them off or pick them
up.

--
http://www.jbp-photography.net
Equipment List In Profile

--
Some people say I have multiple personalities, but WE don't belive
them!