Todd Meyers
Senior Member
It looks to me like it still swivels. Especially from the mock-up pictured in the French magazine. Don't worry about it.
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F828: It is official Yeah!
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Ulysses
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Rafaël Zeier
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It really doesn't matter now:
http://www.chip.de/news/c_news_10829552.html
http://www.chip.de/news/c_news_10829552.html
None of the other sites have posted, so I think we can reasonably
assume that digitalkamera was a little bit over-eager. This is
somewhat understandable, although I'm sure the other webmasters are
just a little bit annoyed about it. I would be, too.
--Yup, it seems so.
As happy i am over the available info i am fearing that they broke
a still existing NDA or it was a fault in their database
Regards,
Andreas
Ulysses
simon bennett
Senior Member
can you pleeeeease send me the page?Todd Meyers
Senior Member
I remember that this happened not too long ago, where someone posted before the NDA had expired and then after that happened, other sites started posting as well. Who knows what will happen now. I can hardly wait for some test shots, but based on the RGBe images we've seen already, I really liked them.
None of the other sites have posted, so I think we can reasonably
assume that digitalkamera was a little bit over-eager. This is
somewhat understandable, although I'm sure the other webmasters are
just a little bit annoyed about it. I would be, too.
--Yup, it seems so.
As happy i am over the available info i am fearing that they broke
a still existing NDA or it was a fault in their database
Regards,
Andreas
Ulysses
Etherwolf
Well-known member
Todd Meyers
Senior Member
Gilles-27
Well-known member
Check out this picture from chip.de:
Seems to me like we still have the swivel body, at least the rubber rails like on the 717 seem to be there.
Well for me it's like a dream, it's all I could have wanted.
Cheers SONY,
Sven
Seems to me like we still have the swivel body, at least the rubber rails like on the 717 seem to be there.
Well for me it's like a dream, it's all I could have wanted.
Cheers SONY,
Sven
simon bennett
Senior Member
(using online translator):
Munich (ben)? Sony shows at the end of of August on the international radio exhibition (IFA) in Berlin a new top model in things digital cameras. The Cyber SHOT Dsc-f828 is equipped with the again developed super HAD CCD with 8 MPixel dissolution, which catches the pictures owing to its fourth color filter as RGBE files. In the objective of the type Vario Sonnar of Carl Zeiss with its 7fold optical and the 14fachen digital zoom shot are arranged twelve lenses (three of it aspaerisch) in nine groups. By the T*-remuneration the light is to almost hit the CCD chip without disturbing reflections. The focal length from 28 to 200 millimeters (compared with small picture) as well as a macro range up to two centimeters are to be sufficient for most work areas. Ambitionierte photographers will be pleased about the separate focus and zoom shot rings. Autofocus measurement optionally by means of Joystick with "flexible Spot" Autofokus has the photographer beyond that by mini Joystick the possibility of putting the range finding of the autofocus on a freely selectable zone. Owing to the high luminous intensity from F2.0 to F2.8 photographs are possible also in difficult lighting conditions. Economical Sprinter distinguishing is itself the Dsc-f828 also by its speed: Owing to "the Imaging" processor the camera is material in less than one second ready to be launched. In addition it can note MPEG films with 640 x of 480 pixels with genuine 30 pictures per second. Besides the Dsc-f828 offers a series picture option with three pictures per second (maximally sieve in consequence). The camera is being sufficient SAM in the current consumption: A standard Akkuladung is to be sufficient for up to 480 pictures. First Sony Digicam with CompactFlash Slot beside a Slot for a MEMORY stick gives it a further for CompactFlash maps of the types to I, II and for Microdrives. The camera alternatively stores the pictures as JPEG, tiff or RAW. With the interface USB 2,0 pictures can be transferred fast to the PC. The PictBridge function permits photo pressures also without detour over the computer. To the scope of supply belong the suitable sun visor, a left-ion-Akku together with battery charger, various cables as well as software. The Cyber SHOT Dsc-f828 is available after manufacturer data starting from November at the price of "under 1.500 euro".
Munich (ben)? Sony shows at the end of of August on the international radio exhibition (IFA) in Berlin a new top model in things digital cameras. The Cyber SHOT Dsc-f828 is equipped with the again developed super HAD CCD with 8 MPixel dissolution, which catches the pictures owing to its fourth color filter as RGBE files. In the objective of the type Vario Sonnar of Carl Zeiss with its 7fold optical and the 14fachen digital zoom shot are arranged twelve lenses (three of it aspaerisch) in nine groups. By the T*-remuneration the light is to almost hit the CCD chip without disturbing reflections. The focal length from 28 to 200 millimeters (compared with small picture) as well as a macro range up to two centimeters are to be sufficient for most work areas. Ambitionierte photographers will be pleased about the separate focus and zoom shot rings. Autofocus measurement optionally by means of Joystick with "flexible Spot" Autofokus has the photographer beyond that by mini Joystick the possibility of putting the range finding of the autofocus on a freely selectable zone. Owing to the high luminous intensity from F2.0 to F2.8 photographs are possible also in difficult lighting conditions. Economical Sprinter distinguishing is itself the Dsc-f828 also by its speed: Owing to "the Imaging" processor the camera is material in less than one second ready to be launched. In addition it can note MPEG films with 640 x of 480 pixels with genuine 30 pictures per second. Besides the Dsc-f828 offers a series picture option with three pictures per second (maximally sieve in consequence). The camera is being sufficient SAM in the current consumption: A standard Akkuladung is to be sufficient for up to 480 pictures. First Sony Digicam with CompactFlash Slot beside a Slot for a MEMORY stick gives it a further for CompactFlash maps of the types to I, II and for Microdrives. The camera alternatively stores the pictures as JPEG, tiff or RAW. With the interface USB 2,0 pictures can be transferred fast to the PC. The PictBridge function permits photo pressures also without detour over the computer. To the scope of supply belong the suitable sun visor, a left-ion-Akku together with battery charger, various cables as well as software. The Cyber SHOT Dsc-f828 is available after manufacturer data starting from November at the price of "under 1.500 euro".
Rafaël Zeier
Member
an other german site:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/cm-15.08.03-000/
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/cm-15.08.03-000/
None of the other sites have posted, so I think we can reasonably
assume that digitalkamera was a little bit over-eager. This is
somewhat understandable, although I'm sure the other webmasters are
just a little bit annoyed about it. I would be, too.
--Yup, it seems so.
As happy i am over the available info i am fearing that they broke
a still existing NDA or it was a fault in their database
Regards,
Andreas
Ulysses
Thanks to rafael Zeier
IFA: Sony-Digicam mit 4 Farbfiltern und 8 Megapixel
Sonys DSC-F828 bietet neben den üblichen RGB-Filtern (rot, grün, blau) auf seinem "Real Imaging"-Prozessor einen vierten "E"-Farbfilter (Emerald = Smaragdgrün), der eine dem Auge besser angepasste Farbwiedergabe möglich machen soll.
München (ben) – Sony zeigt Ende August auf der Internationalen Funkausstellung (IFA) in Berlin ein neues Spitzenmodell in Sachen Digitalkameras. Die Cyber-Shot DSC-F828 ist mit dem neu entwickelten Super-HAD-CCD mit 8 MPixel Auflösung ausgestattet, der dank seines vierten Farbfilters die Bilder als RGBE-Dateien einfängt.
Im Objektiv vom Typ Vario-Sonnar von Carl Zeiss mit seinem 7fachen optischen und dem 14fachen digitalen Zoom sind zwölf Linsen (drei davon aspärisch) in neun Gruppen angeordnet. Durch die T*-Vergütung soll das Licht auf den CCD-Chip nahezu ohne störende Reflexionen auftreffen.
Die Brennweite von 28 bis 200 Millimeter (im Vergleich zu Kleinbild) sowie ein Makrobereich bis zwei Zentimeter sollen für die meisten Arbeitsbereiche genügen. Ambitionierte Fotografen werden sich über die getrennten Fokus- und Zoomringe freuen.
Autofokus-Messung optional mittels Joystick
Mit dem "Flexible Spot"-Autofokus hat der Fotograf darüber hinaus per Mini-Joystick die Möglichkeit, die Distanzmessung des Autofokus auf eine frei wählbare Zone zu legen. Dank der hohen Lichtstärke von F2.0 bis F2.8 sind Aufnahmen auch in schwierigen Lichtverhältnissen möglich.
Sparsamer Sprinter
Auszeichnen soll sich die DSC-F828 auch durch ihre Geschwindigkeit: Dank des "Real Imaging"-Prozessors ist die Kamera in weniger als einer Sekunde startklar. Außerdem kann sie MPEG-Filme mit 640 x 480 Pixel mit echten 30 Bildern pro Sekunde aufzeichnen. Zudem bietet die DSC-F828 eine Serienbild-Option mit drei Bildern pro Sekunde (maximal sieben in Folge). Dabei ist die Kamera genügsam im Stromverbrauch: Eine Standard-Akkuladung soll für bis zu 480 Bilder ausreichen.
Erste Sony-Digicam mit CompactFlash-Slot
Neben einem Slot für einen Memory-Stick gibt es einen weiteren für CompactFlash-Karten der Typen I, II und für Microdrives. Wahlweise speichert die Kamera die Bilder als JPEG, TIFF oder RAW. Mit der Schnittstelle USB 2.0 können Bilder schnell zum PC übertragen werden. Die PictBridge-Funktion erlaubt Foto-Drucke auch ohne Umweg über den Computer.
Zum Lieferumfang gehört die passende Sonnenblende, ein Li-Ion-Akku nebst Ladegerät, diverse Kabel sowie Software. Die Cyber-Shot DSC-F828 ist nach Hersteller-Angaben ab November zum Preis von "unter 1.500 Euro" erhältlich.
IFA: Sony-Digicam mit 4 Farbfiltern und 8 Megapixel
Sonys DSC-F828 bietet neben den üblichen RGB-Filtern (rot, grün, blau) auf seinem "Real Imaging"-Prozessor einen vierten "E"-Farbfilter (Emerald = Smaragdgrün), der eine dem Auge besser angepasste Farbwiedergabe möglich machen soll.
München (ben) – Sony zeigt Ende August auf der Internationalen Funkausstellung (IFA) in Berlin ein neues Spitzenmodell in Sachen Digitalkameras. Die Cyber-Shot DSC-F828 ist mit dem neu entwickelten Super-HAD-CCD mit 8 MPixel Auflösung ausgestattet, der dank seines vierten Farbfilters die Bilder als RGBE-Dateien einfängt.
Im Objektiv vom Typ Vario-Sonnar von Carl Zeiss mit seinem 7fachen optischen und dem 14fachen digitalen Zoom sind zwölf Linsen (drei davon aspärisch) in neun Gruppen angeordnet. Durch die T*-Vergütung soll das Licht auf den CCD-Chip nahezu ohne störende Reflexionen auftreffen.
Die Brennweite von 28 bis 200 Millimeter (im Vergleich zu Kleinbild) sowie ein Makrobereich bis zwei Zentimeter sollen für die meisten Arbeitsbereiche genügen. Ambitionierte Fotografen werden sich über die getrennten Fokus- und Zoomringe freuen.
Autofokus-Messung optional mittels Joystick
Mit dem "Flexible Spot"-Autofokus hat der Fotograf darüber hinaus per Mini-Joystick die Möglichkeit, die Distanzmessung des Autofokus auf eine frei wählbare Zone zu legen. Dank der hohen Lichtstärke von F2.0 bis F2.8 sind Aufnahmen auch in schwierigen Lichtverhältnissen möglich.
Sparsamer Sprinter
Auszeichnen soll sich die DSC-F828 auch durch ihre Geschwindigkeit: Dank des "Real Imaging"-Prozessors ist die Kamera in weniger als einer Sekunde startklar. Außerdem kann sie MPEG-Filme mit 640 x 480 Pixel mit echten 30 Bildern pro Sekunde aufzeichnen. Zudem bietet die DSC-F828 eine Serienbild-Option mit drei Bildern pro Sekunde (maximal sieben in Folge). Dabei ist die Kamera genügsam im Stromverbrauch: Eine Standard-Akkuladung soll für bis zu 480 Bilder ausreichen.
Erste Sony-Digicam mit CompactFlash-Slot
Neben einem Slot für einen Memory-Stick gibt es einen weiteren für CompactFlash-Karten der Typen I, II und für Microdrives. Wahlweise speichert die Kamera die Bilder als JPEG, TIFF oder RAW. Mit der Schnittstelle USB 2.0 können Bilder schnell zum PC übertragen werden. Die PictBridge-Funktion erlaubt Foto-Drucke auch ohne Umweg über den Computer.
Zum Lieferumfang gehört die passende Sonnenblende, ein Li-Ion-Akku nebst Ladegerät, diverse Kabel sowie Software. Die Cyber-Shot DSC-F828 ist nach Hersteller-Angaben ab November zum Preis von "unter 1.500 Euro" erhältlich.
Yeah. Especially when the Minolta still has some advantages:
1) Top speed of 1/16000s to the 828's 1/3200. Sometimes in very bright sunlight and at max aperture for shallow depth of field, you need really fast shutter speed, although not necessary up to 1/16000. Don't forget too, high-sync speed with the 3600, 5600 etc.
2) Flex focus which allows focusing on any point on the screen. Very useful for tripod work when you can't aim and refocus.
3) Wireless flash capabilities for easy, convenient, off-centre balanced fill flash.
4) Tiltable LCD and EVF. Great for macro. The Sony has swivel lens, yup, but you can't tilt it all the way 90 degrees down, no?
5) Bracketing not just of exposures, but also colour, saturation, etc.
6) Anti-Shake
7) Less intimidating look, makes it easier for candids with people at ease.
And so on. Of course the Sony has its advantages too especially that lovely carl zeiss T* lens, but not enough to make the A1 DOA yet!
1) Top speed of 1/16000s to the 828's 1/3200. Sometimes in very bright sunlight and at max aperture for shallow depth of field, you need really fast shutter speed, although not necessary up to 1/16000. Don't forget too, high-sync speed with the 3600, 5600 etc.
2) Flex focus which allows focusing on any point on the screen. Very useful for tripod work when you can't aim and refocus.
3) Wireless flash capabilities for easy, convenient, off-centre balanced fill flash.
4) Tiltable LCD and EVF. Great for macro. The Sony has swivel lens, yup, but you can't tilt it all the way 90 degrees down, no?
5) Bracketing not just of exposures, but also colour, saturation, etc.
6) Anti-Shake
7) Less intimidating look, makes it easier for candids with people at ease.
And so on. Of course the Sony has its advantages too especially that lovely carl zeiss T* lens, but not enough to make the A1 DOA yet!
Todd Meyers
Senior Member
I saved it to a PDF, but...what's the legality in sharing it?
Maybe if no one else managed to save it, I'll post it in the morning.
Todd
Maybe if no one else managed to save it, I'll post it in the morning.
Todd
Todd Meyers
Senior Member
I still think it swivels. Nothing about the design has changed the swivel, as far as I can tell. I really doubt they would change that unless it was a technical challenge, which doesn't appear to be the case. But we'll all know soon enough.
Marcus Beard
Senior Member
It will be great to record at 30fps in high res - but this is not mini-DV it is more highly compressed MPeg so will not be handycam quality.
Handycams (I have one) are also designed differently and cope with varying exposure during the clip better than still cameras with video modes.
Will be very handy though for those who only want the occasional video clip!
Handycams (I have one) are also designed differently and cope with varying exposure during the clip better than still cameras with video modes.
Will be very handy though for those who only want the occasional video clip!
l.x.
Forum Enthusiast
Another German news site has different information about pricing.
They claim that an official price has not yet been announced, but expect something around EUR 1,500 rather than 1,150 as mentioned in the first post...
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/cm-15.08.03-000/
LX+R
They claim that an official price has not yet been announced, but expect something around EUR 1,500 rather than 1,150 as mentioned in the first post...
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/cm-15.08.03-000/
LX+R
Todd Meyers
Senior Member
Nice find, Giles.
Check out this picture from chip.de:
Seems to me like we still have the swivel body, at least the rubber
rails like on the 717 seem to be there.
Well for me it's like a dream, it's all I could have wanted.
Cheers SONY,
Sven
Nikko1965
Active member
Is that a display panel underneath her opposable? I still think the flash area's a bit unsightly. Maybe next time they can get Ferrari to design the body rather than Skoda.
Check out this picture from chip.de:
Seems to me like we still have the swivel body, at least the rubber
rails like on the 717 seem to be there.
Well for me it's like a dream, it's all I could have wanted.
Cheers SONY,
Sven
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