Yet another SLR with an orientation sensor....

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So now we have the 10D, the Kodak 14n and the Nikon D2H that have orientation sensors (i.e., the camera stores info about whether the image was shot vertically or horizontally and the image is automatically rotated in processing).

Why do I care? Because I have a $8000 1Ds which does NOT have this feature. As everyone knows, it's incredibly annoying to have to manually rotate thousands of images.

Months ago on this forum, I wrote a message asking if Canon could incorporate such a feature via a firmware upgrade rather than hardware in a new camera. It seems to me to be very simple for Canon to upgrade the firmware to tell the camera: "When the vertical shutter released is pressed, store EXIF data indicating that the image be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise." I even emailed Canon about this and got the standard "we have no such firmware upgrade planned at this time."

So: do any of you software types know of a reason why this simple upgrade could not be implemented? Or is it just apathy on the part of Canon? And am I the only one itching to have this in the 1Ds?
 
Because, very likely, both shutter buttons are multiplex'ed in on the same interrupt. So the processor has no idea which shutter was pressed. Probably also the same for a cable release. If it has a separate dedicated interrupt line, then it might be possible, but I doubt that's the case.

Excal
So now we have the 10D, the Kodak 14n and the Nikon D2H that have
orientation sensors (i.e., the camera stores info about whether the
image was shot vertically or horizontally and the image is
automatically rotated in processing).

Why do I care? Because I have a $8000 1Ds which does NOT have this
feature. As everyone knows, it's incredibly annoying to have to
manually rotate thousands of images.

Months ago on this forum, I wrote a message asking if Canon could
incorporate such a feature via a firmware upgrade rather than
hardware in a new camera. It seems to me to be very simple for
Canon to upgrade the firmware to tell the camera: "When the
vertical shutter released is pressed, store EXIF data indicating
that the image be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise." I even
emailed Canon about this and got the standard "we have no such
firmware upgrade planned at this time."

So: do any of you software types know of a reason why this simple
upgrade could not be implemented? Or is it just apathy on the part
of Canon? And am I the only one itching to have this in the 1Ds?
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Excal
 
Since the 1D/1Ds does not have the hardware to detect camera orientation, how could Canon implement this feature via firmware alone ? Flagging the shutter button would not be a good solution as many folks prefer to shoot vertical using the standard button.

I agree it's a shame the sensor was never implemented in the 1D/1Ds body.
So now we have the 10D, the Kodak 14n and the Nikon D2H that have
orientation sensors (i.e., the camera stores info about whether the
image was shot vertically or horizontally and the image is
automatically rotated in processing).

Why do I care? Because I have a $8000 1Ds which does NOT have this
feature. As everyone knows, it's incredibly annoying to have to
manually rotate thousands of images.

Months ago on this forum, I wrote a message asking if Canon could
incorporate such a feature via a firmware upgrade rather than
hardware in a new camera. It seems to me to be very simple for
Canon to upgrade the firmware to tell the camera: "When the
vertical shutter released is pressed, store EXIF data indicating
that the image be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise." I even
emailed Canon about this and got the standard "we have no such
firmware upgrade planned at this time."

So: do any of you software types know of a reason why this simple
upgrade could not be implemented? Or is it just apathy on the part
of Canon? And am I the only one itching to have this in the 1Ds?
 
While I agree that such a feature is missing from a $8000 camera, and while I miss magnify playback on my (then) $4000 1D camera, we both must admit that we made our respective purchases knowing that they lacked such features (I presume you knew that). Canon would do excellent to provide such an upgrade, but as long as the camera operates as advertised (sans auto-rotate) you can expect nothing more from them. I presume a major component of their business strategy is to provide the new features in the new models, not continually update the old ones. They would be truly exceptional if they did the latter.

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My lowly Kodak DC260 had this ability 5 years ago! I felt this way when the D30 first came out. How could a crappy $400 point and shoot have this when my new $2000 Canon SLR didn't???? Then I got the D60 and it still didn't have it. Now I have a 1Ds and IT doesn't have this, and the files are huge causing rotation to take even longer.... Oh well, maybe the next generation camera?

Guy
So now we have the 10D, the Kodak 14n and the Nikon D2H that have
orientation sensors (i.e., the camera stores info about whether the
image was shot vertically or horizontally and the image is
automatically rotated in processing).

Why do I care? Because I have a $8000 1Ds which does NOT have this
feature. As everyone knows, it's incredibly annoying to have to
manually rotate thousands of images.

Months ago on this forum, I wrote a message asking if Canon could
incorporate such a feature via a firmware upgrade rather than
hardware in a new camera. It seems to me to be very simple for
Canon to upgrade the firmware to tell the camera: "When the
vertical shutter released is pressed, store EXIF data indicating
that the image be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise." I even
emailed Canon about this and got the standard "we have no such
firmware upgrade planned at this time."

So: do any of you software types know of a reason why this simple
upgrade could not be implemented? Or is it just apathy on the part
of Canon? And am I the only one itching to have this in the 1Ds?
 
i have to do it manually on my 10D

since i import my raw pics directly into PS7 via a USB2 CF reader, cant be had with a slow usb 1.1 reader or the camera cluttering up my desk
 
Kodak has had it since 1997....I have it on the original camera I bought that year...$975.00, maybe worth $25.00 today!!!!
So now we have the 10D, the Kodak 14n and the Nikon D2H that have
orientation sensors (i.e., the camera stores info about whether the
image was shot vertically or horizontally and the image is
automatically rotated in processing).

Why do I care? Because I have a $8000 1Ds which does NOT have this
feature. As everyone knows, it's incredibly annoying to have to
manually rotate thousands of images.

Months ago on this forum, I wrote a message asking if Canon could
incorporate such a feature via a firmware upgrade rather than
hardware in a new camera. It seems to me to be very simple for
Canon to upgrade the firmware to tell the camera: "When the
vertical shutter released is pressed, store EXIF data indicating
that the image be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise." I even
emailed Canon about this and got the standard "we have no such
firmware upgrade planned at this time."

So: do any of you software types know of a reason why this simple
upgrade could not be implemented? Or is it just apathy on the part
of Canon? And am I the only one itching to have this in the 1Ds?
 
If you shoot enough frames, you'll change your workflow to not just import into PS 7.

Try Breezebrowser. I realize you already have a workflow that works for you, but at the rate of frames that I shoot, breezebrowser doing the rotation for me saves me hours.

Chris
i have to do it manually on my 10D

since i import my raw pics directly into PS7 via a USB2 CF reader,
cant be had with a slow usb 1.1 reader or the camera cluttering up
my desk
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Nick,
i have to do it manually on my 10D

since i import my raw pics directly into PS7 via a USB2 CF reader,
cant be had with a slow usb 1.1 reader or the camera cluttering up
my desk
I use the CF reader with the Canon software to read from the card. That software will do the rotation for you.

Mike
 
i have to do it manually on my 10D

since i import my raw pics directly into PS7 via a USB2 CF reader,
cant be had with a slow usb 1.1 reader or the camera cluttering up
my desk
I use the CF reader with the Canon software to read from the card.
That software will do the rotation for you.

Mike
nice i thought you had to have the camera attached
 
When shooting JPG, ACDSee has a useful lossless JPEG rotate feature that runs in batch mode. Very fast too as long as the images are on your HD rather than the CF card.
i have to do it manually on my 10D

since i import my raw pics directly into PS7 via a USB2 CF reader,
cant be had with a slow usb 1.1 reader or the camera cluttering up
my desk
I use the CF reader with the Canon software to read from the card.
That software will do the rotation for you.

Mike
nice i thought you had to have the camera attached
 
open file manager in PS7 from them palet well

you can then use windows keybaord shortcuts to select

such as CTRL A select all

CTRL left mouse

SHIFT left mouse

then right click on a selected item and select the rotation you want
 

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