A separate forum for infrared photos?

[Daniella68313]

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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[Steve Cavigliano]

Daniella,

I think it would cool if for no other reason than to have a central repository for all the great IR info that's now spread throughout the other forums.

You've got my vote

Steve

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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[Ulysses]

There are probably more IR photographers in the STF than in all of the other forums combined.

That's a good thing, but I doubt that it would convince Phil to open up another forum. He's usually very reluctant to that sort of thing (think Canon SLR Lens Talk and Nikon SLR Lens Talk).

Question: Any idea how much the other forums are doing IR work? If you could find support there, it might at least give you a foundation for petitioning Phil. But I think he'll take a different stance on it.

Another option might be for someone here to start up a webpage with a gallery specifically for IR work. Or setting up a sort of group pbase gallery on IR exclusively.

I hope you guys come up with some solution, either way. The IR work folks do here is beautiful.

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[Eric Lamont]

Whiler perhaps an interesting idea I am 99.9999999% sure it will never happen. Of course it's up to Phil, but I doubt he would ever create a forum for one specific type of photography. If he did, he'd then have to deal with the people crying out for a landscapes gallery, then a portraits gallery, then on and on and on.

Just my thoughts.

Eric

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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[Daniella68313]

yes sure there is, but there are so many of them in the OLY forum and also many in the Minolta forum.

there are also some people in the yahoo groups that are a bit tired of the advertizing and would love to have a forum that is better organized on infrared...probably they would join here too.

There are probably more IR photographers in the STF than in all of
the other forums combined.

That's a good thing, but I doubt that it would convince Phil to
open up another forum. He's usually very reluctant to that sort of
thing (think Canon SLR Lens Talk and Nikon SLR Lens Talk).

Question: Any idea how much the other forums are doing IR work? If
you could find support there, it might at least give you a
foundation for petitioning Phil. But I think he'll take a different
stance on it.

Another option might be for someone here to start up a webpage with
a gallery specifically for IR work. Or setting up a sort of group
pbase gallery on IR exclusively.

I hope you guys come up with some solution, either way. The IR work
folks do here is beautiful.

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Ulysses

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[Gene Miller77510]

Maybe it could be a specialized forum that would include thinks like IR photography, landscapes, panoramas, portraits, time lapse photography, macro, and so on. Just a thought. It would become a place where one could go when trying to get creative in one of the specialized areas.

Just my thoughts.

Eric

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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Hoya-red-Intensifier, Hoya_R_72.

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[Daniella68313]

there is a specific forum for gallery though...and I think that infrared photogrpahy is very different from other category of photography because it require special equipement. Where you usualy see category for landscape, nature, portrait etc..you never see any category for infrared.

For now I am wondering how many of you think it woudl be a good idea?

Just my thoughts.

Eric

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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Daniella
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Hoya-red-Intensifier, Hoya_R_72.

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[Ulysses]

You mean like the Samples & Galleries Forum? ;-)

Maybe it could be a specialized forum that would include thinks
like IR photography, landscapes, panoramas, portraits, time lapse
photography, macro, and so on. Just a thought. It would become a
place where one could go when trying to get creative in one of the
specialized areas.

e enough pictures to proof it!

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Ulysses

 

[koo22]

I think it's a great idea, and would love to see it. I have no idea what would be necessary to convince Phil, though. He seems to look upon the forum(s) as not much more than a nuisance. But I do think it's a wonderful idea. K.

For now I am wondering how many of you think it woudl be a good idea?

Just my thoughts.

Eric

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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Daniella
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[Daniella68313]

no, I mean like a infrared forum, dedicated to the technique of infrared photography..not just some display gallery.

Maybe it could be a specialized forum that would include thinks
like IR photography, landscapes, panoramas, portraits, time lapse
photography, macro, and so on. Just a thought. It would become a
place where one could go when trying to get creative in one of the
specialized areas.

e enough pictures to proof it!

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Ulysses

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[Daniella68313]

nuisance or not, the forums are what brings people here on this site and what makes the hit at dpreview mostly, I am pretty sure of that.

I think he should be proud that he has build such big community of photographers, I know I would be.

For now I am wondering how many of you think it woudl be a good idea?

Just my thoughts.

Eric

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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Daniella
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c7OOuz, Dimage-7, Tcon14tele, C210tele, Cokin-173, Grad-ND,
Hoya-red-Intensifier, Hoya_R_72.

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[Michael Jones]

Hi Daniella,

I would rather see it salt and peppered in all of the groups. It recruits people into IR that way and what I personally want for the good of the community is for camera manufacturers to have removable IR Block filters and IR capable cameras. The only motivation would be a very strong public demand.

An isolated IR group would extract many IR people from the main stream and might slow down those newcomers.

Cameras being sold at a high price as fine light gathering devices and then having major bands of light cut off on purpose makes everyone lose.

But. it would be nice to see your work more often though. Some of your photos have inspired me.

Now if Phil could call it "The National People's Infrared Movement" and we could have buttons, bumper stickers and picket signs, dues, hire a lobbyist, I might change my mind.

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

--
Daniella
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C7OO FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
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Hoya-red-Intensifier, Hoya_R_72.

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[JohnK]

what I personally want for the is for camera manufacturers to have
removable IR Block filters and IR capable cameras. The only motivation
would be a very strong public demand.

That's my agenda, too.

Cameras being sold at a high price as fine light gathering devices
and then having major bands of light cut off on purpose makes
everyone lose.

Exactly, I want a camera, not a mommy. Kodak makes DSLRs that have removeable hot mirror, you don't see them wringing their hands over what the users might take pictures of when the hot mirror is removed. I'd like to see more corporate courage from Sony on this issue.



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[Daniella68313]

Hi Daniella,

I would rather see it salt and peppered in all of the groups. It
recruits people into IR that way and what I personally want for the
good of the community is for camera manufacturers to have removable
IR Block filters and IR capable cameras. The only motivation would
be a very strong public demand.

yes I agree with that. If Sony would make it removable, then they would not be responsible for each person action no? That quite limit law suits but the thing is that you can see more skin at the beach than with the infrared!

An isolated IR group would extract many IR people from the main
stream and might slow down those newcomers.

slow down? or peak interest of other people.

Cameras being sold at a high price as fine light gathering devices
and then having major bands of light cut off on purpose makes
everyone lose.

yes I agree with that. some people went to the extend of removing the danmed thing...I was tempted to do so as well...very tempting.

Did you know that the Minolta D7 is selling for more expensive refurbished than the newer and better model of D7i ? I could have got a D7i brand new for the same price that I got the D7 but the D7i and D7hi have a strong hot mirror that produce a very strong central spot... The only explanation for this different in price is the ability of the D7 to do infrared. I wish that camera manufacturers would get the idea.

But. it would be nice to see your work more often though. Some of
your photos have inspired me.

thanks but I don,t always feel comfortable to post Minolta samples in other forums

Now if Phil could call it "The National People's Infrared Movement"
and we could have buttons, bumper stickers and picket signs, dues,
hire a lobbyist, I might change my mind.

I dont, know...everyone seem to think that it's a big deal, but what can be involved in creating a new forum? a fiew minutes? not really any cost either. just a thought

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

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Daniella
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Hoya-red-Intensifier, Hoya_R_72.

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Michael Jones
Join the Infrared Ultraviolet Photography Group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digital_IR_UV_Photography_Tech
Download McPic Photo Viewer (FREE) with IR Colorizer!:
http://www.customvb.net/sw/mcpic/mcpic200.shtml
Join the McPic User Group:
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[Ulysses]

Oh, I was just teasing Gene. His question covered the entire gamut of photographic topics, like the S&G Forum. ;-)

I still think the better way to do this would be for some good soul to set up a webpage gallery and forum designed for it.

no, I mean like a infrared forum, dedicated to the technique of
infrared photography..not just some display gallery.

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Ulysses

 

[Ulysses]

I guess that the reason you get so many thoughts on this is because the site in general and the forums in particular may not fit well into Phil's scheme for how he wants to organize things.

Still, the best suggestion here would be to send some feedback to Phil and ask him what he thinks. That's what really matters. Present your ideas to him in a logical way, visit other forums and gather some data, and then present the request. But keep in mind that in the end, it's Phil's decision.

OTOH, if you can build your own website and gallery, then you get to make the calls.

I dont, know...everyone seem to think that it's a big deal, but
what can be involved in creating a new forum? a fiew minutes? not
really any cost either. just a thought

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Ulysses

 

[Daniella68313]

I guess that the reason you get so many thoughts on this is because
the site in general and the forums in particular may not fit well
into Phil's scheme for how he wants to organize things.

Still, the best suggestion here would be to send some feedback to
Phil and ask him what he thinks.

I already did, twice, still waiting for a reply from him. I sent him a message maybe 2 months ago and never got a reply, and now couple of days ago...still waiting. I sent him the link to this thread too.

That's what really matters.

Present your ideas to him in a logical way, visit other forums and
gather some data, and then present the request. But keep in mind
that in the end, it's Phil's decision.

of course it is

OTOH, if you can build your own website and gallery, then you get
to make the calls.

I could surely put up a forum in fiew minutes but there is a hudge traffic here and a big community of photographers, and there is already an interest for infrared in many of the forums.

I dont, know...everyone seem to think that it's a big deal, but
what can be involved in creating a new forum? a fiew minutes? not
really any cost either. just a thought

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Ulysses

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[Gerrit Pang]

if this hasn't been posted yet. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digital_IR_UV_Photography_Tech/

Would it be a good idea to have a separate forum dedicated to
infrared photography on Dpreview?

I and some other people thought it would be nice to have an
infrared community where people from all kinds of cameras can share
their experience.

I was wondering what the Sony people think about it?

--
Daniella
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C7OO FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
c7OOuz, Dimage-7, Tcon14tele, C210tele, Cokin-173, Grad-ND,
Hoya-red-Intensifier, Hoya_R_72.

 

[MikeMazz]

Here's another one..

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/43
Mike

 

[koo22]

I sympathize with you.......I don't understand why Phil insists on sending him emails ONLY through the feedback forum, and then doesn't reply to them. And then in desperation, someone tries posting in the forums, and they get yelled at.

Anyway, I would much prefer to see a separate IR forum right here on dpreview. There are enough "other" places to go, and I think most people here come here to discuss photography more than anywhere else. How about we all send Phil a request......he'll have to reply to some*one..........right? K.

I guess that the reason you get so many thoughts on this is because
the site in general and the forums in particular may not fit well
into Phil's scheme for how he wants to organize things.

Still, the best suggestion here would be to send some feedback to
Phil and ask him what he thinks.

I already did, twice, still waiting for a reply from him. I sent
him a message maybe 2 months ago and never got a reply, and now
couple of days ago...still waiting. I sent him the link to this
thread too.

That's what really matters.

Present your ideas to him in a logical way, visit other forums and
gather some data, and then present the request. But keep in mind
that in the end, it's Phil's decision.

of course it is

OTOH, if you can build your own website and gallery, then you get
to make the calls.

I could surely put up a forum in fiew minutes but there is a hudge
traffic here and a big community of photographers, and there is
already an interest for infrared in many of the forums.

I dont, know...everyone seem to think that it's a big deal, but
what can be involved in creating a new forum? a fiew minutes? not
really any cost either. just a thought

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Ulysses

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