Q. for Neil A.V. & others - lense hood revisited

[janus75060]

Neil,

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[janus75060]

Hi, there.

I need clarification on lense hood issues. I was going to get a hood for my 602 while I'm ordering some other accessories. Reading the FAQ the wide angle hood was suggested. However, during my reading on some photo book, it's mentioned that wide angle hood may become useless if not used within its respective focal length (on the lense). That is, if zoom is used well past the range of the wide angle hood, the hood becomes essentially useless.

Is that so? If that's true, then should I get the one that's multi-angle hood, such as Hoya's or Hama's?

From reading past posts, I reckon Neil AV and Mike Bee are two who use the straight metal hood. What's your experience with your hood as far as wide and tele zoom usage is concern? Neil, what do you mean by 28mm of the 55mm metal hood? Where can I find it online? I don't have easy access to local camera shops other than Ritz/Wolf, which, from the 2-3 stores I visited don't have "used" box around.

Thanks in advance all.

p.s. I've read past posts with Hood titles, recent til 2001. Most of them concern about the vignetting issue. Most mentioned the wide angle hood and the ones Neil and Mike use don't cause vignetting, but that's not my question not necessarily about the vignetting issue.

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[DomT]

janus75060 wrote:
Hi, there.
I need clarification on lense hood issues. I was going to get a
hood for my 602 while I'm ordering some other accessories. Reading
the FAQ the wide angle hood was suggested. However, during my
reading on some photo book, it's mentioned that wide angle hood may
become useless if not used within its respective focal length (on
the lense). That is, if zoom is used well past the range of the
wide angle hood, the hood becomes essentially useless.
Is that so? If that's true, then should I get the one that's
multi-angle hood, such as Hoya's or Hama's?
From reading past posts, I reckon Neil AV and Mike Bee are two
who use the straight metal hood. What's your experience with your
hood as far as wide and tele zoom usage is concern? Neil, what do
you mean by 28mm of the 55mm metal hood? Where can I find it
online? I don't have easy access to local camera shops other than
Ritz/Wolf, which, from the 2-3 stores I visited don't have "used"
box around.
p.s. I've read past posts with Hood titles, recent til 2001. Most
of them concern about the vignetting issue. Most mentioned the wide
angle hood and the ones Neil and Mike use don't cause vignetting,
but that's not my question not necessarily about the vignetting
issue.

Since the idea of a hood is to keep extraneous light off the front glass, I cannot see what effect zooming would have, other than vignetting.

There is no point having a hood wider than necessary to prevent vignetting at any particular zoom setting you wish to use, so your article may be suggesting this as a wider hood is less likely to prevent side-light effects.

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[janus75060]

janus75060 wrote:
Hi, there.
I need clarification on lense hood issues. I was going to get a
hood for my 602 while I'm ordering some other accessories. Reading
the FAQ the wide angle hood was suggested. However, during my
reading on some photo book, it's mentioned that wide angle hood may
become useless if not used within its respective focal length (on
the lense). That is, if zoom is used well past the range of the
wide angle hood, the hood becomes essentially useless.
Is that so? If that's true, then should I get the one that's
multi-angle hood, such as Hoya's or Hama's?
From reading past posts, I reckon Neil AV and Mike Bee are two
who use the straight metal hood. What's your experience with your
hood as far as wide and tele zoom usage is concern? Neil, what do
you mean by 28mm of the 55mm metal hood? Where can I find it
online? I don't have easy access to local camera shops other than
Ritz/Wolf, which, from the 2-3 stores I visited don't have "used"
box around.
p.s. I've read past posts with Hood titles, recent til 2001. Most
of them concern about the vignetting issue. Most mentioned the wide
angle hood and the ones Neil and Mike use don't cause vignetting,
but that's not my question not necessarily about the vignetting
issue.

Since the idea of a hood is to keep extraneous light off the front
glass, I cannot see what effect zooming would have, other than
vignetting.
There is no point having a hood wider than necessary to prevent
vignetting at any particular zoom setting you wish to use, so your
article may be suggesting this as a wider hood is less likely to
prevent side-light effects.

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DomT NZKiwi

DomT,

I think it might have make a difference with both ends of the zoom, wide and tele. Isn't that whay they make variety of hood? That is, wide, normal and tele, or any difference size in width and length? If it doesn't have anything with the focal length of the lense then they would have only one size fits all hood?

I'm just a newbie who want to understand how this thing works. Thanks for helping.

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[VBall]

sorry to interrupt your thread but I was curious about len hoods as well. Just wondering if anyone was able to purchase one for the 602 other than just the rubber ones?

Jimmy

janus75060 wrote:
Hi, there.
I need clarification on lense hood issues. I was going to get a
hood for my 602 while I'm ordering some other accessories. Reading
the FAQ the wide angle hood was suggested. However, during my
reading on some photo book, it's mentioned that wide angle hood may
become useless if not used within its respective focal length (on
the lense). That is, if zoom is used well past the range of the
wide angle hood, the hood becomes essentially useless.
Is that so? If that's true, then should I get the one that's
multi-angle hood, such as Hoya's or Hama's?
From reading past posts, I reckon Neil AV and Mike Bee are two
who use the straight metal hood. What's your experience with your
hood as far as wide and tele zoom usage is concern? Neil, what do
you mean by 28mm of the 55mm metal hood? Where can I find it
online? I don't have easy access to local camera shops other than
Ritz/Wolf, which, from the 2-3 stores I visited don't have "used"
box around.
p.s. I've read past posts with Hood titles, recent til 2001. Most
of them concern about the vignetting issue. Most mentioned the wide
angle hood and the ones Neil and Mike use don't cause vignetting,
but that's not my question not necessarily about the vignetting
issue.

Since the idea of a hood is to keep extraneous light off the front
glass, I cannot see what effect zooming would have, other than
vignetting.
There is no point having a hood wider than necessary to prevent
vignetting at any particular zoom setting you wish to use, so your
article may be suggesting this as a wider hood is less likely to
prevent side-light effects.

--
DomT NZKiwi

DomT,
I think it might have make a difference with both ends of the zoom,
wide and tele. Isn't that whay they make variety of hood? That is,
wide, normal and tele, or any difference size in width and length?
If it doesn't have anything with the focal length of the lense then
they would have only one size fits all hood?
I'm just a newbie who want to understand how this thing works.
Thanks for helping.

--
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http://www.pbase.com/janus75060
Visit the unofficial S602 FAQ site:
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php

 

[janus75060]

VBall,

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get them in used box at camera store for cheap.

Jimmy

janus75060 wrote:
Hi, there.
I need clarification on lense hood issues. I was going to get a
hood for my 602 while I'm ordering some other accessories. Reading
the FAQ the wide angle hood was suggested. However, during my
reading on some photo book, it's mentioned that wide angle hood may
become useless if not used within its respective focal length (on
the lense). That is, if zoom is used well past the range of the
wide angle hood, the hood becomes essentially useless.
Is that so? If that's true, then should I get the one that's
multi-angle hood, such as Hoya's or Hama's?
From reading past posts, I reckon Neil AV and Mike Bee are two
who use the straight metal hood. What's your experience with your
hood as far as wide and tele zoom usage is concern? Neil, what do
you mean by 28mm of the 55mm metal hood? Where can I find it
online? I don't have easy access to local camera shops other than
Ritz/Wolf, which, from the 2-3 stores I visited don't have "used"
box around.
p.s. I've read past posts with Hood titles, recent til 2001. Most
of them concern about the vignetting issue. Most mentioned the wide
angle hood and the ones Neil and Mike use don't cause vignetting,
but that's not my question not necessarily about the vignetting
issue.

Since the idea of a hood is to keep extraneous light off the front
glass, I cannot see what effect zooming would have, other than
vignetting.
There is no point having a hood wider than necessary to prevent
vignetting at any particular zoom setting you wish to use, so your
article may be suggesting this as a wider hood is less likely to
prevent side-light effects.

--
DomT NZKiwi

DomT,
I think it might have make a difference with both ends of the zoom,
wide and tele. Isn't that whay they make variety of hood? That is,
wide, normal and tele, or any difference size in width and length?
If it doesn't have anything with the focal length of the lense then
they would have only one size fits all hood?
I'm just a newbie who want to understand how this thing works.
Thanks for helping.

--
FP 2600, S602.
http://www.pbase.com/janus75060
Visit the unofficial S602 FAQ site:
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php

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[rob scrimgeour]

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2 lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

 

[VBall]

Great... thanks to the both of you. I went to one store and they couldn't recommend anything. I'll try another store. I just don't feel that the rubber ones extend long enough to block out enough light. Thanks! Atleast I know there is something out there that can help. If you have a pic of your hood(or anyone else) can you post it? thanks again.

Jimmy

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there
was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2
lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the
wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right
on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide
angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look
through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera
stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is
that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube
you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get
vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

 

[Neil A. Viglione]

I use two metal hoods. One is a straight screw on hood that is barely wider then the lens so the angle is controlled by the length of this hood and if this type of hood is to be used with a filter behind it you would get one for a 28mm lens in 35mm SLR terms or you will get some vignetting or underexposure at the edges. I also use a rectangular metal hood that clamps on with a set screw and while this hood does not cause any vignetting it does interfere at times with the external focus sensor if not aligned properly, this is the first metal hood that I puchased and has served me well for thirty years while all the rubber ones have long since died. Most Zoom lenses that I have purchased for my Slr's came with a straight hood built in so I am just used to them I guess.

NeilV

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there
was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2
lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the
wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right
on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide
angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look
through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera
stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is
that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube
you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get
vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

 

[Doug Kerr]

If you have zoomed to a long focal length, you have the opportunity to block sunlight when the sun is relatively close to the axis if you have a "telephoto" hood. A "wide-angle" hood doesn't let yopu take advantage of that situation.

Except for that, the wide-angle hood should do as well as the "telephoto" hood regardless of focal length.

Doug Kerr

 

[janus75060]

Thanks, ROb.

How much did you pay for yours? I've had difficulty finding camera stores that have old bins., thus want to find one online.

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there
was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2
lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the
wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right
on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide
angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look
through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera
stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is
that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube
you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get
vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

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[janus75060]

Thanks, Doug.
That makes sense. What do you use?

If you have zoomed to a long focal length, you have the opportunity
to block sunlight when the sun is relatively close to the axis if
you have a "telephoto" hood. A "wide-angle" hood doesn't let yopu
take advantage of that situation.

Except for that, the wide-angle hood should do as well as the
"telephoto" hood regardless of focal length.

Doug Kerr

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[janus75060]

This is what Mike Bee's have (hope he doesn't mind I link to his photos):





I don't think that Neil ever posted photo of his.
Rob, could you post yours?

Great... thanks to the both of you. I went to one store and they
couldn't recommend anything. I'll try another store. I just don't
feel that the rubber ones extend long enough to block out enough
light. Thanks! Atleast I know there is something out there that
can help. If you have a pic of your hood(or anyone else) can you
post it? thanks again.

Jimmy

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[janus75060]

NeilV,

When you said, "one for a 28mm lens in 35mm SLR terms" do you mean the Wide Angle Metal Hood?
Could you post the picture for yours?
Thanks.

NeilV

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there
was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2
lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the
wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right
on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide
angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look
through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera
stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is
that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube
you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get
vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

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[Neil A. Viglione]

Since Wide Angle can mean a range of specifications so I was trying to be as specific as possible. A hood rated for up to a 35mm wide angle lens will not be wide enough if you put a filter behind it on the S602 while one rated for at 28mm wide angle will be. Both are considered to be wide angle hoods just as 12 oz and 14 oz hammers are considered to be finish work hammers but they are not the same.

I do not have a gallery to post to at this time but may in the future. My current finances dictate that it would have to be a free one so it may be a while before this happens, unless you know of a service that still is free.

NeilV

When you said, "one for a 28mm lens in 35mm SLR terms" do you mean
the Wide Angle Metal Hood?
Could you post the picture for yours?
Thanks.

NeilV

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there
was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2
lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the
wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right
on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide
angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look
through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera
stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is
that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube
you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get
vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

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[janus75060]

Neil,

I'm still learning on the photography and its terminologes. Thank you for the more detail description. As far as free photo hosting, one that I know of is webshots.com. Their free account limit one to 10 albums with 24 photo each.

I do not have a gallery to post to at this time but may in the
future. My current finances dictate that it would have to be a
free one so it may be a while before this happens, unless you know
of a service that still is free.

NeilV

When you said, "one for a 28mm lens in 35mm SLR terms" do you mean
the Wide Angle Metal Hood?
Could you post the picture for yours?
Thanks.

NeilV

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there
was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2
lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the
wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right
on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide
angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look
through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera
stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is
that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube
you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get
vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

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[janus75060]

Can you use lense cap with the metal hood?
Thanks.

I do not have a gallery to post to at this time but may in the
future. My current finances dictate that it would have to be a
free one so it may be a while before this happens, unless you know
of a service that still is free.

NeilV

When you said, "one for a 28mm lens in 35mm SLR terms" do you mean
the Wide Angle Metal Hood?
Could you post the picture for yours?
Thanks.

NeilV

Neil A. V. and Mike Bee used a metal one without vignetting. Need
to ask them for specifics. I just know that they managed to get
them in used box at camera store for cheap.

I went to my local used camera stores and looked to see what there
was. I ended up buying a metal lens hood for an Olympus 35mm f/2
lens. It is a wide angle lens hood, so it will not vignette at the
wide zoom setting. It has a 55mm filter thread, so it mounts right
on my filters. (I use the Fuji adapter tube that came with my wide
angle add-on lens.)

I would suggest the you drop by your local camera store and look
through the bin of used parts, if they have one. Most used camera
stores do have a junk bin or a lens hood bin. See what there is
that fits you filters (52mm or 55mm depending on what adapter tube
you bought) and try it out.

Remember that you will need a wide angle hood, or else you will get
vignetting at the wide aend of your zoom.

I hope that this helps,

Rob Scrimgeour
Victoria, BC
Canada

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