I have the Trinitron that i got with the system from Dell.. believe it's the P90.. they're all sony's tho..
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Best Monitor in 19-21 inch range for photo work?
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Stefan Klein
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If you want an LCD,do a google search for EIZO CG 18.It's a new high end model with hardware calibration.
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david a rosenthal
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Apple LCDs are, in my opinion, second to none. The only problem was the price--however, thanks to some recent price cuts, that problem has been solved. I went out and bought a 23" cinema display the day that the price dropped to $2k. I have been incredibly happy with it--even though it was replacing a 21" sony F500. Apple goes to some trouble, as they explain of their site, to make sure their monitors match the sRGB color space out of the box. This is even more important if you don't plan on purchasing a color calibration device for your new monitor. In your specified size range Apple makes the 20" cinema display. The 1.6 aspect ratio is great for a Canon DSLR with a 1.5 aspect. It goes for about $1,300. Ah yes, one last thing: You need a video card with a DVI output and a $100 adaptor box from apple to use any of their fine displays with a PC (as I do.)
Hope this helps,
Dave
Hope this helps,
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Yakuza
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Ok John, you want the best? Well, you're in for a treat, it's cheap! The best monitor's made today are based on the Diamondtron design (slightly better than the Trinitron FD). If you will be working with photo's day in and day out, and are naturally concerned about ambient light, you should get the Lacie Electron Blue 19" 22". It is painted a perfect dark blue, and comes with an ambient light blocking hood.
Now, the CRT within this screen is the Mitsubishi Diamondtron. You can purchase the Mitsubishi monitor for a bit less (but no hood), and it is solid black (the dark blue is a bit better). Also, since NEC and Mitsubishi have joined forces, you can buy the same tube in an NEC. But I'd go for the Mitsubishi. Sony is overrated, and a waste of money. The pro's use Lacie Electrons.
Electron 19" 22" http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10037
Mitsubishi 19" 22" http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/home/mitsubishi_index.cfm
And, lastly, in the LCD department, the only way to go is Apple's Studio or Cinema line. If you want a 4:3 17" LCD, Apple's Studio display is the way to go. If you want a 16:10 20" LCD, Apples Cinema display is utterly astounding. Apple has no competition in the monitor market. They are vastly superior and cheaper than the competition (mind you, that's PRO LCD's, you can buy lot's of crappy LCD's for little money). If you are going to edit photo's, and you have a G4, the Studio would be a viable route. If you use a Wintel box, get a CRT.
Now, the CRT within this screen is the Mitsubishi Diamondtron. You can purchase the Mitsubishi monitor for a bit less (but no hood), and it is solid black (the dark blue is a bit better). Also, since NEC and Mitsubishi have joined forces, you can buy the same tube in an NEC. But I'd go for the Mitsubishi. Sony is overrated, and a waste of money. The pro's use Lacie Electrons.
Electron 19" 22" http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10037
Mitsubishi 19" 22" http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/home/mitsubishi_index.cfm
And, lastly, in the LCD department, the only way to go is Apple's Studio or Cinema line. If you want a 4:3 17" LCD, Apple's Studio display is the way to go. If you want a 16:10 20" LCD, Apples Cinema display is utterly astounding. Apple has no competition in the monitor market. They are vastly superior and cheaper than the competition (mind you, that's PRO LCD's, you can buy lot's of crappy LCD's for little money). If you are going to edit photo's, and you have a G4, the Studio would be a viable route. If you use a Wintel box, get a CRT.
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Carlos Santiago
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Get a Silicon Graphics 1600SW digital LCD monitor. It is not longer in production but can be found cheap in eBay. I remember when they were sold for over $2,000 and now you can get one used for about $250 and new for about $500.
dnjake
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How many of you CRT advocates have used a recent lcd? I have a good 17 inch iiyama CRT. But since I bought my NEC LCD 1830 I never use it.
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The Sony Artisan is the best choice, in my opinion, for anything less than $3200 for a Barco. Make sure that your environment for viewing prints is at the correct color temperature.
The apple cinema display is quite good but (again in my opinion) has some color issues on the several that I have tried. I know some who prefer this monitor for work up till the point when they print, at which time they use the Sony Artisan.
The apple cinema display is quite good but (again in my opinion) has some color issues on the several that I have tried. I know some who prefer this monitor for work up till the point when they print, at which time they use the Sony Artisan.
KC Chambers
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I, for one. I have access to an Apple Cinema LCD. Any run-of-the-mill CRT out there beats the pants off of it in image quaility, color rendition, Brightness, refresh rate and resolution. Sorry, look at some spec, they are not subjective. Or just use some common sense. CRT's are so much better, if they were the newest thing you guys would all be ditching your old LCD's and raving about the privilege of given up some desk space for such cutting edge performance.
I'm running in 1920x1440 32bit @ 72Hz on a 19" right now. With color brightness, saturation, and accuracy you can't touch. Sorry.
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I'm running in 1920x1440 32bit @ 72Hz on a 19" right now. With color brightness, saturation, and accuracy you can't touch. Sorry.
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Thomas K.
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hi john.
some people already said they are good. i can agree.
i do own a mitsubishi diamond plus 230 SB. same as NEC MultiSync® FE2111SB. 22inch. i've read some tests and this one was best in image quality. was about 700euro (780$). the 19inch version is the same in quality (about 400euro). it's really great in colour and sharpness.
i don't want to say it is the best one, sony's trinitron are about the same (but little more expensive) but surely it is one of the best.
my brother owns a 1300euro 18inch LCD samsung. it's even sharper but the colours are worse. usually go with an LCD, but for photo viewing take a CRT.
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some people already said they are good. i can agree.
i do own a mitsubishi diamond plus 230 SB. same as NEC MultiSync® FE2111SB. 22inch. i've read some tests and this one was best in image quality. was about 700euro (780$). the 19inch version is the same in quality (about 400euro). it's really great in colour and sharpness.
i don't want to say it is the best one, sony's trinitron are about the same (but little more expensive) but surely it is one of the best.
my brother owns a 1300euro 18inch LCD samsung. it's even sharper but the colours are worse. usually go with an LCD, but for photo viewing take a CRT.
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John Harrison82293
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I love my old 17 inch sony and I know I have had it at least 9 years. Can't kill it but its time to retire it. Space limitations may result in having to buy a 19 inch if I go CRT which is more than likely. I like the shield on the lacie since I had to cut a tree down that was giving me some shade.
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Dan Honemann
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You're neglecting the Formac studio dislpay, which is even better (IMO). It uses the same Fujitsu panel that is used in the Viewsonic VX 2000, which is just as nice (170 angle viewing; 600:1 contrast ratio; 250 ns brightness).
I've looked at both the Apple cinema display and the Viewsonic VX 2000 side by side and preferred the latter.
Dan
A month or so ago got ACD 22' (20 and 23 are too bright for my eyes) and still amaized.
Was going to buy blank DVDs and when I saw it just couldn't resist it and bought it as well : )
Photographs look as if they are printed on photopaper, detail is amaizing.
If you gonna go with LCD check display brightness params, it might not look important at first but after sitting in front of it for the whole day you'll understand. Mine is 180 cd/m2 and it is damn bright, I guess going over 200 will burn ones eyes : )
ZC
Was going to buy blank DVDs and when I saw it just couldn't resist it and bought it as well : )
Photographs look as if they are printed on photopaper, detail is amaizing.
If you gonna go with LCD check display brightness params, it might not look important at first but after sitting in front of it for the whole day you'll understand. Mine is 180 cd/m2 and it is damn bright, I guess going over 200 will burn ones eyes : )
ZC
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I just had my Viewsonic P815-4 (Professional series 21") die just past the 3 year warrenty. This cost about $1,000 - $1200 3 years ago so I was expecting it to last. I called them and they said 3-5 years is all they expect out of them. There are some other newer Viewsonics at work that are failing also. I am really dissapointed because I wanted to get a Viewsonic P90f of G90f (19" flat tube for about 250 - 300 @ Amazon) for a second PC.
I ended up going with a Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" and I do like the price and performance of Viewsonic, I don't trust their quality any more.
I ended up going with a Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" and I do like the price and performance of Viewsonic, I don't trust their quality any more.
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Manuel Is right..
I've been using one of these for a year and a half... And it's a screaming deal for $1,700 U.S. .22 Pitch.. And gorgeous Looking!
See it here... http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start ;sid=gOSe00OVhv6el30goE-U2AyFBeGGSlrdhQU=?CatalogCategoryID=O%2ekKC0%2eNkEsAAAD01IpovuhD&ProductID=bRgKC0%2eN0FgAAAD0DFxovuhG&Dept=cpu
I've been using one of these for a year and a half... And it's a screaming deal for $1,700 U.S. .22 Pitch.. And gorgeous Looking!
See it here... http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start ;sid=gOSe00OVhv6el30goE-U2AyFBeGGSlrdhQU=?CatalogCategoryID=O%2ekKC0%2eNkEsAAAD01IpovuhD&ProductID=bRgKC0%2eN0FgAAAD0DFxovuhG&Dept=cpu
dnjake
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I have been using an lcd as a professional programmer for many years
The specs that are most important to me are a flat screen and no flicker because I get eye strain. As far as accuracy goes, I don't know how you measure it. But with my crt I have to go through a bunch of adjustments to try to get straight crisp lines and those adjustments never come out perfectly.
No question that earlier generations of lcd's were severely limited on color rendition and on limited viewing angle. But with the lcd that I have been using for the last 18 months, any limitation on the color rendition is at a level that is not significant to me.
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Isaac Sibson
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That's not photo work.
Yes, but programming is a quite different kettle of fish to image editing.
You've a poor CRT then.
Maybe it isn't significant to you, but every LCD I've used lately (and that's quite a few) can't touch my Sony CRT.
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Fxxx was (and still) to expensive for me.
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