Topaz Photo Removal Tool

[tbcass]

Topaz Photo Removal tool.




Before







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Tom

 

[Zeee]

Worked well.

 

[Digital Nigel]

Worked well.

Apart from the multiple masking glitches.

 

[tbcass]

Worked well.

Apart from the multiple masking glitches.

Which are difficult to see. You view at 100% and go over the results with a fine tooth comb. You will never be satisfied with any AI removal tool because perfection is impossible. I used to clone things out but that method took longer and resulted in different types of flaws. The fact is the Topaz removal tool is far better than it was 6 months ago with Photo AI. Almost everything Photo does is better than it was with Photo AI.

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Tom

 

[Digital Nigel]

Worked well.

Apart from the multiple masking glitches.

Which are difficult to see. You view at 100% and go over the results with a fine tooth comb. You will never be satisfied with any AI removal tool because perfection is impossible.

These glitches were bad.

I used to clone things out but that method took longer and resulted in different types of flaws. The fact is the Topaz removal tool is far better than it was 6 months ago with Photo AI.

Does it do its own auto-masking, or do you have to paint it yourself?

Almost everything Photo does is better than it was with Photo AI.

Those improvements should have been added to PAI for those people (like me) who have active maintenance plans. Topaz has broken its contract with most of its customers.

Needless to say, I haven't even installed the new Topaz Photo, and won't.

 

[gscotten]

That certainly worked well enough for casual observers. However the arm of the girl in blue is missing an elbow as well as having a ding taken out of it, The shoulder, armpit, and contour of the arm are all modified, as well as most of the man behind the girl in orange is still there. All that said, the only thing that bothers me is the messed up elbow which is obvious without zooming in or comparing to the original. Maybe I am too picky, but I would mask the original photo layer to restore the original arm. Ten seconds work and it would be perfect.

 

[Digital Nigel]

That certainly worked well enough for casual observers. However the arm of the girl in blue is missing an elbow as well as having a ding taken out of it, The shoulder, armpit, and contour of the arm are all modified, as well as most of the man behind the girl in orange is still there. All that said, the only thing that bothers me is the messed up elbow which is obvious without zooming in or comparing to the original. Maybe I am too picky, but I would mask the original photo layer to restore the original arm. Ten seconds work and it would be perfect.

I don't think it's only 10 seconds work in Topaz Photo ! I'm not sure that its pretty good sharpness masking is available for object removal.

Topaz Photo may indeed have improved object removal compared to Photo AI, but it's still second-rate. I actually thought Tom had posted it as an example of its weaknesses, not to show it off as being good.

 

[tbcass]

Worked well.

Apart from the multiple masking glitches.

Which are difficult to see. You view at 100% and go over the results with a fine tooth comb. You will never be satisfied with any AI removal tool because perfection is impossible.

These glitches were bad.

I used to clone things out but that method took longer and resulted in different types of flaws. The fact is the Topaz removal tool is far better than it was 6 months ago with Photo AI.

Does it do its own auto-masking, or do you have to paint it yourself?

For removal it's manual masking because the program can't ever know what I want removed. You can click on what you want removed and it will auto mask that way but I thing the results are better when doing it manually. The only flaw that mattered to me was on the first girls arm which I suspect was due to my inaccurate masking because I didn't take care.

Almost everything Photo does is better than it was with Photo AI.

Those improvements should have been added to PAI for those people (like me) who have active maintenance plans. Topaz has broken its contract with most of its customers.

Needless to say, I haven't even installed the new Topaz Photo, and won't.

I know but I am very happy with the new program. The removal in PAI was terrible often requiring multiple attempts and leaving more glitches. Super Focus is also much better.

 

[Digital Nigel]

Worked well.

Apart from the multiple masking glitches.

Which are difficult to see. You view at 100% and go over the results with a fine tooth comb. You will never be satisfied with any AI removal tool because perfection is impossible.

These glitches were bad.

I used to clone things out but that method took longer and resulted in different types of flaws. The fact is the Topaz removal tool is far better than it was 6 months ago with Photo AI.

Does it do its own auto-masking, or do you have to paint it yourself?

For removal it's manual masking because the program can't ever know what I want removed. You can click on what you want removed and it will auto mask that way but I thing the results are better when doing it manually. The only flaw that mattered to me was on the first girls arm which I suspect was due to my inaccurate masking because I didn't take care.

So why post a flawed effort? Was it to illustrate the multiple flaws, or that you didn't think they mattered?

Almost everything Photo does is better than it was with Photo AI.

Those improvements should have been added to PAI for those people (like me) who have active maintenance plans. Topaz has broken its contract with most of its customers.

Needless to say, I haven't even installed the new Topaz Photo, and won't.

I know but I am very happy with the new program. The removal in PAI was terrible often requiring multiple attempts and leaving more glitches.

Yes, I gave up on it. Even Luminar Neo did a better job!

Super Focus is also much better.

 

[tbcass]

That certainly worked well enough for casual observers. However the arm of the girl in blue is missing an elbow as well as having a ding taken out of it,

True. That is the only thing that bothers me.

The shoulder, armpit, and contour of the arm are all modified

True but not important unless you have the original to compare..

, as well as most of the man behind the girl in orange is still there.

That was my fault because I chose to not remove all the man because without seeing the original nobody would ever know.

All that said, the only thing that bothers me is the messed up elbow which is obvious without zooming in or comparing to the original. Maybe I am too picky, but I would mask the original photo layer to restore the original arm. Ten seconds work and it would be perfect.

I believe you are correct because I didn't take enough care with the masking. I spent less than a minute doing it.

 

[tbcass]

For removal it's manual masking because the program can't ever know what I want removed. You can click on what you want removed and it will auto mask that way but I thing the results are better when doing it manually. The only flaw that mattered to me was on the first girls arm which I suspect was due to my inaccurate masking because I didn't take care.

So why post a flawed effort? Was it to illustrate the multiple flaws, or that you didn't think they mattered?

Because I didn't notice the flaws until they were pointed out to me. As I get older I get less picky.

 

[tbcass]

That certainly worked well enough for casual observers. However the arm of the girl in blue is missing an elbow as well as having a ding taken out of it, The shoulder, armpit, and contour of the arm are all modified, as well as most of the man behind the girl in orange is still there. All that said, the only thing that bothers me is the messed up elbow which is obvious without zooming in or comparing to the original. Maybe I am too picky, but I would mask the original photo layer to restore the original arm. Ten seconds work and it would be perfect.

I don't think it's only 10 seconds work in Topaz Photo ! I'm not sure that its pretty good sharpness masking is available for object removal.

Topaz Photo may indeed have improved object removal compared to Photo AI, but it's still second-rate. I actually thought Tom had posted it as an example of its weaknesses, not to show it off as being good.

Which tools are better? Some of the examples I have seen with Adobe are far worse as it replaced the removed object with something else totally unrelated to the photograph. Photo AI used to do the same thing.

 

[gscotten]

That certainly worked well enough for casual observers. However the arm of the girl in blue is missing an elbow as well as having a ding taken out of it, The shoulder, armpit, and contour of the arm are all modified, as well as most of the man behind the girl in orange is still there. All that said, the only thing that bothers me is the messed up elbow which is obvious without zooming in or comparing to the original. Maybe I am too picky, but I would mask the original photo layer to restore the original arm. Ten seconds work and it would be perfect.

I don't think it's only 10 seconds work in Topaz Photo ! I'm not sure that its pretty good sharpness masking is available for object removal.

I have never used Photo. I would layer that with the original in Photoshop and mask in the original. I think 10 seconds would suffice.

 

[gscotten]

For laughs, I opened the OP's photo in LrC and clicked "Remove Distractions". It didn't do any better than his example, and did not even pick up on the man behind the girl in orange. Manual masking probably would have worked better, but I have already spent too much time on this. I do not expect AI to be perfect. All I ask is that it save me some time getting to a finished product. In the old days removing those people would have taken me a LOT of time cloning, dodging, burning. Now one click gets me close. I'll take it.

 

[tbcass]

For laughs, I opened the OP's photo in LrC and clicked "Remove Distractions". It didn't do any better than his example, and did not even pick up on the man behind the girl in orange. Manual masking probably would have worked better, but I have already spent too much time on this. I do not expect AI to be perfect. All I ask is that it save me some time getting to a finished product. In the old days removing those people would have taken me a LOT of time cloning, dodging, burning. Now one click gets me close. I'll take it.

That's my feeling. Easy and close enough.

 

[gscotten]

For laughs, I opened the OP's photo in LrC and clicked "Remove Distractions". It didn't do any better than his example, and did not even pick up on the man behind the girl in orange. Manual masking probably would have worked better, but I have already spent too much time on this. I do not expect AI to be perfect. All I ask is that it save me some time getting to a finished product. In the old days removing those people would have taken me a LOT of time cloning, dodging, burning. Now one click gets me close. I'll take it.

That's my feeling. Easy and close enough.

I'd still fix that elbow. :-D

 

[Zeee]

For laughs, I opened the OP's photo in LrC and clicked "Remove Distractions". It didn't do any better than his example, and did not even pick up on the man behind the girl in orange. Manual masking probably would have worked better, but I have already spent too much time on this. I do not expect AI to be perfect. All I ask is that it save me some time getting to a finished product. In the old days removing those people would have taken me a LOT of time cloning, dodging, burning. Now one click gets me close. I'll take it.

That's my feeling. Easy and close enough.

I'd still fix that elbow. :-D

A good idea. How many people that don't know about the process and just want to see the pics would really notice in our current 2 second attention span society?

 

[Toermalijn]

That certainly worked well enough for casual observers. However the arm of the girl in blue is missing an elbow as well as having a ding taken out of it,

True. That is the only thing that bothers me.

The shoulder, armpit, and contour of the arm are all modified

True but not important unless you have the original to compare..

, as well as most of the man behind the girl in orange is still there.

That was my fault because I chose to not remove all the man because without seeing the original nobody would ever know.

All that said, the only thing that bothers me is the messed up elbow which is obvious without zooming in or comparing to the original. Maybe I am too picky, but I would mask the original photo layer to restore the original arm. Ten seconds work and it would be perfect.

I believe you are correct because I didn't take enough care with the masking. I spent less than a minute doing it.

It shows, I can see some flaws as well.

 

[gscotten]

I'd still fix that elbow. :-D

A good idea. How many people that don't know about the process and just want to see the pics would really notice in our current 2 second attention span society?

It doesn't matter how many others. If it were mine and I was going to show it to anyone else I would HAVE to fix it if I saw it. I figure I miss enough flaws that I can't afford to not fix the ones I do see. :-D