EOS R Shutter Life

[Blastq]

I want to switch from Olympus to full frame Canon ecosystem, as a broke person looking for used ones in europe. Finally found EOS R with 50mm + 35mm f1.8 + 85mm f2.0 for 1000€. The problem is shutter count is 330.000.

My first question is can we call it a good deal? Also what can I do it with those lenses my guess is portrait and street?

Second and most important one, isn't 330.000 too high? If shutter broke down (which probably will in a few months) what will it cost me to repair?

What are your toughts, thanks in advance.

 

[Alastair Norcross]

I want to switch from Olympus to full frame Canon ecosystem, as a broke person looking for used ones in europe. Finally found EOS R with 50mm + 35mm f1.8 + 85mm f2.0 for 1000€. The problem is shutter count is 330.000.

My first question is can we call it a good deal? Also what can I do it with those lenses my guess is portrait and street?

Second and most important one, isn't 330.000 too high? If shutter broke down (which probably will in a few months) what will it cost me to repair?

What are your toughts, thanks in advance.

If those lenses are the RF 50 F1.8, RF 35 F1.8, and RF 85 F2, I'd say that 1000 Euros is a pretty good price for the bundle. Buying those three lenses used in the US would cost you anywhere from $750 to $1000. If the lenses are in decent working order, you're basically getting the camera for a couple of hundred Euros (or less). Even if the shutter does break soon, that's not a bad deal. At that point, you could either get it fixed, or get a used R8, which is a better camera.

Of those lenses, the 85 is the best. It's actually really good optically, and focuses much closer than any other 85 on the market (half life size). It's a fine portrait lens. The 35 is also very good, also close-focusing. Both the 35 and 85 have IS, which is very useful on the R, which doesn't have IBIS (or the R8, which also doesn't have IBIS). The 50 is tiny, and pretty decent for the price.

 

[bodeswell]

I want to switch from Olympus to full frame Canon ecosystem, as a broke person looking for used ones in europe. Finally found EOS R with 50mm + 35mm f1.8 + 85mm f2.0 for 1000€. The problem is shutter count is 330.000.

My first question is can we call it a good deal?

Will the seller give you any warranty or at least a couple of weeks to see if you are satisfied or else your money back? If not, I would be very careful, because money wise it is a very good deal, so it could be too good to be real.

Also what can I do it with those lenses my guess is portrait and street?

And macro, two of them are half macros, the 35 and 85. Also you could do some landscape with the 35. All of them are good lenses (assuming they are in good condition).

Second and most important one, isn't 330.000 too high?

Maybe. I think the R was rated for 200k actuations. Of course, that’s just an estimate. Sounds like it still works…

If shutter broke down (which probably will in a few months) what will it cost me to repair?

I hear it costs a few hundred dollars, but I have never done it. You could just call Canon and ask for a quote.

What are your toughts, thanks in advance.

 

[Blastq]

Sadly, seller doesn't provide any guarantee.

If the estimated shutter life is 200k, how it is 330k? Difference is more than %60. Also is the shutter count only important thing, 330k doesn't mean other parts are worn down? Seller stated didn't take any video means the sensor less stressed and used the device with cover that concludes cosmetic is pretty good. Should I check any other parts?

I send an e-mail to canon but couldn't get price the information. They said they could price it after I send the device.

 

[PicPocket]

Sadly, seller doesn't provide any guarantee.

If the estimated shutter life is 200k, how it is 330k? Difference is more than %60.

Because that is a statistical failure rate. A certain proportion of bodies will fail by that count, others will carry on and fail after. Unless canon publishes the methodology or clearly labels how the failure rates are computed, that is just a guideline. With higher and higher actuations, wear related failures will increase, so mainly the probability of failure is higher than a camera that was say at 100k count. There is no max shutter life specified

https://www.cui.com/blog/mtbf-reliability-and-life-expectancy

Also is the shutter count only important thing, 330k doesn't mean other parts are worn down?

Yes, of course. A short dip in water or exposure to prolonged humidity can kill electronics. It all depends on what state the camera is in. We talk shutters mainly because:

• mechanical wear is more prominent and predictable when compared to electronics
• there was a time when shutters did fail more predictably and needed repairs beyond their rated lifespan more often. Fortunately, today’s shutters seem a lot more robust for such worries, but at the same time stretch the life expectancy distribution over a much more wider timespan

Seller stated didn't take any video means the sensor less stressed and used the device with cover that concludes cosmetic is pretty good. Should I check any other parts?

with mirrorless cameras, the sensor is always active. But we don’t actually see sensors failing and no one talks about camera switched on time, so I am guessing that is not a factor. Look for any physical damage, sensor being clean, no obvious clusters of dead pixels, well function etc

I send an e-mail to canon but couldn't get price the information. They said they could price it after I send the device.

thats typical. you may be better served asking folks here who may have got the same body repaired

 

[drsnoopy]

What exactly are the lenses? If RF, they are the bargain in that package and the body is a bonus.

 

[boldcolors]

I want to switch from Olympus to full frame Canon ecosystem, as a broke person looking for used ones in europe. Finally found EOS R with 50mm + 35mm f1.8 + 85mm f2.0 for 1000€. The problem is shutter count is 330.000.

My first question is can we call it a good deal? Also what can I do it with those lenses my guess is portrait and street?

Second and most important one, isn't 330.000 too high? If shutter broke down (which probably will in a few months) what will it cost me to repair?

What are your toughts, thanks in advance.

Ask yourself this question - were you planning to get those lenses? If not it doesn't really matter if the price is good.

If yes, then ask yourself this question; can you afford to repair the camera when (not if) the shutter fails?

Regardless, I wouldn't start my Canon ecosystem with a model with such high shuttercount. I would find one with no more than 30-40K on the clock and get a cheap prime to start with.

 

[Blastq]

What exactly are the lenses? If RF, they are the bargain in that package and the body is a bonus.

All of them are RF lenses.

Ask yourself this question - were you planning to get those lenses? If not it doesn't really matter if the price is good.

Will probably use 50mm and 85mm on portraits and landscape, nature, etc. I don't know when or how to use a that 35mm, i don't like macro photos that much and i know 50mm is cheap on the market.

If yes, then ask yourself this question; can you afford to repair the camera when (not if) the shutter fails?

I have never used a mirorless camera and have not sent a DSLR to repair center. I don't know what is waiting for me, that's a big curiosity for me.

Regardless, I wouldn't start my Canon ecosystem with a model with such high shuttercount. I would find one with no more than 30-40K on the clock and get a cheap prime to start with.

There are other deals at same price with very low shutter count but only body. I always used kit zoom lenses which they are very practical but, I want to try myself with other kind of lenses to see test my limits.

Also lets say the shutter is not working correctly or completely fail, can i use it only with a electronic shutter?

 

[bodeswell]

What exactly are the lenses? If RF, they are the bargain in that package and the body is a bonus.

All of them are RF lenses.

Ask yourself this question - were you planning to get those lenses? If not it doesn't really matter if the price is good.

Will probably use 50mm and 85mm on portraits and landscape, nature, etc. I don't know when or how to use a that 35mm, i don't like macro photos that much and i know 50mm is cheap on the market.

If yes, then ask yourself this question; can you afford to repair the camera when (not if) the shutter fails?

I have never used a mirorless camera and have not sent a DSLR to repair center. I don't know what is waiting for me, that's a big curiosity for me.

Regardless, I wouldn't start my Canon ecosystem with a model with such high shuttercount. I would find one with no more than 30-40K on the clock and get a cheap prime to start with.

There are other deals at same price with very low shutter count but only body. I always used kit zoom lenses which they are very practical but, I want to try myself with other kind of lenses to see test my limits.

Also lets say the shutter is not working correctly or completely fail, can i use it only with an electronic shutter?

Not if the shutter fails closed I suppose.

To me the deal sounds too good to be true. I would walk away unless I could return it within, say, two weeks.