Phone Panorama Mode - Motorised Rotating Gimbal?

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I never manage to keep my phone level enough when using the panorama mode on my phone. I could use a tripod with a head that allows a pure rotation movement, but carrying a tripod to shoot with your phone is somewhat incongruent.



Any recommendations on gimbals that offer rotation in a way compatible with panorama modes?
 
The DJI Osmo Mobile 6 gimbal works very well with my iPhone 14 Pro for this purpose. The Osmo Mobile gimbal It is very easy to set up and can even mount on a Monopod or tripod if you need help supporting it.
 
The DJI Osmo Mobile 6 gimbal works very well with my iPhone 14 Pro for this purpose. The Osmo Mobile gimbal It is very easy to set up and can even mount on a Monopod or tripod if you need help supporting it.
Thank you, do these gimbals, besides enabling a clean rotation, also have levelling functionality, ie, ensuring that the rotation axis stay perpendicular due to ground?
 
Yes they are self-leveling, or you can set a tilt angle
 
Quit looking at the screen when you are trying to take a panoramic shot. Try holding your phone against your chest or belly and turn your whole body with your legs. Personally I have found refining my technique much more productive than buying another piece of gear to carry.
 
Quit looking at the screen when you are trying to take a panoramic shot. Try holding your phone against your chest or belly and turn your whole body with your legs. Personally I have found refining my technique much more productive than buying another piece of gear to carry.
My approach was inspired by the swing-lens camera (Horizon, Widelux) I was quite fond of during the film days. These cameras provide a pretty similar image than the phone-based panorama modes.

Most of these cameras use a simple spring-driven rotation mechanism and a bull’s eye level. The rotation is quick enough (significantly quicker than a normal rotation with phone panorama mode) that is easy to keep the camera level during it.

I thought it shouldn’t be rocket science to built a spring-driven rotation handle. Devices like the Osmo gimbal do get the job done, probably a bit better than a mechanical system but there are in comparison ‘rocket science’.
 
Quit looking at the screen when you are trying to take a panoramic shot. Try holding your phone against your chest or belly and turn your whole body with your legs. Personally I have found refining my technique much more productive than buying another piece of gear to carry.
My approach was inspired by the swing-lens camera (Horizon, Widelux) I was quite fond of during the film days. These cameras provide a pretty similar image than the phone-based panorama modes.

Most of these cameras use a simple spring-driven rotation mechanism and a bull’s eye level. The rotation is quick enough (significantly quicker than a normal rotation with phone panorama mode) that is easy to keep the camera level during it.
I thought it shouldn’t be rocket science to built a spring-driven rotation handle. Devices like the Osmo gimbal do get the job done, probably a bit better than a mechanical system but there are in comparison ‘rocket science’.
I remember the Widelux cameras, but I have never used one. I believe the body stays in one place while the lens sweeps. I always assumed that these pretty much had to be used on a tripod?

I did quite a few sweep panoramas with my Sony A77 which would do in camera stitching much like my current cellphone does. After much experimenting with the A77 then eventually my cell phone I found that keeping my body stiff and rotating with my legs works best for me.

Now I use a wide angle lens with several shots and stitch them together on my computer. I get much better results than with the sweep method even if I don't use a tripod.

I am not sure how you are going to keep the phone perfectly level without a tripod? Anything hand held is going to have some variance in the horizon. Using my body to stabilize the camera is the best I have been able to figure for a sweep panorama.
 
I remember the Widelux cameras, but I have never used one. I believe the body stays in one place while the lens sweeps. I always assumed that these pretty much had to be used on a tripod?

I did quite a few sweep panoramas with my Sony A77 which would do in camera stitching much like my current cellphone does. After much experimenting with the A77 then eventually my cell phone I found that keeping my body stiff and rotating with my legs works best for me.

Now I use a wide angle lens with several shots and stitch them together on my computer. I get much better results than with the sweep method even if I don't use a tripod.

I am not sure how you are going to keep the phone perfectly level without a tripod? Anything hand held is going to have some variance in the horizon. Using my body to stabilize the camera is the best I have been able to figure for a sweep panorama.
I used my Horzon 202 almost always handheld. The bull’s eye level is the key, it allows you to level the camera on two axes. You still have to center your subject on the right/left direction (eg, if you are in front of a building), but that is something you have to do with every image you take with any camera (unless you are taking a 360° shot).

Keeping the horizon straight is also something you have to do with almost all shots (unless of course a tilted horizon is a stylistic choice). And the up/down levelling is also something with normal shots, except of course it is very often a stylistic choice to break that levelling (with a swing lens camera breaking this results in a curved horizon, as you also get with a tilted fisheye).

The swing lens cameras not only enable a clean rotation, with the bull’s eye level (which on my Horizon is also visible in the viewfinder), you can level your camera on two axes. It is a bit strange that phones don’t show whether you are level on those two axes before you start a panoramic shot (the center line my iPhone shows during a panoramic shot appears to be linked to the up/down, but only to changes of the up/down orientation during the shot).

Your method of bracing the phone against your body appears to help significantly with the clean rotation aspect, but it cannot guarantee an up/down and “straight-horizontal” levelling (the latter might be easier if you can align the phone alongside pattern of your clothing).
Keeping a phone level during an “machine induced’ rotation is similarly difficult with a swing lens camera. You need some kind of level indicator. Of course, the built-in gyroscopes of phones and gimbals are more precise than a bull’s eye level, but since my phone doesn’t display them, I am wondering whether just adding an external fluid-based level to my phone would already help.

There is one key difference between my Horizon 202 and the panoramic modes on phones, the rotation on the faster, handholdable shutter speeds takes maybe only half a second. It is easier to keep the device level during that than during the multi-second “rotation” needed for panoramic modes on phones. There presumably is some “shutter shock” camera movement as there is with any kind of handheld camera that doesn’t have an electronic shutter start.
 
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I remember the Widelux cameras, but I have never used one. I believe the body stays in one place while the lens sweeps. I always assumed that these pretty much had to be used on a tripod?
Most of the men and women I knew who used a widelux handheld it. Recently actor Jeff Bridges published a book of his widelux photos mostly made on movie sets . Sylvia Platchy https://sylviaplachy.com/portfolio did some wonderful street photography work with one, much of which was published in the now defunct Village Voice newspaper.

i remember Widelux cameras as having a reputation for being mechanically erratic and the people I knew who used one usually had two or three.

another panoramic camera that was fun to use handheld or on a tripod waz the Globus which could shoot 360 degree or longer circular panoramas. Lomo makes (or least made the Spinner 360 film camera that works the same way and looks like a plastic version of the metal bodied, handmade Globus.
 
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i remember Widelux cameras as having a reputation for being mechanically erratic and the people I knew who used one usually had two or three.
Just to add my own personal experience, in that I never had any mechanical problems with my Horizon 202.
 
Why wouldn't you buy an ultrawide for your Nikon bodies and stich together several shots on the computer for a panorama?
 

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