The X-E4: how do you live with it?

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This is my second attempt to love the X-E4, but again I’m really struggling and I think it’s doomed to failure. Maybe someone can demonstrate how it might not be: I’m curious to hear from those who have adapted to it from earlier models, particularly those who made/make heavy use of recipes.

Hardware wise, I adore it. I like the output of X-Trans IV, I love the ergonomics of the unadorned X-E4 (even if I’m almost alone in that), and I actually think it’s the most beautiful camera that Fujifilm have ever produced. The buttons on the back plate have the tactile feedback of a slab of concrete and the shutter button has a very different feel to other/earlier models, but I can deal with those.

The problems begin and end with the firmware. Pretty much Fujifilm camera seems to demand some form of adaption and rehabilitation on the part of the user (whether it’s the ordering of the buttons, the way the view modes work, or whatever) but the X-E4, compared to all models before, is a sea change.

Some things are slightly obscure annoyances: like for instance the fact that the modal switching of the command dial won’t allow you to use a “dead” function. So on the X-E3 I can switch between shutter speed (dead, because I use the dedicated dial) and ISO, which means the dial can be unresponsive (preventing the accidental movements that such dials are prone to) until I actually want to use it, when I click it. The X-E4 won’t let you shift out of ISO mode, which means it’s always open to accidental adjustment unless you switch the whole thing off. I’ve never worked out why Fuji only allow the dials to be used for things which are only relevant if either (a) you’re using a lens with no aperture ring, or (b) you really should have bought a PASM camera. There are dozens of things where it would be so useful to press the dial to activate it, slide through a list of options, and then click to deactivate again—or even to click to cycle through multiple such lists—but no.

Anyway, I digress.

The real issue of course is the custom settings model, which has kind of been done to death, but I just can’t see how to make it work for me. For example, if I use an XF lens then I want AF; if I use a manual lens then I want focus peaking. That means jumping between MF and AF modes, but every time I select new custom settings one or other of those will be reset every time. So using custom settings for recipes seems to be a big problem.

The only workaround I can see is to just stay in the non-custom settings mode, change film sim instead of recipe when I want to jump between B&W and some sort of colour (oh, in which case a dedicated dial for that would be handy 🙂) and use the camera as a raw camera, effectively retrofitting recipes in Lightroom. But then sometimes I want high contrast, and other times low, so it’s a poor substitute for recipes. Plus, for what I want to use this body for, I’d mostly prefer not to have to faff around with raws.

By avoiding recipes, it would then make more sense to use custom settings for different ways of shooting. Maybe one for manual lenses, one for AF, one for sitting on a tripod if I ever use the X-E4 for that… but compared to a PASM camera the custom settings are very limited, so it doesn’t really seem worth it—the extent of what would be changed in a custom setting bank could be achieved with similar effort to selecting that whole bank. On the Ricoh GRs for instance, custom settings reconfigure the whole camera—from image styles and focus modes right through to function button assignments, exposure compensation and the actual focus position. I don’t use those custom modes much, but for a couple of very specific purposes, ie completely different ways of shooting, they’re incredibly effective. Fuji’s settings seem to have just enough to break the old way of working (recipes) but not enough to be actually useful. Thus far, this is what’s prevented me buying any recent Fuji kit, and it may well continue to do so.

I should add that this is the most first-worldly of first world problems: the X-E4 primarily would be a second body alongside an X-Pro3 (though there are occasions when the slightly smaller size of an X-E makes it fit where the X-Pro doesn’t). It’s a potential replacement for my X-E3 which is flawed only in that it lacks some imaging features of X-Trans IV, and (the main reason) the X-Trans III sensor is a nightmare for hot pixels. I have an X-T4 that would in many ways make a great second body, but it’s comparatively a large and weighty lump, so not ideal for this purpose. I just wish that such a perfect piece of hardware wasn’t made practically unusable by its firmware 🙂

Anyroad… I’m curious as to any anecdotes of adapting to the new model. How did it change your way of working? I think my inevitable course of action will be to send the X-E4 back and use the X-T4 instead, but I live in hope…
 
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My X-E4 is my only body, and the only fuji X camera I've owned. Coming from only shooting film for a decade plus, the relative lack of buttons/physical controls compared to past iterations in the series was never a problem for me- it still has way more buttons than any of my film cameras. For my set-it-and-forget-it use case (RAW only, almost exclusively aperture priority, and I only own AF lenses), the camera is perfect... the only missing feature for me is IBIS. I can bring my entire kit with me on any walk in my PD 6L sling: X-E4 with 90mm f/2 attached, XF35mm f/2, XF16mm f/2.8 and Sigma 56mm f/1.4. Very nifty!
 
I love my X-E4, my only body and some lenses from 12 to 50mm. I had Xe1 and XE3 before. I do not find I am missing anything since most settings are accessible from the Q button or the function button.
 
This is my second attempt to love the X-E4, but again I’m really struggling and I think it’s doomed to failure. Maybe someone can demonstrate how it might not be: I’m curious to hear from those who have adapted to it from earlier models, particularly those who made/make heavy use of recipes.

Hardware wise, I adore it. I like the output of X-Trans IV, I love the ergonomics of the unadorned X-E4 (even if I’m almost alone in that), and I actually think it’s the most beautiful camera that Fujifilm have ever produced. The buttons on the back plate have the tactile feedback of a slab of concrete and the shutter button has a very different feel to other/earlier models, but I can deal with those.

The problems begin and end with the firmware. Pretty much Fujifilm camera seems to demand some form of adaption and rehabilitation on the part of the user (whether it’s the ordering of the buttons, the way the view modes work, or whatever) but the X-E4, compared to all models before, is a sea change.

Some things are slightly obscure annoyances: like for instance the fact that the modal switching of the command dial won’t allow you to use a “dead” function. So on the X-E3 I can switch between shutter speed (dead, because I use the dedicated dial) and ISO, which means the dial can be unresponsive (preventing the accidental movements that such dials are prone to) until I actually want to use it, when I click it. The X-E4 won’t let you shift out of ISO mode, which means it’s always open to accidental adjustment unless you switch the whole thing off. I’ve never worked out why Fuji only allow the dials to be used for things which are only relevant if either (a) you’re using a lens with no aperture ring, or (b) you really should have bought a PASM camera. There are dozens of things where it would be so useful to press the dial to activate it, slide through a list of options, and then click to deactivate again—or even to click to cycle through multiple such lists—but no.

Anyway, I digress.

The real issue of course is the custom settings model, which has kind of been done to death, but I just can’t see how to make it work for me. For example, if I use an XF lens then I want AF; if I use a manual lens then I want focus peaking. That means jumping between MF and AF modes, but every time I select new custom settings one or other of those will be reset every time. So using custom settings for recipes seems to be a big problem.

The only workaround I can see is to just stay in the non-custom settings mode, change film sim instead of recipe when I want to jump between B&W and some sort of colour (oh, in which case a dedicated dial for that would be handy 🙂) and use the camera as a raw camera, effectively retrofitting recipes in Lightroom. But then sometimes I want high contrast, and other times low, so it’s a poor substitute for recipes. Plus, for what I want to use this body for, I’d mostly prefer not to have to faff around with raws.

By avoiding recipes, it would then make more sense to use custom settings for different ways of shooting. Maybe one for manual lenses, one for AF, one for sitting on a tripod if I ever use the X-E4 for that… but compared to a PASM camera the custom settings are very limited, so it doesn’t really seem worth it—the extent of what would be changed in a custom setting bank could be achieved with similar effort to selecting that whole bank. On the Ricoh GRs for instance, custom settings reconfigure the whole camera—from image styles and focus modes right through to function button assignments, exposure compensation and the actual focus position. I don’t use those custom modes much, but for a couple of very specific purposes, ie completely different ways of shooting, they’re incredibly effective. Fuji’s settings seem to have just enough to break the old way of working (recipes) but not enough to be actually useful. Thus far, this is what’s prevented me buying any recent Fuji kit, and it may well continue to do so.

I should add that this is the most first-worldly of first world problems: the X-E4 primarily would be a second body alongside an X-Pro3 (though there are occasions when the slightly smaller size of an X-E makes it fit where the X-Pro doesn’t). It’s a potential replacement for my X-E3 which is flawed only in that it lacks some imaging features of X-Trans IV, and (the main reason) the X-Trans III sensor is a nightmare for hot pixels. I have an X-T4 that would in many ways make a great second body, but it’s comparatively a large and weighty lump, so not ideal for this purpose. I just wish that such a perfect piece of hardware wasn’t made practically unusable by its firmware 🙂

Anyroad… I’m curious as to any anecdotes of adapting to the new model. How did it change your way of working? I think my inevitable course of action will be to send the X-E4 back and use the X-T4 instead, but I live in hope…
I don't know if I can help, but here are some thoughts.

I'm not sure what you mean by not letting you change dead functions with the control dial. On mine, no matter what combination of manual controls I set (direct control of shutter, aperture, or ISO), the functions that I'm allowed to toggle to and adjust still make sense. If anything is bizarre to me, it's the fact that I can choose a shutter speed with the shutter speed dial, yet the control dial can still change the shutter speed to something different.

The combination where the control dial caret is stuck on ISO (and easily bumped) is when you have manual aperture control selected on a compatible lens, and A selected for shutter speed. Then the control dial caret stays over ISO, and can't be moved to the other settings. Yes, annoying, but I think we're stuck with that one unless you're willing to totally remove ISO from the front command dial options.

As for custom settings, I only use one for BIF that Morris gave me and that one is programmed for C1 on my XT5. I have a custom button assignment to jump straight to C1 if all of a sudden I need that mode. But even then, I still have to change AF mode to C, Drive Mode to CH and usually my focus limiter on my lens. So even C1 is not a fast or convenient switch.

I don't use custom settings on the XE4 at all. But yes, the mix of settings that Fujifilm has decided to capture in custom settings is odd. In the end, the XE4 for me is limited to travel. Its purpose is to be a fun camera, and I'm not trying to be serious or create award winning images while snapping away on the tour boat. My XT5, on the other hand, better darn well perform when I'm ready.

I don't see an easy answer to you. My only solution would be to be to pick your favorite recipes, and program them all with consistent hardware starting points, knowing that you will still have to change those before you start shooting. I tend to leave that level of fine tuning to post processing.

Good luck!

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Randy
 
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The combination where the control dial caret is stuck on ISO (and easily bumped) is when you have manual aperture control selected on a compatible lens, and A selected for shutter speed. Then the control dial caret stays over ISO, and can't be moved to the other settings. Yes, annoying, but I think we're stuck with that one unless you're willing to totally remove ISO from the front command dial options.
That’s what I’ve done. I’ve ended up configuring the Q Menu (which I never need on earlier bodies) to contain things I’d normally access by other means, such as ISO, focus mode etc.
I don't use custom settings on the XE4 at all.
This has been where I’ve ended up with it so far, too. I’ve toyed with having three recipes with AF, the same three with MF, and a tripod setting—but the last one only really adds self-timer, which I can use via the Q menu anyway, so that’s pointless; and there was something that I currently forget which put a spanner in the works of the others.

So basically I’ve come to the conclusion that I need to just think of this camera like one of the old X-A models, which had no custom settings; shoot it like the cameras I was using 10-20 years ago, with no recipes, needing to process raw files instead. Annoying (and pretty daft of Fuji to make one of their key selling points borderline unusable) but I’ll see how it goes.
In the end, the XE4 for me is limited to travel.
For me it needs to sit in a niche between my X-Pro3 and my GR IIIx: I use the X-Pro for street, and the X-E4 will carry a second focal length or a manual lens for creating a quite different style of image. Unfortunately that style can involve exposures of around a second, where the X-E3 starts needing me to find and clone out hotspots in the images (pixel mapping has no effect, sadly).
I don't see an easy answer to you. My only solution would be to be to pick your favorite recipes, and program them all with consistent hardware starting points, knowing that you will still have to change those before you start shooting. I tend to leave that level of fine tuning to post processing.
Agreed. I think that’s it: it’s no longer a JPEG camera (well, unless you only ever shoot one recipe). It’s probably tolerable, it’s just frustrating that it breaks all my muscle memory from other Fujifilm cameras. Problem is, if they don’t fix this mess in future cameras, that’s me stuck at the X-Pro3 and X-T4 forever; I won’t buy any more.

I haven’t sold the X-E3 yet 🙂
 
After a quick walk round the nearby pond, I realise now it has another infuriating design decision—one which I believe also isn’t improved by newer firmware—and that is the screen flipping upside down when you try to use it as a waist-level finder.

The workaround is to hold it more than about six inches from your body, but that’s often awkward and it’s quite unstable, so it’s kind of a no-go on that front.

So I think I just have to roll with the X-Pro3 and change lenses on that, and forget the idea of carrying a second body. I do wish the Pro3 had Eterna Bleach Bypass, though.

On a tangent, I’m also curious why, given the removal of the focus mode switch from the X-E4, they didn’t see fit to automatically switch into MF mode when no lens is detected. But then, I don’t really know what was going through Fujifilm’s mind when they came up with this firmware anyway.

Oh well.

A consolation shot from my walk earlier, anyway.

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My only gripe in that area is the sensitivity of the eye sensor. If there is even the slightest smudge or speck of dust on it, it thinks you’re looking through the viewfinder. Getting it clean enough in such a cramped space is nearly impossible.
 
I have the X-E4 as my only camera. Before that, I had only the X-Pro2. I'm an old school, one camera type of guy even if I do use it professionally more than as a hobby.

Pro work is video. I have channels on many social platforms to market my webshop. I use Eterna, recording to SD and PP in Davinci. Because of the great colour grading tools there, the result is good. I'm working in 4K so I can crop. There's very little for me to config. One exception is an LCD screen I was recording that showed lots of rolling at 25fps. I had to switch to 29,97fps for that. This in turn causes the X-E4 to overheat and shut down 🤦‍♂️ Aside from that, I have no complaints.



For photography, I’m using a very basic approach as well. I did a shot of a concert last Saturday. Set it to Acros, max 12800ISO (was kinda dark there) and did my thing. I should fix contrast a bit, but as this is not my core business, I'm a bit lazy about it. Like the others, I set up the Q menu to contain what I need. That works mostly fine, though I do miss the AF/MF switch at the front. I swapped between my Fuji 28/f2 and 7Artisans 35/f1.2 regularly. Switching focus mode was a bit of a hassle.

But in my humble opinion, it's much, much more of a hassle to get another camera. Which one would I get then? X-H2S sound great but is huge. X-T5 sounds nice as well but the screen doesn't flip over. I do use OBS for framing (and much besides of course) but a quick peek on the camera screen is practical. Anyway, the process of buying a new camera and selling this one is much more of a hassle to me than the minor niggles I mentioned.
 

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