Thom knows something...

[Bob A L]

To me it simply makes sense that Nikon will come out with an updated Z50 before the end of this year. The Z50 is the only thing in the Nikon lineup that has the traditional body style from the last 10-15 years for ILC cameras in a small physical size so often favored by newcomers at a package price under $1,000 usd, and to loose an entire continent of potential market over failure to update to comply with the crazy usb connection rule would seem totally irresponsible on Nikon's part. I just can't believe Nikon will just sit still and loose this entire portion of their market.

 

[Wezre]

If Thom knows something so does DPR, and Photography Life, and PetaPixel, and Steve Perry, and….. In fact, if there is something, the “First Impressions” posts that show up within hours are likely ready to go.

PetaPixel recently published a podcast video on their YouTube channel that was filmed in Japan. Could have been there for an upcoming Sony product (A1ii is rumored to be announced next month), for the rumored Nikon Z50ii, or for something completely different. But that video coupled with Thom's NDA comment seem to indicate that a new Nikon body is coming soon.

 

[Wezre]

This is from Today

https://weibo.com/p/1005052424567755

Please tell me what it says. Google autotranslate is producing mostly gibberish. All that I can see is a short spec list for a FF camera with certain 4K video options.

Hesay (Why don't I care about N2323?Because I was waiting for N2326, it finally announced the registration information.
A high-end product of 5.1GHz dual-band wireless. )

and in the translated image.

If this is for a high-end product, I'm wondering if it's related to a Nikon RED product rather than a new DX body. Or perhaps the DX body is higher end than many expect it to be?

 

[mosswings]

To me it simply makes sense that Nikon will come out with an updated Z50 before the end of this year. The Z50 is the only thing in the Nikon lineup that has the traditional body style from the last 10-15 years for ILC cameras in a small physical size so often favored by newcomers at a package price under $1,000 usd, and to loose an entire continent of potential market over failure to update to comply with the crazy usb connection rule would seem totally irresponsible on Nikon's part. I just can't believe Nikon will just sit still and loose this entire portion of their market.

I believe that the EU USB-C ruling is for NEW products. If Nikon chose to continue selling the Z50 as is, it could certainly continue to do so, as it has been selling it there for years.

 

[George 68]

To me it simply makes sense that Nikon will come out with an updated Z50 before the end of this year. The Z50 is the only thing in the Nikon lineup that has the traditional body style from the last 10-15 years for ILC cameras in a small physical size so often favored by newcomers at a package price under $1,000 usd, and to loose an entire continent of potential market over failure to update to comply with the crazy usb connection rule

What's crazy about a rule that cuts down on electronic waste and the number of different cables we need to have?

would seem totally irresponsible on Nikon's part. I just can't believe Nikon will just sit still and loose this entire portion of their market.

I believe that the EU USB-C ruling is for NEW products. If Nikon chose to continue selling the Z50 as is, it could certainly continue to do so, as it has been selling it there for years.

My understanding (not my professional area of expertise) is that only existing stock can be sold after the year end, not newly manufactured.

 

[fz750]

To me it simply makes sense that Nikon will come out with an updated Z50 before the end of this year. The Z50 is the only thing in the Nikon lineup that has the traditional body style from the last 10-15 years for ILC cameras in a small physical size so often favored by newcomers at a package price under $1,000 usd, and to loose an entire continent of potential market over failure to update to comply with the crazy usb connection rule

What's crazy about a rule that cuts down on electronic waste and the number of different cables we need to have?

Brilliant idea if you ask me.

would seem totally irresponsible on Nikon's part. I just can't believe Nikon will just sit still and loose this entire portion of their market.

I believe that the EU USB-C ruling is for NEW products. If Nikon chose to continue selling the Z50 as is, it could certainly continue to do so, as it has been selling it there for years.

My understanding (not my professional area of expertise) is that only existing stock can be sold after the year end, not newly manufactured.

Correct, only existing stock in the EU on the cutoff date.

 

[mobydick]

Since Aug:

• Updated body design
• Expeed 7
• Flippy screen like the Z6 III
• USB-C
• Will use the same Nikon EN-EL25 battery
• Official announcement: soon (before the end of 2024)
• Compatible with the new Nikon Imaging Cloud

My guess is that this is part of pushing Z9 tech (Expeed 7) down the line.

Any my further guess is that is has no IBIS, a slightly updated version of the good old 20 MP sensor, and the AF capabilities of the Zf. And because of these reasons, many will be disappointed...

 

[Bob A L]

If I lived there I would have to buy an additional charger with a new cord, as I will never charge a battery in my camera with a cord dangling from my camera to a plug in somewhere. And if i had to pick a connector type it would not be a flimsy little usb c type. So just an additional cord to buy and keep track of. And additionally, the usb connectors are basically data connectors, and battery charging is a power connection.

 

[George 68]

And additionally, the usb connectors are basically data connectors, and battery charging is a power connection.

You’re a bit out of touch with the technology, Bob. USBC PD is good for up to 240W which definitely makes it a power connection. My last two laptops have used USBC as their power connection.

That aside, there are plenty of people keen to see a Z50 II and if the crazy law is the catalyst for that, then no bad thing, surely? Personally, I’m not optimistic that it will be a worthwhile upgrade if it does come.

 

[GeoffRG]

Bottom of this page:

https://www.zsystemuser.com/nikon-z-system-news-and/magic-8-ball-answers-future.html

"I originally had an additional question in this list to answer. However, an NDA now prevents me from doing so. You’ll know the question and answer sooner rather than later."

I guess it means there will be some new toys soon. Question could have been about the Z7 III update, or, maybe more likely, about the next incarnation of Z DX.

[Edit: Just realised this is dated October 21st, but I did not see this before today even though I am sure I visited his sites between then and end of last week. So - apologies if this has already been discussed.]

Probably the Z9 Mark II with RED technology built-in for video people.

I honestly don't think it's a Z7 III and if it was, it would just be an Expeed 7 with the same hardware and same body. but I don't think Nikon is even planning that right now or in the near future (now or in 2025).

Z9 II dont be daft, how quickly do you think a new CPU can be developed, bug tested, placed into a prototype, have the machine done for parts, get a prototype into the field, embed RED systems etc I think end of 2025 is most likely.

A DX body before Xmas makes complete sense,

Probably quicker than you think. Do you really think it took Nikon only 6 months from Dev announcement in mid 2021 to Dec 2021 to develop the Z9? Likely not. More than likely they started on that project as far back as 2020 when the Z II's were announced. This also may be one reason we haven't seen an updated Z7 III or DX camera ... they're working on a new Z9 possibly in an anticipation if an upcoming Sony a1 Mark II (as that most directly competes with the Z9; the R1 has already been released so Canon played their cards).

The Z7 III I don't know when it will be. I'm speculating maybe late next year, but I think that a Z9 Mark II will come before a Z7 III basically. The point being, if Nikon is going to start putting RED tech into cameras, it likely will start with an updated Z9 (if it's to be in a hybrid camera and not a video-specific camera like the Canon C-series).

I would expect that the Z9 II development started as soon as production of the Z9 started, possibly earlier.

 

[labalaba]

Since Aug:

• Updated body design
• Expeed 7
• Flippy screen like the Z6 III
• USB-C
• Will use the same Nikon EN-EL25 battery
• Official announcement: soon (before the end of 2024)
• Compatible with the new Nikon Imaging Cloud

My guess is that this is part of pushing Z9 tech (Expeed 7) down the line.

Any my further guess is that is has no IBIS, a slightly updated version of the good old 20 MP sensor, and the AF capabilities of the Zf. And because of these reasons, many will be disappointed...

...but I will be happy

 

[chambeshi]

And additionally, the usb connectors are basically data connectors, and battery charging is a power connection.

You’re a bit out of touch with the technology, Bob. USBC PD is good for up to 240W which definitely makes it a power connection. My last two laptops have used USBC as their power connection.

That aside, there are plenty of people keen to see a Z50 II and if the crazy law is the catalyst for that, then no bad thing, surely? Personally, I’m not optimistic that it will be a worthwhile upgrade if it does come.

The updated chargers for the ENEL18 and ENEL15 batteries are USB C PD only - with backward compatibility with older updates of these batteries, except their original incarnations:

Battery charger MH-34

Nikon MH-33 Battery Charger | Mirrorless Camera Accessories | Nikon USA

The MH-33 Battery Charger is designed specifically to charge EN-EL18d, EN-EL18c and EN-EL18b rechargeable Lithium-ion batteries.

www.nikonusa.com

Bundling the MH-34 (or selling it separately) solves the legal issue for the D780 and D850.

In only one particular case, Nikon only has to release an updated USB C PD charger for the ENEL25 battery, which can be charged in the Z50 using a suitable USBC PD AC charger.

In any case the EU legislation is as clear as mud about built-in batteries (eg tablets, phones) versus removable batteries in ILCs. How many ILC owners refuse to charge batteries in the camera, in case of damaging the camera?

 

[chambeshi]

A new video Zoom

https://www.nikon.com/company/news/2024/1030_imaging_01.html

Nikon's First-Ever Full-Frame Video Lens Is the Nikkor Z 28-135mm f/4 Power Zoom

It's the company's first-ever video-centric lens – for any mount – and signifies a continued shift in the company's direction

petapixel.com

 

[Ryan Schwartz]

It feels like it will be an updated Z50 with USB-C for EU compliance.

Apple is doing the same thing by re-releasing their Mac peripherals, like their mouse and keyboard, as USB-C devices instead of Lightning.

--
Ryan

 

[LTheWafflePWN]

A new video Zoom

https://www.nikon.com/company/news/2024/1030_imaging_01.html

https://petapixel.com/2024/10/29/ni...lens-is-the-nikkor-z-28-135mm-f-4-power-zoom/

I gotta say, I hope this isn't the 'something exciting'. I'm all for a new lens and this seems interesting for video applications, especially for tripod or gimbal mounted video applications. For stills, a quite large looking f/4 lens that's nearly the same focal lengths as the 24-120 f/4 doesn't do anything for me

This lens was probably never 'for me' however, totally fine! I absolutely love that glossy metallic yellow near the mount though. Reminds me of the 'gold ring' on the pro F mount glass.

 

[James Grove]

Thoms popcorn while he reads all the comments in this thread



--
www.jamesgrove.photography

 

[BasilG]

Thoms popcorn while he reads all the comments in this thread

Looks like so far none of them have been bad enough for him to uncloak and intervene. But maybe we will get another episode of "strange things said on the internet."

 

[BasilG]

A new video Zoom

https://www.nikon.com/company/news/2024/1030_imaging_01.html

https://petapixel.com/2024/10/29/ni...lens-is-the-nikkor-z-28-135mm-f-4-power-zoom/

LOL. Exactly what the doctor ordered!

 

[shuncheung]

It feels like it will be an updated Z50 with USB-C for EU compliance.

Apple is doing the same thing by re-releasing their Mac peripherals, like their mouse and keyboard, as USB-C devices instead of Lightning.

My wife and I upgraded to the iPhone 15 last year, with USB-C port. But we sure still have a few Apple items that use the Lightning USB: mouse, Apple TV remote, and a few AirPods .... I can't wait to replace all Lightning-dependent items and those cables.

 

[Bob A L]

In any case the EU legislation is as clear as mud about built-in batteries (eg tablets, phones) versus removable batteries in ILCs. How many ILC owners refuse to charge batteries in the camera, in case of damaging the camera?

Me for one, I'll never charge a battery in my camera connected to something else with a card, and also because I might want to use my camera while a battery was being charged. Guilty as charged :-D