My dell got a new bios update...WOW. They did a great job this time

[The Point and Shoot Pro]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

 

[RLight]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

 

[The Point and Shoot Pro]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

What model do you have? One of those new ones? They didn’t change voltages, power curve or c-states did they?

HI RLight,

I have the inspiron 5406 2 in 1. It was made in 2020. I honestly never looked at the voltages etc. I am going by how long it takes to boot, opening software, and general use.

The system has a i7 1165G7, Xe Graphics and 64gb of ram. Whatever the new bios is, it fixed the heat, and battery consumption issues that were happening for about 6 months since the last update. Plus it just got much faster as well.

 

[RLight]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

What model do you have? One of those new ones? They didn’t change voltages, power curve or c-states did they?

HI RLight,

I have the inspiron 5406 2 in 1. It was made in 2020. I honestly never looked at the voltages etc. I am going by how long it takes to boot, opening software, and general use.

The system has a i7 1165G7, Xe Graphics and 64gb of ram. Whatever the new bios is, it fixed the heat, and battery consumption issues that were happening for about 6 months since the last update. Plus it just got much faster as well.

What's the new bios version? We should review the release notes...

This strikes me as the great Coffee Lake Fiasco Apple had with the 2018 MacBook Pro where they accidentally shipped it with stock voltages, pushed out an update after it had shipped, and users were both having cooler laptops, and faster laptops more in line with published benchmarks.

Anecdotal evidence suggests Apple undervolted it. That will definitely account for both.

This is definitely worthy of checking the release notes for.

 

[The Point and Shoot Pro]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

What model do you have? One of those new ones? They didn’t change voltages, power curve or c-states did they?

HI RLight,

I have the inspiron 5406 2 in 1. It was made in 2020. I honestly never looked at the voltages etc. I am going by how long it takes to boot, opening software, and general use.

The system has a i7 1165G7, Xe Graphics and 64gb of ram. Whatever the new bios is, it fixed the heat, and battery consumption issues that were happening for about 6 months since the last update. Plus it just got much faster as well.

What's the new bios version? We should review the release notes...

This strikes me as the great Coffee Lake Fiasco Apple had with the 2018 MacBook Pro where they accidentally shipped it with stock voltages, pushed out an update after it had shipped, and users were both having cooler laptops, and faster laptops more in line with published benchmarks.

Anecdotal evidence suggests Apple undervolted it. That will definitely account for both.

This is definitely worthy of checking the release notes for.

Version 1.30.0, 1.30.0. It just says security updates. But there is obviously much more going on than that because the previous one was a hot mess. As soon as I installed it, the fans would be on constantly, and it would be slow and laggy. The new one, it's quiet fast and snappy and has much better battery life like 2 hrs better.

 

[RLight]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

What model do you have? One of those new ones? They didn’t change voltages, power curve or c-states did they?

HI RLight,

I have the inspiron 5406 2 in 1. It was made in 2020. I honestly never looked at the voltages etc. I am going by how long it takes to boot, opening software, and general use.

The system has a i7 1165G7, Xe Graphics and 64gb of ram. Whatever the new bios is, it fixed the heat, and battery consumption issues that were happening for about 6 months since the last update. Plus it just got much faster as well.

What's the new bios version? We should review the release notes...

This strikes me as the great Coffee Lake Fiasco Apple had with the 2018 MacBook Pro where they accidentally shipped it with stock voltages, pushed out an update after it had shipped, and users were both having cooler laptops, and faster laptops more in line with published benchmarks.

Anecdotal evidence suggests Apple undervolted it. That will definitely account for both.

This is definitely worthy of checking the release notes for.

Version 1.30.0, 1.30.0. It just says security updates. But there is obviously much more going on than that because the previous one was a hot mess. As soon as I installed it, the fans would be on constantly, and it would be slow and laggy. The new one, it's quiet fast and snappy and has much better battery life like 2 hrs better.

Some of these speculative access or side channel mitigations getting shifted from software to hardware, make a pretty big performance / energy efficiency difference. By applying a BIOS update, that applied it at a hardware level, lifted the stress in some cases from the OS, leading to both performance lift and energy use improvement. However, those were the exception, most were, buy new hardware, with the CPU having those updated instructions. There were a couple BIOS updates though, ironically around the 2020 timeframe, so, maybe...

Gotta run.

 

[RLight]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

What model do you have? One of those new ones? They didn’t change voltages, power curve or c-states did they?

HI RLight,

I have the inspiron 5406 2 in 1. It was made in 2020. I honestly never looked at the voltages etc. I am going by how long it takes to boot, opening software, and general use.

The system has a i7 1165G7, Xe Graphics and 64gb of ram. Whatever the new bios is, it fixed the heat, and battery consumption issues that were happening for about 6 months since the last update. Plus it just got much faster as well.

What's the new bios version? We should review the release notes...

This strikes me as the great Coffee Lake Fiasco Apple had with the 2018 MacBook Pro where they accidentally shipped it with stock voltages, pushed out an update after it had shipped, and users were both having cooler laptops, and faster laptops more in line with published benchmarks.

Anecdotal evidence suggests Apple undervolted it. That will definitely account for both.

This is definitely worthy of checking the release notes for.

Version 1.30.0, 1.30.0. It just says security updates. But there is obviously much more going on than that because the previous one was a hot mess. As soon as I installed it, the fans would be on constantly, and it would be slow and laggy. The new one, it's quiet fast and snappy and has much better battery life like 2 hrs better.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/e...4a&productcode=inspiron-14-5406-2-in-1-laptop

https://www.dell.com/support/home/e...4a&productcode=inspiron-14-5406-2-in-1-laptop

The release notes from 1.1.7 are ominous... Sounds like Dell corrected a voltage, c-state or CPU or ram / bus "advertisement" issue, if I was a betting man. Probably something they don't want to publicly admit as both the release notes, the web and BingGPT are cold on that one. That, is probably the source of your uplift in performance. Happens. Again, Apple had the same, but right out the gate on their 2018 MacBook Pro; they forgot to apply the custom voltages out the gate.

Like Dell, they never fessed up, however investigative digging, particularly those running parallels or boot camp, shows it's an undervolting (or right-volting, depending how you look at it since that was probably the original target voltage but never published accidentally due to the quick turnaround for resolution) application by Apple.

If, you went from say 1.0.0 to 1.30.0? You got 1.1.7, too and that and the other fix I have listed above.

I had GPT4 check for microcode updates for your CPU, none that assist performance IE differed CVE transference from software to hardware for speculative mitigation. So it's probably that 1.1.7 update that did it. Begs the question what that's all about.

Edit: it's probably an undervolt and / or c-state change, like Apple. Improved performance, AND, battery life? Yup. We've eliminated CVE microcode transference, so it's probably an undervolt or sleep state default shift.

 

[The Point and Shoot Pro]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

What model do you have? One of those new ones? They didn’t change voltages, power curve or c-states did they?

HI RLight,

I have the inspiron 5406 2 in 1. It was made in 2020. I honestly never looked at the voltages etc. I am going by how long it takes to boot, opening software, and general use.

The system has a i7 1165G7, Xe Graphics and 64gb of ram. Whatever the new bios is, it fixed the heat, and battery consumption issues that were happening for about 6 months since the last update. Plus it just got much faster as well.

What's the new bios version? We should review the release notes...

This strikes me as the great Coffee Lake Fiasco Apple had with the 2018 MacBook Pro where they accidentally shipped it with stock voltages, pushed out an update after it had shipped, and users were both having cooler laptops, and faster laptops more in line with published benchmarks.

Anecdotal evidence suggests Apple undervolted it. That will definitely account for both.

This is definitely worthy of checking the release notes for.

Version 1.30.0, 1.30.0. It just says security updates. But there is obviously much more going on than that because the previous one was a hot mess. As soon as I installed it, the fans would be on constantly, and it would be slow and laggy. The new one, it's quiet fast and snappy and has much better battery life like 2 hrs better.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/e...4a&productcode=inspiron-14-5406-2-in-1-laptop

https://www.dell.com/support/home/e...4a&productcode=inspiron-14-5406-2-in-1-laptop

The release notes from 1.1.7 are ominous... Sounds like Dell corrected a voltage, c-state or CPU or ram / bus "advertisement" issue, if I was a betting man. Probably something they don't want to publicly admit as both the release notes, the web and BingGPT are cold on that one. That, is probably the source of your uplift in performance. Happens. Again, Apple had the same, but right out the gate on their 2018 MacBook Pro; they forgot to apply the custom voltages out the gate.

Like Dell, they never fessed up, however investigative digging, particularly those running parallels or boot camp, shows it's an undervolting (or right-volting, depending how you look at it since that was probably the original target voltage but never published accidentally due to the quick turnaround for resolution) application by Apple.

If, you went from say 1.0.0 to 1.30.0? You got 1.1.7, too and that and the other fix I have listed above.

I had GPT4 check for microcode updates for your CPU, none that assist performance IE differed CVE transference from software to hardware for speculative mitigation. So it's probably that 1.1.7 update that did it. Begs the question what that's all about.

Edit: it's probably an undervolt and / or c-state change, like Apple. Improved performance, AND, battery life? Yup. We've eliminated CVE microcode transference, so it's probably an undervolt or sleep state default shift.

Thanks for the information. Like I said, my system tanked in march some time when the last bios update hit. This one fixed it. Thanks for confirming my findings.

 

[Dick Dastardly]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

So why did you "update" to begin with?

If a bios update can totally change the computer's behaviour like that, i'd stop buying Dell computers altogether.

 

[The Point and Shoot Pro]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

So why did you "update" to begin with?

If a bios update can totally change the computer's behaviour like that, i'd stop buying Dell computers altogether.

Every manufacturer sends out duds at times. No one is immune to screw ups. Apple, Asus, Lenovo are fire duds.

I update my systems to the newest bios consistently to keep them up to date. This is the first time their bios messed with a machine I owned in the many many years of owning dells. They were always fine. So, I think thats a great record. More than I can say for some of the wonderful junk other PC / Mac producers have done that completely bricked their systems.

 

[MummRa]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

DELL Bios updates are more a pain than a saver.

We disabled BIOS updates in over 250+ laptops at work, we update twice a year.

Happy that actually solved something, dont get too much trust with dell. If works, dont touch it.

 

[The Point and Shoot Pro]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

DELL Bios updates are more a pain than a saver.

We disabled BIOS updates in over 250+ laptops at work, we update twice a year.

Happy that actually solved something, dont get too much trust with dell. If works, dont touch it.

Right on, This was the first issue I have ever experienced with Dell and their Bios updates. Always previously it was just security stuff and chipset updates that worked fine. My experience has been great with dell for years.

 

[MummRa]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

DELL Bios updates are more a pain than a saver.

We disabled BIOS updates in over 250+ laptops at work, we update twice a year.

Happy that actually solved something, dont get too much trust with dell. If works, dont touch it.

Right on, This was the first issue I have ever experienced with Dell and their Bios updates. Always previously it was just security stuff and chipset updates that worked fine. My experience has been great with dell for years.

I'm from the time that to do a BIOS update you needed to have 3 Priests around the PC to assure that nothing will brick.

ohh, what times. Compare to that, dell bios updates are a peaceful ride.

 

[The Point and Shoot Pro]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

DELL Bios updates are more a pain than a saver.

We disabled BIOS updates in over 250+ laptops at work, we update twice a year.

Happy that actually solved something, dont get too much trust with dell. If works, dont touch it.

Right on, This was the first issue I have ever experienced with Dell and their Bios updates. Always previously it was just security stuff and chipset updates that worked fine. My experience has been great with dell for years.

I'm from the time that to do a BIOS update you needed to have 3 Priests around the PC to assure that nothing will brick.

ohh, what times. Compare to that, dell bios updates are a peaceful ride.

I am from the same era! ha ha.

 

[bridge77]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

So why did you "update" to begin with?

If a bios update can totally change the computer's behaviour like that, i'd stop buying Dell computers altogether.

Every manufacturer sends out duds at times. No one is immune to screw ups. Apple, Asus, Lenovo are fire duds.

I update my systems to the newest bios consistently to keep them up to date. This is the first time their bios messed with a machine I owned in the many many years of owning dells. They were always fine. So, I think thats a great record. More than I can say for some of the wonderful junk other PC / Mac producers have done that completely bricked their systems.

thanks, i have 4 Dell computers at home, one is a desk top.

haven't noticed anything from Bios updates at all.

in the past i didn't do Bios updates cause i figured that would Brick my computer in some way, now they say the chances of that are small.

currently i am back to updating my Bios and hoping for the best. prolly best to not do it all the same day.

i don't have a battery backup on my desktop currently so it is a bit scary to do. sometimes the power goes out here and there.

eh, could be a way to Brick a computer if the power goes out on a desktop Bios update?

anyone know?

thanks.

 

[MummRa]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

So why did you "update" to begin with?

If a bios update can totally change the computer's behaviour like that, i'd stop buying Dell computers altogether.

Every manufacturer sends out duds at times. No one is immune to screw ups. Apple, Asus, Lenovo are fire duds.

I update my systems to the newest bios consistently to keep them up to date. This is the first time their bios messed with a machine I owned in the many many years of owning dells. They were always fine. So, I think thats a great record. More than I can say for some of the wonderful junk other PC / Mac producers have done that completely bricked their systems.

thanks, i have 4 Dell computers at home, one is a desk top.

haven't noticed anything from Bios updates at all.

in the past i didn't do Bios updates cause i figured that would Brick my computer in some way, now they say the chances of that are small.

currently i am back to updating my Bios and hoping for the best. prolly best to not do it all the same day.

i don't have a battery backup on my desktop currently so it is a bit scary to do. sometimes the power goes out here and there.

eh, could be a way to Brick a computer if the power goes out on a desktop Bios update?

anyone know?

thanks.

New motherboards have 2 BIOS chips, you can't brick them anymore. If the install fails the pc will boot in the secondary one.

Edit: some motherboards will recover the info from the backup chip (read only) and overwrite the failed update.

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Quien te quita lo bailado.

 

[bridge77]

The previous Bios update screwed up so many things. Slow performance, fan going all the time, battery lasting no time at all. Did the new Bios update this morning and my notebook is back to fast. Like it was previously. I can't wait to try some photo editing again. Should be much faster now.

So why did you "update" to begin with?

If a bios update can totally change the computer's behaviour like that, i'd stop buying Dell computers altogether.

Every manufacturer sends out duds at times. No one is immune to screw ups. Apple, Asus, Lenovo are fire duds.

I update my systems to the newest bios consistently to keep them up to date. This is the first time their bios messed with a machine I owned in the many many years of owning dells. They were always fine. So, I think thats a great record. More than I can say for some of the wonderful junk other PC / Mac producers have done that completely bricked their systems.

thanks, i have 4 Dell computers at home, one is a desk top.

haven't noticed anything from Bios updates at all.

in the past i didn't do Bios updates cause i figured that would Brick my computer in some way, now they say the chances of that are small.

currently i am back to updating my Bios and hoping for the best. prolly best to not do it all the same day.

i don't have a battery backup on my desktop currently so it is a bit scary to do. sometimes the power goes out here and there.

eh, could be a way to Brick a computer if the power goes out on a desktop Bios update?

anyone know?

thanks.

New motherboards have 2 BIOS chips, you can't brick them anymore. If the install fails the pc will boot in the secondary one.

Edit: some motherboards will recover the info from the backup chip (read only) and overwrite the failed update.

thanks what a releif

with the summer weather, the electric is not stable and i was worried about keeping machines up to date that have no stable electric.

i try to work those in on stable weather days and have succeeded so far.

it kind of got me wondering what's up with Dell, as i have so many of their machines and they work very good. we buy Refurbished dells for peanuts and save Boat Loads of cash. still good not to Brick them with a Bios issue.

with Coupons these Dells are close to free: https://www.dellrefurbished.com/coupons

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[Austinian]

with the summer weather, the electric is not stable and i was worried about keeping machines up to date that have no stable electric.

I'd suggest getting a UPS for desktops, especially if the power is unstable; a decent UPS will 'smooth out' the power as well as protect against short outages.

 

[bridge77]

with the summer weather, the electric is not stable and i was worried about keeping machines up to date that have no stable electric.

I'd suggest getting a UPS for desktops, especially if the power is unstable; a decent UPS will 'smooth out' the power as well as protect against short outages.

i have one, but need two of them.

my APC brand blew out, but they made it difficult to replace batteries now, so i have to find a new brand.

batteries are cheap but they want us to buy a new unit now.

the old ones were simple to replace. they do it to themselves, so us DIY types move on. i did that with the fruit company when they soldered in the ram et al on their machines.

when a company fights their customers, get on a Jet Plane and leave without discussing their scam

thanks.

 

[Austinian]

with the summer weather, the electric is not stable and i was worried about keeping machines up to date that have no stable electric.

I'd suggest getting a UPS for desktops, especially if the power is unstable; a decent UPS will 'smooth out' the power as well as protect against short outages.

i have one, but need two of them.

my APC brand blew out, but they made it difficult to replace batteries now, so i have to find a new brand.

I've had good luck with Cyberpower; the batteries on my CP1500AVRLCD got old enough that I decided to replace them before failure. Replacing them wasn't exactly easy but neither was it difficult.