X-S20 vs X-T50

[mahidoes]

I have a personal preference for the X-S20 as I haven't noticed a substantial improvement with the 40mp sensor that would justify the increased image size.

Moreover, I appreciate the customisation options on the X-S20, which allow me to have an independent ISO dial, a feature I find quite useful. In contrast, on the X-T50, I'm left with a film simulation dial, which is of little importance to me as I primarily shoot in RAW.

The only circumstance under which I might consider the X-T50 over the X-S20 is if the former offers significantly better focus accuracy, as this has been a recurring issue for me with Fujifilm cameras.

As per usual, please continue to highlight the points of comparison between these two cameras. The principal aspect I wish to discuss is the autofocus capability for still photography.

 

[max2331]

I switched from X-T30 and X-E4 to the X-S10 because of the IBIS. Would never go without anymore.

Was hoping for the X-T50 to be a nice replacement of my X-S10 by going back to classic controls. But with this price I will switch to the X-S20.

 

[biza43]

How can we discuss something that is not available yet? Apart from a few selected users/fuji ambassadors, no one else has used the camera.

The new film dial is the key point of the camera, as it differentiates it from the competition and places a popular feature right under your fingertips.

 

[max2331]

How can we discuss something that is not available yet? Apart from a few selected users/fuji ambassadors, no one else has used the camera.

The new film dial is the key point of the camera, as it differentiates it from the competition and places a popular feature right under your fingertips.

Features and specs: available

First reviews: available

price: available

Why should we not be able to discuss it?

 

[biza43]

How can we discuss something that is not available yet? Apart from a few selected users/fuji ambassadors, no one else has used the camera.

The new film dial is the key point of the camera, as it differentiates it from the competition and places a popular feature right under your fingertips.

Features and specs: available

First reviews: available

price: available

Why should we not be able to discuss it?

From the OP:

"The principal aspect I wish to discuss is the autofocus capability for still photography."

 

[mahidoes]

We can continue discussing as more details are revealed, provided that the thread does not become overwhelmed. Feel free to change your vote as we gain further insights.

 

[MJ_Photo38]

X-S20 is a complete no brainer for me. Camera seems simply better all around, besides sensor resolution.

 

[mahidoes]

Upon examining both printed images and downsized images on the screen, I found them to be quite similar. Personally, I believe that the 40mp sensor on the Fujifilm camera is an unnecessary use of storage space. However, I have not had the opportunity to print the photographs in a significantly enlarged format.

 

[beneix]

X-S20 is a complete no brainer for me. Camera seems simply better all around, besides sensor resolution.

And several reviewers have commented that the combination of the X-Processor 5 with the smaller sensor actually makes for better AF performance, so it will be interesting to see comparisons as the X-T50 starts being reviewed properly.

 

[MJ_Photo38]

Upon examining both printed images and downsized images on the screen, I found them to be quite similar. Personally, I believe that the 40mp sensor on the Fujifilm camera is an unnecessary use of storage space. However, I have not had the opportunity to print the photographs in a significantly enlarged format.

They seem to have the same back screen (minus the rotation mechanism which is different, tilt on X-T50 and ball joint on X-S20) and the same rather small EVF.

But the X-S20 seems to also have more customization options, an actually nicely designed grip, a larger battery and the 26MP sensor just makes sense to me in this kind of package (besides the considerably better video specs).

The X-T50 in comparison feels like a dumb-down X-T5 removing all the things that made the X-T5 great (great EVF, lots of buttons and dials, rugged and sealed, good grip upgrade, ect).

The very gimmicky film sim dial seems uncessary, especially if you can't repurpose it. It really feels like Fujifilm is feeding on the film sim hype that really gained some momentum with the X100V hype.

So yeah, X-S20 is a complete no brainer for me. Everything is either the same or better in the X-S20, and I have no interest in the 40MP sensor. 24/26Mp is more than detailed enough for me, and I'd ratehr get a faster shooting one with better video (didn't mention the X-S20's ability to add the cooling fan, which is actually useful unlike on the X-H2(S) which barely benefits from it)

 

[MJ_Photo38]

X-S20 is a complete no brainer for me. Camera seems simply better all around, besides sensor resolution.

And several reviewers have commented that the combination of the X-Processor 5 with the smaller sensor actually makes for better AF performance, so it will be interesting to see comparisons as the X-T50 starts being reviewed properly.

Hopefully the X-E5 uses the same combination as the X-S20, at a cheaper price compared to both the S20 and T50.

One can hope, I could really see the X-E taking the sub 1000 USD body spot left vacant by both the X-S and X-Tx0 series.

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[mahidoes]

Hopefully the X-E5 uses the same combination as the X-S20, at a cheaper price compared to both the S20 and T50.

One can hope, I could really see the X-E taking the sub 1000 USD body spot left vacant by both the X-S and X-Tx0 series.

X-E4 featured limited array of controls. Previously, I considered it to be excellent.

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[beneix]

They seem to have the same back screen (minus the rotation mechanism which is different, tilt on X-T50 and ball joint on X-S20)

According to DPReview, the tilt is only up/down, like on X-T30.

 

[MJ_Photo38]

Hopefully the X-E5 uses the same combination as the X-S20, at a cheaper price compared to both the S20 and T50.

One can hope, I could really see the X-E taking the sub 1000 USD body spot left vacant by both the X-S and X-Tx0 series.

X-E4 featured limited array of controls.

And Fuji got a lot of criticism over the very minimalistic control layout of the X-E4. Hopefully they got the message.

Previously, I considered it to be excellent.

The X-E3 was pretty nice, although the lack of D-Pad was a little odd. I wished the X100F or X-Pro 2's control layout didn't dissapear with the introduction of joysticks on smaller bodies

 

[io_bg]

As my X-T30 is 4 years old now I was looking forward to seeing what the next generation of mid-range cameras will offer.

The X-T50 would be the natural next step forward, however with such a hefty price increase I don't think it's worth it (the X-T5 is currently discounted and the difference between the two cameras is quite minimal). The additions of IBIS and better grip are nice, but the film sim dial won't be of any use to me, and I'm not interested in 40 mp (besides the lower base ISO).

Considering I don't mind operating a PASM dial, but want IBIS in my next camera and would prefer it to be 26 mp, the X-S20 appears to be a better choice for me. Many consider it a video-centric model but even though I don't shoot video a lot it looks like the better step up for me. Alternatively, I could look for a used X-T5 and live with the larger camera.

I have a personal preference for the X-S20 as I haven't noticed a substantial improvement with the 40mp sensor that would justify the increased image size.

Moreover, I appreciate the customisation options on the X-S20, which allow me to have an independent ISO dial, a feature I find quite useful. In contrast, on the X-T50, I'm left with a film simulation dial, which is of little importance to me as I primarily shoot in RAW.

The only circumstance under which I might consider the X-T50 over the X-S20 is if the former offers significantly better focus accuracy, as this has been a recurring issue for me with Fujifilm cameras.

As per usual, please continue to highlight the points of comparison between these two cameras. The principal aspect I wish to discuss is the autofocus capability for still photography.

 

[MJ_Photo38]

They seem to have the same back screen (minus the rotation mechanism which is different, tilt on X-T50 and ball joint on X-S20)

According to DPReview, the tilt is only up/down, like on X-T30.

Yup, no side tilt, that's reserved to the single digit X-T like I guess.

(also they mentionned 3 times int he DP Review article that the X-T5 can take the cooling fan accessory when it can clearly not, and that's for the X-H2(S) and X-S20 only, what's up with that? Didn't they proof read it?)

 

[Dryce]

How can we discuss something that is not available yet? Apart from a few selected users/fuji ambassadors, no one else has used the camera.

The new film dial is the key point of the camera, as it differentiates it from the competition and places a popular feature right under your fingertips.

I think your second paragraph kind of demonstrates the answer to the 'how' question in the first paragraph. :-D

 

[biza43]

Upon examining both printed images and downsized images on the screen, I found them to be quite similar. Personally, I believe that the 40mp sensor on the Fujifilm camera is an unnecessary use of storage space.

For you. In my case, I can see the advantage.

However, I have not had the opportunity to print the photographs in a significantly enlarged format.

 

[biza43]

Upon examining both printed images and downsized images on the screen, I found them to be quite similar. Personally, I believe that the 40mp sensor on the Fujifilm camera is an unnecessary use of storage space. However, I have not had the opportunity to print the photographs in a significantly enlarged format.

They seem to have the same back screen (minus the rotation mechanism which is different, tilt on X-T50 and ball joint on X-S20) and the same rather small EVF.

But the X-S20 seems to also have more customization options, an actually nicely designed grip, a larger battery and the 26MP sensor just makes sense to me in this kind of package (besides the considerably better video specs).

The X-T50 in comparison feels like a dumb-down X-T5 removing all the things that made the X-T5 great (great EVF, lots of buttons and dials, rugged and sealed, good grip upgrade, ect).

The XT-XX series has always been a lower version of the XT-X series. It is called market segmentation. Want those features? By into the next segment up.

The very gimmicky film sim dial seems uncessary, especially if you can't repurpose it. It really feels like Fujifilm is feeding on the film sim hype that really gained some momentum with the X100V hype.

Fuji film simulations have been a strong feature since the X system came up more than 10 years ago. It is not a hype, and it is not new. It is a feature that differentiates Fuji from other camera makers. So it is only natural that Fuji tries to benefit from it by introducing a dedicated dial.

So yeah, X-S20 is a complete no brainer for me. Everything is either the same or better in the X-S20, and I have no interest in the 40MP sensor. 24/26Mp is more than detailed enough for me, and I'd ratehr get a faster shooting one with better video (didn't mention the X-S20's ability to add the cooling fan, which is actually useful unlike on the X-H2(S) which barely benefits from it)

To each his/her own. I don't shoot video, so I don't value those features you mention. It's good to have choices.

The only think that seems strange to me is why Fuji did not put the new battery in the XT-50.

 

[biza43]

How can we discuss something that is not available yet? Apart from a few selected users/fuji ambassadors, no one else has used the camera.

The new film dial is the key point of the camera, as it differentiates it from the competition and places a popular feature right under your fingertips.

I think your second paragraph kind of demonstrates the answer to the 'how' question in the first paragraph. :-D

By "something" I was referring to the OP's suggestion to discuss AF-S performance. A dial is an obvious feature.