I haven't seen this mentioned about the Zf before

[sandy b]

I saw a Nikon video where they described the Zf as having the best low light AF of any Nikon camera available. I Googled it, and sure enough found another reference for "AF Detection Down to -10 EV".

Eye AF for manual focus is also a Zf exclusive.

Af based on Z8 and 9.

30 FPS shooting.

Waterproof build.

Internal 4k30. The video function is top notch at this price point.

Does anyone else get the impression that Nikon threw the kitchen sink at this camera and for under 2 grand in America? The Df was $2750 at launch. I had no intention of buying this camera prior to launch. Not I'm not sure i can afford not to.

 

[Fazal Majid]

The best as in the same as the Z9/Z8. The headline figure of -10EV is only applicable with a f/1.2 lens.

Beneath the retro look, it is a very capable camera indeed, and the pricing is keen.

 

[Mikspin]

Being a satisfied Z8 user, at first no, I was not interested in the ZF. However, Yes, the low light limit and improved high ISO noice reduction algorithms, caught my fancy. So much so that I preordered one. The boys in a previous thread , arguing (why no new Z flash) should consider this new direction that Nikon is taking. With this new in camera, lowlight autofocus ability, and high ISO noise canceling maybe the FLASH is on the way out too, along with the DSLR. Mike

 

[Virtual Photon]

I saw a Nikon video where they described the Zf as having the best low light AF of any Nikon camera available. I Googled it, and sure enough found another reference for "AF Detection Down to -10 EV".

I believe this is using an f1.2 lens (50 f1.2, 85 f1.2). Still, impressive.

Eye AF for manual focus is also a Zf exclusive.

As a manual focus shooter, this is a very welcome feature.

Af based on Z8 and 9.

30 FPS shooting.

jpeg only. I believe that shooting raw is 11 fps.

Waterproof build.

I'm not sure Nikon claims it is 'waterproof' 'Weather sealed' might be more accurate

Internal 4k30. The video function is top notch at this price point.

Does anyone else get the impression that Nikon threw the kitchen sink at this camera and for under 2 grand in America? The Df was $2750 at launch. I had no intention of buying this camera prior to launch. Not I'm not sure i can afford not to.

You also forgot 8 stop IBIS.

But I agree that it is a great set of features at the $2K price point.

 

[WWeber]

Since the Zf has the same processor as the Z8 -and Z9, I thing both will get this features by a FW update too.

 

[Virtual Photon]

Being a satisfied Z8 user, at first no, I was not interested in the ZF. However, Yes, the low light limit and improved high ISO noice reduction algorithms, caught my fancy. So much so that I preordered one. The boys in a previous thread , arguing (why no new Z flash) should consider this new direction that Nikon is taking. With this new in camera, lowlight autofocus ability, and high ISO noise canceling maybe the FLASH is on the way out too, along with the DSLR. Mike

Where's you see 'improved high ISO noise reduction algorithms'?

Do you mean the 'selective noise processing?'

 

[Laqup]

Internal 4k30. The video function is top notch at this price point.

The ZF is capable for sure, but for video I see nothing special. Take a look at the R8 or R6 or R6 II. There you will find better video capabilities.

 

[skyrunr]

The ZF is capable for sure, but for video I see nothing special. Take a look at the R8 or R6 or R6 II. There you will find better video capabilities.

As nice as the Canon's are... I think the ZF fills and leaves quite a gap in the Nikon lineup. The R8 didn't hold up against my A7C's (worst in class is better than none) IBIS, and the R7 didn't best my Z50 when it comes to image quality; JPG's using Lightroom anyway. As nice as Canon's kit lens is, Nikon's kits (purchased used open-box) are a better value.

I should like Canon's a lot more than I do. I think they have the best EVF's and overall shooting experience. The R8 was SUPER comfortable in my hands.

• I don't appreciate their power button and rear-dial experiments.
  • The double click to ON drove me crazy.
  • If you wanted an APS-C and FX body they aren't going to match.
• I don't like the new RF (and EF's) mount's one-way lens caps compared to Nikon's.
  • Sony's are too loose.
• The R8's lack of IBIS is a deal breaker shooting indoors at 1/30th.
• Canon buttons are REALLY small and lack the tactile feel/differentiation of Nikon's buttons.

It is unfortunate that the ship date got bumped! I really wanted to compare the A7CII and ZF two side-by-side. October/Fall/Halloween is a great photo opportunity month for me.

 

[sandy b]

How many of those are sub $2000?

 

[MrHollywood]

Internal 4k30. The video function is top notch at this price point.

The ZF is capable for sure, but for video I see nothing special. Take a look at the R8 or R6 or R6 II. There you will find better video capabilities.

Not sure what you're saying here. The Zf has excellent video period.

Robert

 

[Laqup]

How many of those are sub $2000?

2/3 with the r6 II not being much more expensive than the R6 II, at least in my country.

 

[Laqup]

Internal 4k30. The video function is top notch at this price point.

The ZF is capable for sure, but for video I see nothing special. Take a look at the R8 or R6 or R6 II. There you will find better video capabilities.

Not sure what you're saying here. The Zf has excellent video period.

Robert

We get it, you are a Zf superfan. Nothing wrong with that, it's just that the video specs are nothing to write home about and clearly not "top notch". Sorry if you fail to see that. Crop in 4k60 and a relaitvely slow sensor is not the dream combo for video as your TWO Z9s are.

 

[Chuck Yadmark]

maybe the FLASH is on the way out too, along with the DSLR.

getting the subject exposed is only one of many reasons to use a flash, creating highlighting, lessening shadows, fighting backlight I find to be much more important functions.

 

[skyrunr]

maybe the FLASH is on the way out too, along with the DSLR.

getting the subject exposed is only one of many reasons to use a flash, creating highlighting, lessening shadows, fighting backlight I find to be much more important functions.

Yes and no. I've mostly converted to constant lighting and a little goes a long way.

I'd still like to see a warm LED option on ALL cameras. Just make the Nikon text light up, and that would be a great party trick! It is just nice to have when you're shooting into the sun, in no light, to wash out a background with faster exposure, or anywhere you'd like more vivid colors.

 

[BGD300V1]

Just make the Nikon text light up, and that would be a great party trick!

That would be a neat trick.

 

[SecondTimeAround]

maybe the FLASH is on the way out too, along with the DSLR.

getting the subject exposed is only one of many reasons to use a flash, creating highlighting, lessening shadows, fighting backlight I find to be much more important functions.

Absolutely. I use flash outdoors in good light more than in low light situations.

 

[BackToNature1]

Af based on Z8 and 9.

30 FPS shooting.

jpeg only. I believe that shooting raw is 11 fps.

"Nail the decisive moment with 14 fps continuous shooting using the Z f’s mechanical shutter, which has been tested to 200,000 cycles, or activate C30+ for up to 30 fps using the silent electronic shutter."

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/z-f.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-Overview

 

[michaeladawson]

Eye AF for manual focus is also a Zf exclusive.

As a manual focus shooter, this is a very welcome feature.

That's a bit of a contradiction. If you're in manual focus how do you get eye auto-focus? Perhaps you meant eye detection?

 

[MrHollywood]

Internal 4k30. The video function is top notch at this price point.

The ZF is capable for sure, but for video I see nothing special. Take a look at the R8 or R6 or R6 II. There you will find better video capabilities.

Not sure what you're saying here. The Zf has excellent video period.

Robert

We get it, you are a Zf superfan. Nothing wrong with that, it's just that the video specs are nothing to write home about and clearly not "top notch". Sorry if you fail to see that. Crop in 4k60 and a relaitvely slow sensor is not the dream combo for video as your TWO Z9s are.

I don't use these cameras for anything but pro studio applications, so 4K60 is not a factor for us. 4K 24FPS is all that matters in movie production. We use all of our hybrids side-by-side with pro cinema gear. The Sony A1 was a favorite until the Z9 came along. Both are amazing cameras.

That said, I get shooting the 60fps spec for sports and my friend just completed a documentary using that spec. So yes, you're right, there are better picks if you need that. Frankly I wouldn't use anything you listed either. But I think the Zf specs overall are pretty darn good and I haven't seen anyone cry about it thus far given the price point.

I won't be a superfan until I actually get mine and evaluate it, but it seems like Nikon did a heck of a job. ;-)

Robert

 

[primeshooter]

I saw a Nikon video where they described the Zf as having the best low light AF of any Nikon camera available. I Googled it, and sure enough found another reference for "AF Detection Down to -10 EV".

Eye AF for manual focus is also a Zf exclusive.

Af based on Z8 and 9.

30 FPS shooting.

Waterproof build.

Internal 4k30. The video function is top notch at this price point.

Does anyone else get the impression that Nikon threw the kitchen sink at this camera and for under 2 grand in America? The Df was $2750 at launch. I had no intention of buying this camera prior to launch. Not I'm not sure i can afford not to.

It's easy to get caught up in hype. As the first reply states its the same as the Z 8.

At the end of the day it is just another camera offering. You have to decide if you actually need it. Believe me you can afford not to buy it. ;-) It is marketing 101 to make people believe they can't exist without a product.