RF 28mm and Eos R100 coming soon

[justmeMN]

where there's smoke, there's fire

Sometimes where there's smoke, it's just a clickbait smoke bomb.

 

[Fjzk]

where there's smoke, there's fire

Sometimes where there's smoke, it's just a clickbait smoke bomb.

Indeed but if a full frame 28mm pancake lens is actually released by Canon my RP will leave the shelf much more often than today…it’s the ideal focal length for a walk-around prime lens in my opinion (24 too wide, 35 too tight). Don’t care if the edges are soft at 2.8, if they are reasonably sharp at 5.6 and the price is $299 it’s a no brainer (for my needs).

 

[RLight]

I did look at nokishita cameras website today and found nothing about Canon from later than mid-2020. Is there another, current nokishita that Google don't know about?

The DigiCam-Info.com site has for some time been picking up posts/rumors from some unnamed forum where a user has been posting "nokishita-like" information about soon to be released products.

This also includes R100 and FR28mm. Google translations:

https://digicame--info-com.translat....html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=auto

https://digicame--info-com.translat....html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=auto

DC is usually accurate, and I saw that. They're referencing a “forum” here, presumably juzzphoto.

DC on the other hand does seem to have a source in the chain, usually when DC leaks something Canon, it shows up in less than a week. However all of DCs former chain leaks have the full sku. This one smells fishy, this one doesn’t.

Now the fact that DC is reporting it gives this weight. They may know something we don’t via that source in the chain, but a referencing a forum to deflect sourcing.

 

[Stig Nygaard]

DC is usually accurate, and I saw that. They're referencing a “forum” here, presumably juzzphoto.

Of course I cannot say for sure, but I am of the impression that they usually refer to some Chinese or Japanese forum when they say (google translated) "The source is a certain gigantic bulletin board, and the poster is likely to be that same person.". And the user they refer to is assumed to be the same as the old "Nokishita", though they probably never have got that confirmed. DC has posted and cited snippets from product- and price-lists like this for a long period (since shortly after "Nokishita" dissapeared from Twitter). For example also for RF100-300mm back in April:

https://digicame--info-com.translat....html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=auto

DC was the first place I saw the rumor. But I have never heard about Juza or Juzaphoto before

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[Borami]

RF 28mm f2.8 is an instant buy for me. Love this FL over 35mm. Smaller the better and if all RF lenses I have are indications it’ll be more than good. It would be nice if IS was added to it but small size is already plenty attractive. EF version is close to being perfect except it’s quite large with the adapter. It would make 16/28 duo for my R as the mainstay along with 100-400 occasionally.

 

[Canon_Guy]

where there's smoke, there's fire

Sometimes where there's smoke, it's just a clickbait smoke bomb.

Indeed but if a full frame 28mm pancake lens is actually released by Canon my RP will leave the shelf much more often than today…it’s the ideal focal length for a walk-around prime lens in my opinion (24 too wide, 35 too tight). Don’t care if the edges are soft at 2.8, if they are reasonably sharp at 5.6 and the price is $299 it’s a no brainer (for my needs).

 

[lightstrum]

Love 28mm. On the R5 I use 28 ef 2.8 is and sigma 28 1.4, and CY f2 Hollywood, all work great with the nd and .71, and reg ef to rf adapters. i also use the 28mm 5.6 TT Artisan with an M to RF helicoid, it is tiny and makes a great daytime walk around the city taped up R5 point and shoot. I would love a 28 RF the size of the 16. Would die for an 28 Rf 1.2.

 

[PicPocket]

It is inconceivable and illogical that Canon does not produce new APS-C lenses. Only bodies and only boring and dark lenses. The rf-s 22 would sell quite well. Even a UWA Rf-S 11-22 could have many sales, but Canon seems deaf and blind. Many would buy them for their travels, releasing them after the summer makes little sense and reduces the profit margin.

You don't need to imagine it, it's what's actually happening. Canon, like Nikon, doesn't have the interest in APS-C lenses that Fujifilm have, because fast, interesting APS-C lenses will have a hard time competing on price, performance and size with slow and f/4 full-frame lenses.

Wait, I've heard this argument somewhere before. Let me try to recall...

Oh yes, this was the same reasoning floating around these same forums for the viability of R mount crop format camera bodies. At one point it was already too late to conclude they won't ever make it... until they did. I didn't see anyone come back and say - oops, I was wrong to say what Canon will and will not do, because I had no way of knowing

We don't know if Canon will make them. We don't know if Canon will make them in 2023, or 2024 or maybe even later. The important thing is "we don't know" and speaking on behalf of Canon when we don't know doesn't somehow make us know

I think the only credible thing from this conversation is that there seems to be some demand for those APSC lenses. That's great and I hope Canon is finding the same from their broader market research

 

[PicPocket]

Canon, like Nikon, doesn't have the interest in APS-C lenses that Fujifilm have, because fast, interesting APS-C lenses will have a hard time competing on price, performance and size with slow and f/4 full-frame lenses.

Fujifilm doesn't make FF cameras, so they are required to "be serious" about APS-C. Canon and Nikon, not so much.

In other words, they don't have that other job. Doesn't mean those with 2 sets of priorities won't focus on both. Yes, it does bring prioritization into the mix and unless there are unlimited resources, that can slow things down a bit

 

[JoWinter]

https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/rf28mm-f2-8-stm

It's sooo cute! :-D

 

[Ali]

What would they shave off the R50 for an even cheaper model? R50 already lacks IBIS, mechanical shutter, and some physical controls.

Subject detect AF? That seems unlikely.

Megapixels? I doubt that.

Reduce burst capabilities even further? Maybe...

No viewfinder, for a smaller body? That would imply a non-DSLR form factor, maybe like an M. An even smaller body could be interesting, but not (to me at least) if they continue to remove even more features...

How else would they achieve a lower price point?

So, fixed screen, no touch, DIGIC 8 for reduced AF and burst capabilities, and one fewer button … Interesting how Canon managed to produce even a less expensive , lower end camera.

 

[thunder storm]

Nokishita has revealed the imminent arrival of R100 and Rf 28mm

https://www.juzaphoto.com/topic2.php?l=it&t=4535920

https://www.juzaphoto.com/topic2.php?l=it&t=4535904

The RF 24mm stm is f/1.8 whereas this 28mm is f/2.8. Maybe it's a pancake. Maybe it has close to zero distortion. Most likely it's the budget option, so it will suffer from distortion.

The Canon EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM has -1.57%, and stabilization as well

The Sigma 28mm f/1.4 Art has −0.86%, but it's big and heavy.

IBIS can do the stabilization for me. It's not unusual to stop down at 28mm anyway so f/2.8 is fine. A compact but non distorted 28mm would be nice.

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amateurphotographer.com

The lens achieves its diminutive dimensions by using an innovative design. It employs 8 elements in 6 groups, with a tiny front element but three dramatically larger lenses towards the back. Not only do these employ highly aspherical profiles, they’re also cut to a rectangular shape to allow them to fit inside the mount section.

Its a pancake, but if it uses the space efficiently that could be a good thing for IQ.

That switch is a bit smarter than the other budget RF stm lenses as well.

 

[drsnoopy]

https://amateurphotographer.com/latest/photo-news/canon-rf-28mm-f2-8-stm-pancake-lens-released/

The lens achieves its diminutive dimensions by using an innovative design. It employs 8 elements in 6 groups, with a tiny front element but three dramatically larger lenses towards the back. Not only do these employ highly aspherical profiles, they’re also cut to a rectangular shape to allow them to fit inside the mount section.

Its a pancake, but if it uses the space efficiently that could be a good thing for IQ.

That switch is a bit smarter than the other budget RF stm lenses as well.

 

[drsnoopy]

https://amateurphotographer.com/latest/photo-news/canon-rf-28mm-f2-8-stm-pancake-lens-released/

The lens achieves its diminutive dimensions by using an innovative design. It employs 8 elements in 6 groups, with a tiny front element but three dramatically larger lenses towards the back. Not only do these employ highly aspherical profiles, they’re also cut to a rectangular shape to allow them to fit inside the mount section.

Its a pancake, but if it uses the space efficiently that could be a good thing for IQ.

That switch is a bit smarter than the other budget RF stm lenses as well.

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Thanks for that link - so no longer a rumour. Looks like a great companion for an R8 or RP. It will be interesting to see what the UK street price is, because £349 is higher than the rumoured $299.

 

[Greaves]

£670 for the kit with the RF-S 18-45

 

[thunder storm]

https://amateurphotographer.com/latest/photo-news/canon-rf-28mm-f2-8-stm-pancake-lens-released/

The lens achieves its diminutive dimensions by using an innovative design. It employs 8 elements in 6 groups, with a tiny front element but three dramatically larger lenses towards the back. Not only do these employ highly aspherical profiles, they’re also cut to a rectangular shape to allow them to fit inside the mount section.

Its a pancake, but if it uses the space efficiently that could be a good thing for IQ.

That switch is a bit smarter than the other budget RF stm lenses as well.

Thanks for that link - so no longer a rumour. Looks like a great companion for an R8 or RP.

I think for other bodies as well. At 28mm IBIS can do the job for stabilization.

It will be interesting to see what the UK price is.

I want to see some reviews on IQ first. If it's any good I really need to make that long list of my lenses covering 28mm and hope I'm not creative enough to find an excuse to buy yet another lens.

 

[Fjzk]

What would they shave off the R50 for an even cheaper model? R50 already lacks IBIS, mechanical shutter, and some physical controls.

Subject detect AF? That seems unlikely.

Megapixels? I doubt that.

Reduce burst capabilities even further? Maybe...

No viewfinder, for a smaller body? That would imply a non-DSLR form factor, maybe like an M. An even smaller body could be interesting, but not (to me at least) if they continue to remove even more features...

How else would they achieve a lower price point?

So, fixed screen, no touch, DIGIC 8 for reduced AF and burst capabilities, and one fewer button … Interesting how Canon managed to produce even a less expensive , lower end camera.

Fixed screen in 2023! Isn’t it a vlogger’s world now?

 

[JustUs7]

That switch is a bit smarter than the other budget RF stm lenses as well.

Now we know what all the Mark II versions of the various consumer grade lenses will have.

 

[JustUs7]

https://amateurphotographer.com/latest/photo-news/canon-rf-28mm-f2-8-stm-pancake-lens-released/

The lens achieves its diminutive dimensions by using an innovative design. It employs 8 elements in 6 groups, with a tiny front element but three dramatically larger lenses towards the back. Not only do these employ highly aspherical profiles, they’re also cut to a rectangular shape to allow them to fit inside the mount section.

Its a pancake, but if it uses the space efficiently that could be a good thing for IQ.

That switch is a bit smarter than the other budget RF stm lenses as well.

Thanks for that link - so no longer a rumour. Looks like a great companion for an R8 or RP.

I think for other bodies as well. At 28mm IBIS can do the job for stabilization.

It will be interesting to see what the UK price is.

I want to see some reviews on IQ first. If it's any good I really need to make that long list of my lenses covering 28mm and hope I'm not creative enough to find an excuse to buy yet another lens.

It appears to be fixed aperture per usa.canon.com

https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/rf28mm-f2-8-stm?color=Black&type=New

f/2.8 listed as the minimum and maximum aperture. But it also says 7 aperture blades, so that’s inconsistent.

 

[thunder storm]

That switch is a bit smarter than the other budget RF stm lenses as well.

Now we know what all the Mark II versions of the various consumer grade lenses will have.

+1 :-D