TT Artisans 25mm f2 for $55

[Michael Houston]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

 

[BBbuilder467]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

It's not much different than using manual focus with the AF lens you have at the same focal length.

 

[Peter Del]

According to the comments here

Just announced: New TTArtisan 25mm f/2.0 MFT lens for just $55 – 43 Rumors

www.43rumors.com

it is an APS-C lens, so it will be 27.5mm

Peter Del

 

[kalisti]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

I've been thinking of the 50mm f/1.2 they make, looks really stunning for $100 odd, in contrast to the Zhongyi Mitakon Speedmaster 17mm f/0.95 which seems similarly as stunning, but cost $300-$500.

I think they have a few well received lenses, but they also have a few stinkers XD

Not everyones taste, but as far as I can see his lens experience is not matched.

He has a few other manual lenses reviews, none for mft, but like the one above available in mft mount too.

I dont own any yet, but with my AF lenses on linear response and peaking turned on, MF seems pretty easy overall.

 

[gabruzzi]

According to the comments here

https://www.43rumors.com/just-announced-new-ttartisan-25mm-f-2-0-mft-lens-for-just-55/#disqus_thread

it is an APS-C lens, so it will be 27.5mm

Peter Del

no, focal length is focal length. it doesn't change with the size of the sensor. what changes is the 35mm/full frame equivalent.

EDIT: sorry, I realized my post was a little short and witout explanation--here is a little more: the focal length of a lens never changes unless you change the design or position of the elements of the lens (like a zoom lens.) "effective focal length" is this really annoying thing that came about because of 50 years of domination of 35mm cameras. everyone knew what a 50mm was so you didn't have to say it was a slightly long normal. When digital started coming out there weren't full frame cameras so manufacturers started saying that this 6.3mm lens was a 50mm equivalent, since everyone knew what that meant. that has stuck with us, and its annoying because it isn't well explained and confuses lot of people (don't take offense, lots of people misunderstand this.) so a 25mm lens on m43 is equivalent to 50mm on 35mm, and the same lense on APS-C is equivalent to a 37.5mm lens on 35mm (unless its canon APS-C)

 

[Peter Del]

According to the comments here

https://www.43rumors.com/just-announced-new-ttartisan-25mm-f-2-0-mft-lens-for-just-55/#disqus_thread

it is an APS-C lens, so it will be 27.5mm

Peter Del

no, focal length is focal length. it doesn't change with the size of the sensor. what changes is the 35mm/full frame equivalent.

EDIT: sorry, I realized my post was a little short and witout explanation--here is a little more: the focal length of a lens never changes unless you change the design or position of the elements of the lens (like a zoom lens.) "effective focal length" is this really annoying thing that came about because of 50 years of domination of 35mm cameras. everyone knew what a 50mm was so you didn't have to say it was a slightly long normal. When digital started coming out there weren't full frame cameras so manufacturers started saying that this 6.3mm lens was a 50mm equivalent, since everyone knew what that meant. that has stuck with us, and its annoying because it isn't well explained and confuses lot of people (don't take offense, lots of people misunderstand this.) so a 25mm lens on m43 is equivalent to 50mm on 35mm, and the same lense on APS-C is equivalent to a 37.5mm lens on 35mm (unless its canon APS-C)

Oops, I meant to write 37.5

 

[Tim Reidy Productions]

you can get lots of mf lens primes in the 50-100 USD range, I would get the ones that worked for your focal length choice first and not be too picky if one is 50 usd over a 70 usd one.

There are some advantages to mf but mostly with changing aperture if you can away it, and I did use a 17mm and 55mm manual today.

 

[Bruce M.]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

I've been thinking of the 50mm f/1.2 they make, looks really stunning for $100 odd, in contrast to the Zhongyi Mitakon Speedmaster 17mm f/0.95 which seems similarly as stunning, but cost $300-$500.

I just got my TTARTISAN 50mm 1.2 lens and highly recommend it for it's ridiculous $109 US price.

Its beautifully built with nice focus and aperture response. And optically I find it's remarkable even at 1.2. Nice sharpness, good color and nice contrast in neutral light. It blooms highlights in bright contrast but surprisingly gracefully.

And it works really well manual focus on my GX85/GX9 with peaking set to low and 8X punch in with two button sequence press.

And rainbowimaging on eBay sells a 52mm short lens hood which looks designed for the 1.2 and comes with a neat 58mm snap on shade cap for $6.50 shipped (USA).

Great addition to any kit.

 

[LeicaEye]

I use a TTARTISANS 50mm f2 on my CL. Great value, great IQ.. ($90)… L

 

[kalisti]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

I've been thinking of the 50mm f/1.2 they make, looks really stunning for $100 odd, in contrast to the Zhongyi Mitakon Speedmaster 17mm f/0.95 which seems similarly as stunning, but cost $300-$500.

I just got my TTARTISAN 50mm 1.2 lens and highly recommend it for it's ridiculous $109 US price.

Its beautifully built with nice focus and aperture response. And optically I find it's remarkable even at 1.2. Nice sharpness, good color and nice contrast in neutral light. It blooms highlights in bright contrast but surprisingly gracefully.

And it works really well manual focus on my GX85/GX9 with peaking set to low and 8X punch in with two button sequence press.

Great addition to any kit.

I saw someone on youtube using the sony aps-c version for portraits, it blew me away.

That and the Mitakon 17mm I think might be my two favourite rendering lenses on mft.

I'm glad to hear a positive review from an mft user, thank you!

the mitakon in video, some really nice shots in between the talking

the TTARTISAN 50mm f/1.2 for portraits (sony aps-c)

 

[Bruce M.]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

I've been thinking of the 50mm f/1.2 they make, looks really stunning for $100 odd, in contrast to the Zhongyi Mitakon Speedmaster 17mm f/0.95 which seems similarly as stunning, but cost $300-$500.

I just got my TTARTISAN 50mm 1.2 lens and highly recommend it for it's ridiculous $109 US price.

Its beautifully built with nice focus and aperture response. And optically I find it's remarkable even at 1.2. Nice sharpness, good color and nice contrast in neutral light. It blooms highlights in bright contrast but surprisingly gracefully.

And it works really well manual focus on my GX85/GX9 with peaking set to low and 8X punch in with two button sequence press.

And rainbowimaging on eBay sells a 52mm short lens hood which looks designed for the 1.2 and comes with a neat 58mm snap on shade cap for $6.50 shipped (USA).

Great addition to any kit.

Forgot to provide link to lens shade that arrived in 3 days:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2654357413...p7weQzyRTe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[LeicaEye]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

I've been thinking of the 50mm f/1.2 they make, looks really stunning for $100 odd, in contrast to the Zhongyi Mitakon Speedmaster 17mm f/0.95 which seems similarly as stunning, but cost $300-$500.

I just got my TTARTISAN 50mm 1.2 lens and highly recommend it for it's ridiculous $109 US price.

Its beautifully built with nice focus and aperture response. And optically I find it's remarkable even at 1.2. Nice sharpness, good color and nice contrast in neutral light. It blooms highlights in bright contrast but surprisingly gracefully.

And it works really well manual focus on my GX85/GX9 with peaking set to low and 8X punch in with two button sequence press.

And rainbowimaging on eBay sells a 52mm short lens hood which looks designed for the 1.2 and comes with a neat 58mm snap on shade cap for $6.50 shipped (USA).

Great addition to any kit.

Forgot to provide link to lens shade that arrived in 3 days:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2654357413...p7weQzyRTe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Mine arrived in a lovely box, with a filter and a lens hood.. Super Value.. L

 

[meow]

According to the comments here

https://www.43rumors.com/just-announced-new-ttartisan-25mm-f-2-0-mft-lens-for-just-55/#disqus_thread

it is an APS-C lens, so it will be 27.5mm

Peter Del

no, focal length is focal length. it doesn't change with the size of the sensor. what changes is the 35mm/full frame equivalent.

EDIT: sorry, I realized my post was a little short and witout explanation--here is a little more: the focal length of a lens never changes unless you change the design or position of the elements of the lens (like a zoom lens.) "effective focal length" is this really annoying thing that came about because of 50 years of domination of 35mm cameras. everyone knew what a 50mm was so you didn't have to say it was a slightly long normal. When digital started coming out there weren't full frame cameras so manufacturers started saying that this 6.3mm lens was a 50mm equivalent, since everyone knew what that meant. that has stuck with us, and its annoying because it isn't well explained and confuses lot of people (don't take offense, lots of people misunderstand this.) so a 25mm lens on m43 is equivalent to 50mm on 35mm, and the same lense on APS-C is equivalent to a 37.5mm lens on 35mm (unless its canon APS-C)

Oops, I meant to write 37.5

On an APS-C camera it's equivalent to a 37.5mm on a full frame camera. On an MFT camera it's equivalent to a 50mm on a full frame camera. But it is 25mm.

 

[Lepewhi]

I have a 7Artisans 1.8 that I picked up for somewhere in this price range. I'm still practicing focusing with it. That being said, I'm quite surprised at the quality for the price. Are there better lenses? Of course. But, for this price, hard to beat. You really can't go wrong.

 

[David]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

I own both the TTArtisan 17mm f/1.4 and the Samyang 7.5mm Fisheye, both are manual focus. It’s not a big deal to manually focus them as M43 gives you the ability to focus peak and magnify your focusing area to get more precise focus. The LUMIX implementation is slightly better, in my opinion, than the Olympus. I own both LUMIX and Olympus bodies.

Having said that, the reason the TTArtisan lenses are cheap is because, they are not clinically sharp compared to the Panasonic or Olympus 25mm version wide open though and usually, you have to stop it down to f/8 to get good sharpness. Lens flare is another issue with the TTArtisan lenses as they flare a lot if you shoot in direct sunlight. Otherwise, if you don’t mind a little bit of softness wide open and a bit of lens flare, I found that my own TTArtisan 17mm is a great deal for what it is. It does have its own color character though, a bit old school Zeiss Sonnar lens color rendering which is why I love my TTArtisan 17mm, not because it is 17mm, but because of the character itself gives to the photos.

 

[Peter Del]

According to the comments here

https://www.43rumors.com/just-announced-new-ttartisan-25mm-f-2-0-mft-lens-for-just-55/#disqus_thread

it is an APS-C lens, so it will be 27.5mm

Peter Del

no, focal length is focal length. it doesn't change with the size of the sensor. what changes is the 35mm/full frame equivalent.

EDIT: sorry, I realized my post was a little short and witout explanation--here is a little more: the focal length of a lens never changes unless you change the design or position of the elements of the lens (like a zoom lens.) "effective focal length" is this really annoying thing that came about because of 50 years of domination of 35mm cameras. everyone knew what a 50mm was so you didn't have to say it was a slightly long normal. When digital started coming out there weren't full frame cameras so manufacturers started saying that this 6.3mm lens was a 50mm equivalent, since everyone knew what that meant. that has stuck with us, and its annoying because it isn't well explained and confuses lot of people (don't take offense, lots of people misunderstand this.) so a 25mm lens on m43 is equivalent to 50mm on 35mm, and the same lense on APS-C is equivalent to a 37.5mm lens on 35mm (unless its canon APS-C)

Oops, I meant to write 37.5

On an APS-C camera it's equivalent to a 37.5mm on a full frame camera. On an MFT camera it's equivalent to a 50mm on a full frame camera. But it is 25mm.

I'm no expert, but if one puts a lens that covers an APS-C sensor on M43 then only a part of its image circle is being used, so acting as a 37.5 lens. So I must be correct.

Peter Del

 

[meow]

I don't own any mf lenses, but this is almost too tempting to pass up. How big of a deal is manual focus in M43-land?? GX85, if that matters...

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-25mm-f2

I own both the TTArtisan 17mm f/1.4 and the Samyang 7.5mm Fisheye, both are manual focus. It’s not a big deal to manually focus them as M43 gives you the ability to focus peak and magnify your focusing area to get more precise focus. The LUMIX implementation is slightly better, in my opinion, than the Olympus. I own both LUMIX and Olympus bodies.

Having said that, the reason the TTArtisan lenses are cheap is because, they are not clinically sharp compared to the Panasonic or Olympus 25mm version wide open though and usually, you have to stop it down to f/8 to get good sharpness. Lens flare is another issue with the TTArtisan lenses as they flare a lot if you shoot in direct sunlight. Otherwise, if you don’t mind a little bit of softness wide open and a bit of lens flare, I found that my own TTArtisan 17mm is a great deal for what it is. It does have its own color character though, a bit old school Zeiss Sonnar lens color rendering which is why I love my TTArtisan 17mm, not because it is 17mm, but because of the character itself gives to the photos.

Interesting. I don't have a TTArtisan lens but would love if they made something like a fast 25mm (or thereabout). I have the Laowa 7.5mm though. I've used a quite a lot this summer and have come to realize it also has it's own colour character which I've come to appreciate. It's also the sharpest lens I have (in the center, and a little stopped down it's good all over). And I compare to Oly Pro glass.

These Chinese lenses are interesting. I also have the 7artisans fish. It's more of a toy, not really sharp, at least not my specimen. I hear they can vary a lot. It was fun to play with and learn to defish, but mostly it led to I got sold on ultra wide and got the Laowa.

Since I like what I've seen from Laowa I had high hopes for their Argus fast lenses. But it turned out the ones for MFT are declicked while their FF ones have a switch so you can choose if you want clicks or not. Bummer. The 7artisans is declicked and I hate it. Have to carry a torch at night to see what aperture I use.

Which leads to a question. Do the TTArtisan MFT lenses have an aperture ring with click stops? I don't find anything about that at their site.

 

[Michael Houston]

Interesting. I don't have a TTArtisan lens but would love if they made something like a fast 25mm (or thereabout). I have the Laowa 7.5mm though. I've used a quite a lot this summer and have come to realize it also has it's own colour character which I've come to appreciate. It's also the sharpest lens I have (in the center, and a little stopped down it's good all over). And I compare to Oly Pro glass.

These Chinese lenses are interesting. I also have the 7artisans fish. It's more of a toy, not really sharp, at least not my specimen. I hear they can vary a lot. It was fun to play with and learn to defish, but mostly it led to I got sold on ultra wide and got the Laowa.

Since I like what I've seen from Laowa I had high hopes for their Argus fast lenses. But it turned out the ones for MFT are declicked while their FF ones have a switch so you can choose if you want clicks or not. Bummer. The 7artisans is declicked and I hate it. Have to carry a torch at night to see what aperture I use.

Which leads to a question. Do the TTArtisan MFT lenses have an aperture ring with click stops? I don't find anything about that at their site.

You're in luck! Here's a TTArtisan 23mm f1.4 - and it has click stops:

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-23mm-f1-4-black?variant=41389244448930

 

[meow]

Interesting. I don't have a TTArtisan lens but would love if they made something like a fast 25mm (or thereabout). I have the Laowa 7.5mm though. I've used a quite a lot this summer and have come to realize it also has it's own colour character which I've come to appreciate. It's also the sharpest lens I have (in the center, and a little stopped down it's good all over). And I compare to Oly Pro glass.

These Chinese lenses are interesting. I also have the 7artisans fish. It's more of a toy, not really sharp, at least not my specimen. I hear they can vary a lot. It was fun to play with and learn to defish, but mostly it led to I got sold on ultra wide and got the Laowa.

Since I like what I've seen from Laowa I had high hopes for their Argus fast lenses. But it turned out the ones for MFT are declicked while their FF ones have a switch so you can choose if you want clicks or not. Bummer. The 7artisans is declicked and I hate it. Have to carry a torch at night to see what aperture I use.

Which leads to a question. Do the TTArtisan MFT lenses have an aperture ring with click stops? I don't find anything about that at their site.

You're in luck! Here's a TTArtisan 23mm f1.4 - and it has click stops:

https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/aps-c-23mm-f1-4-black?variant=41389244448930

Yes, I've realized. I've read some reviews now and I've decided to buy this lens. If I get really into this focal length and the fast aperture but think it has shortcomings I can buy something better later. Hopefully I'll find it's good enough for a long time though.

 

[Impulses]

Looks interesting, M4/3 could use some more compact cheap wides but I'm not sure the market for this vs a 20/1.7 or 25/1.8 will be very substantial, I'm curious why Samyang hasn't ported the AF version of their excellent 12/2 tho... I bought the also very small TTArtisan 50/2 for my FF body and I'm pretty happy with it, that one was like $70.

I was pretty impressed with the build, for the money or otherwise, it's as good as my pricier Laowas (tho they're doing much more niche stuff, so apples and oranges outside of that); although it does focus externally w/unit focus (like the 20/1.7).