No mention of fixing or even acknowledging the erroneous detection of "Severe noise" for scenes with foliage/water/other texture, which continues to be a problem that makes this application unusable for me. I have reverted to using only Sharpen AI. Wake me up when this is addressed.
does deselecting 'remove noise' in PAI v0.10 apply NR to the textures?
I don't know, but will try it. In any case it takes away any advantage of "AI" if I have to overrule it most of the time. I just tried the new 0.10 version, and they have either added or changed "severe" to "high". Here is a scene with water and foliage that was shot at ISO 200 and processed in DXO PureRAW with DeepPRIME noise reduction. PhotoAI deemed it to have "high" noise level after DeepPRIME! This is what PAI saw:
OK, same image from ACR instead of PureRAW, no sharpening whatsoever. Same verdict from PAI: HIgh noise.
Are you and others here who find problems posting them to Topaz? This is a free beta so in order to get problems fixed you must tell Topaz. Telling me here on this forum is good, but won't let them know and maybe get the problems fixed.OK, same image from ACR instead of PureRAW, no sharpening whatsoever. Same verdict from PAI: HIgh noise.
YesAre you and others here who find problems posting them to Topaz? This is a free beta so in order to get problems fixed you must tell Topaz. Telling me here on this forum is good, but won't let them know and maybe get the problems fixed.OK, same image from ACR instead of PureRAW, no sharpening whatsoever. Same verdict from PAI: HIgh noise.
https://community.topazlabs.com/t/topaz-photo-ai-v0-10-0/34598/17
Well, isn't the purpose of "AI" applications to remove the human? Of course I can tweak the adjustments by Photo AI, but I thought the objective was for it to do the work by analyzing the photo. Otherwise what's the point? If Topaz can't do a better job than mistaking foliage for noise then they might as well pack it up.
I am satisfied if the "AI" gets me close to a final result faster and easier than doing it manually. In this particular case, I ran your unsharpened version through PAI on auto and in spite of the "high noise" detection, PAI did a credible job on the photo without blurring away detail with excessive noise reduction.
I think that is how we should see AI. It gets you quickly to a good result that you can fine tune to your taste.
I'm a fan of Topaz so tried as you did, only I found that it did burr the leaves and smoothed out the ripples a fair bit . I will add that I imported the photo to PSE and accessed PAI from there. I couldn't see any problem with the original photo and expected PAI to not apply any filters.
Exactly. PAI sees things that aren't there. It needs an Autopilot category "No processing needed". And, as some have noted, it doesn't always apply as much noise reduction as it indicates is needed, so it also needs to match its categorization to its actions.
I ran this photo into TAI as a standalone app. Perhaps that accounts for the difference?
Agreed, it looks pretty good. I also tried it as a standalone and got similar results; but it also stated that the noise was high, so it seems to be acting pretty much like the plug-in. Thanks for trying it.I ran this photo into TAI as a standalone app. Perhaps that accounts for the difference?
Here is the original:
Original
And here is the TAI version on auto:
Topaz AI
I compared all the ripples at 100% looking for blurred or missing ones, and didn't find any. In fact, it is a little oversharpened for my taste. I might have missed something, and I didn't look at all the leaves, so please let me know where the ripples appear blurred to you. I am using version 0.10.0 on Win 11.
Thanks, Henry.
