Re: Epson ET-8550 thicker papers

[Box Brownie]

I wonder if other users of the et-8550 could say if they have experienced the following?

With Epson papers gloss, Semi-Gloss and Heavy Weight Matt I have not noticed this....

I have some papers varying between 240gsm gloss to 310gsm Matt.

On the gloss and Semi-Gloss I have noticed one (possibly 2) witness mark lines along the print direction. It/they don't extend off the edges of the sheet but do make me wonder if it a feed roller leaving the marks? Note ~ the ink finish is fine, so maybe the rollers before the print head path are doing it.

On the 310gsm Matt I think the line is there but very much fainter compared to the other two papers. Though looking closely I can see slight scuffing of the ink in that area of the print...head 'hitting' the print surface?

Edit- this is on A4 and the line is approx an inch in from the LHS as viewed as the print appears.

Note ~ I see there is a thick paper setting in the printer settings, do perhaps that will mitigate what I am seeing on the thicker Matt paper.

Note ~ the printer is quite noisy when ingesting the papers through the rear feeder!

TIA for any user insights

 

[Gesture]

"they don't extend off the edges of the sheet"

What do you mean by that?

Have you tried printing with the straight through path?

Good luck.

 

[Box Brownie]

"they don't extend off the edges of the sheet"

What do you mean by that?

Have you tried printing with the straight through path?

Good luck.

What I was trying to describe was that the line starts and ends approx 2cm in from the ends of the sheet.

As for trying it via the 'posterboard thickness' rear path....... unfortunately I don't have the space to try it!

 

[olyflyer]

I wonder if other users of the et-8550 could say if they have experienced the following?

With Epson papers gloss, Semi-Gloss and Heavy Weight Matt I have not noticed this....

I have some papers varying between 240gsm gloss to 310gsm Matt.

On the gloss and Semi-Gloss I have noticed one (possibly 2) witness mark lines along the print direction. It/they don't extend off the edges of the sheet but do make me wonder if it a feed roller leaving the marks? Note ~ the ink finish is fine, so maybe the rollers before the print head path are doing it.

On the 310gsm Matt I think the line is there but very much fainter compared to the other two papers. Though looking closely I can see slight scuffing of the ink in that area of the print...head 'hitting' the print surface?

Edit- this is on A4 and the line is approx an inch in from the LHS as viewed as the print appears.

Note ~ I see there is a thick paper setting in the printer settings, do perhaps that will mitigate what I am seeing on the thicker Matt paper.

Note ~ the printer is quite noisy when ingesting the papers through the rear feeder!

TIA for any user insights

Have seen on Epson premium glossy paper (255gsm) which I keep in the 4x6 tray and use for test prints and family snaps. Very difficult to see, I can only see it if I look really hard and if the print is lit an a specific angle.

Have not seen on the same paper if I use the rear paper feeder, and never seen on Ilford galerie smooth pearl (310gsm) paper, but that is always fed through the rear feeder.

Not seen on any other paper (old HP and Kodak glossy, high glossy and semi matt) which I fed through the rear feeder.

 

[Box Brownie]

I wonder if other users of the et-8550 could say if they have experienced the following?

With Epson papers gloss, Semi-Gloss and Heavy Weight Matt I have not noticed this....

I have some papers varying between 240gsm gloss to 310gsm Matt.

On the gloss and Semi-Gloss I have noticed one (possibly 2) witness mark lines along the print direction. It/they don't extend off the edges of the sheet but do make me wonder if it a feed roller leaving the marks? Note ~ the ink finish is fine, so maybe the rollers before the print head path are doing it.

On the 310gsm Matt I think the line is there but very much fainter compared to the other two papers. Though looking closely I can see slight scuffing of the ink in that area of the print...head 'hitting' the print surface?

Edit- this is on A4 and the line is approx an inch in from the LHS as viewed as the print appears.

Note ~ I see there is a thick paper setting in the printer settings, do perhaps that will mitigate what I am seeing on the thicker Matt paper.

Note ~ the printer is quite noisy when ingesting the papers through the rear feeder!

TIA for any user insights

Have seen on Epson premium glossy paper (255gsm) which I keep in the 4x6 tray and use for test prints and family snaps. Very difficult to see, I can only see it if I look really hard and if the print is lit an a specific angle.

Have not seen on the same paper if I use the rear paper feeder, and never seen on Ilford galerie smooth pearl (310gsm) paper, but that is always fed through the rear feeder.

Not seen on any other paper (old HP and Kodak glossy, high glossy and semi matt) which I fed through the rear feeder.

 

[VisuallyOriented]

I wonder if other users of the et-8550 could say if they have experienced the following?

With Epson papers gloss, Semi-Gloss and Heavy Weight Matt I have not noticed this....

I have some papers varying between 240gsm gloss to 310gsm Matt.

On the gloss and Semi-Gloss I have noticed one (possibly 2) witness mark lines along the print direction. It/they don't extend off the edges of the sheet but do make me wonder if it a feed roller leaving the marks? Note ~ the ink finish is fine, so maybe the rollers before the print head path are doing it.

On the 310gsm Matt I think the line is there but very much fainter compared to the other two papers. Though looking closely I can see slight scuffing of the ink in that area of the print...head 'hitting' the print surface?

Edit- this is on A4 and the line is approx an inch in from the LHS as viewed as the print appears.

Note ~ I see there is a thick paper setting in the printer settings, do perhaps that will mitigate what I am seeing on the thicker Matt paper.

Note ~ the printer is quite noisy when ingesting the papers through the rear feeder!

TIA for any user insights

Have seen on Epson premium glossy paper (255gsm) which I keep in the 4x6 tray and use for test prints and family snaps. Very difficult to see, I can only see it if I look really hard and if the print is lit an a specific angle.

Have not seen on the same paper if I use the rear paper feeder, and never seen on Ilford galerie smooth pearl (310gsm) paper, but that is always fed through the rear feeder.

Not seen on any other paper (old HP and Kodak glossy, high glossy and semi matt) which I fed through the rear feeder.

Thanks for added experiences

It does seem to be a variable but without full consistency i.e. not always the same type/weight papers!

Having said that it does make me wonder if the 'issue' in part is caused or affected by the stiffness of the paper and that will influence how (in my case) the paper feeder mechanism is manipulating the sheet into the print path.......and whether the sheet, if stiffer, is getting greater pressure applied by one (or more?) rollers because unlike the lighter less stiff papers it does not enter as flatly.

NB the above is based on paper weight and stiffness not being 100% synonymous i.e. some thinner lighter papers can be stiffer than heavier papers ???

Lastly, as this printer is aimed at the more mass general usage market have production cost pressures meant that component tolerances are too wide and thus 'we' see such issues???

I'm glad this thread got bumped. I've had a ET-8550 for about a month and I've also seen roller marks on some prints.

My experience is that the marks mostly occur on papers with softer surfaces- especially barytas. I did see a very light line on one sheet of Epson UP glossy. Thickness doesn't seem to be a factor.

I believe the marks occur when using the rear top feed when the paper make the ~80% turn from downward to forward. Using the rear feed slot does prevent the marks but is a PITA.

 

[Box Brownie]

I wonder if other users of the et-8550 could say if they have experienced the following?

With Epson papers gloss, Semi-Gloss and Heavy Weight Matt I have not noticed this....

I have some papers varying between 240gsm gloss to 310gsm Matt.

On the gloss and Semi-Gloss I have noticed one (possibly 2) witness mark lines along the print direction. It/they don't extend off the edges of the sheet but do make me wonder if it a feed roller leaving the marks? Note ~ the ink finish is fine, so maybe the rollers before the print head path are doing it.

On the 310gsm Matt I think the line is there but very much fainter compared to the other two papers. Though looking closely I can see slight scuffing of the ink in that area of the print...head 'hitting' the print surface?

Edit- this is on A4 and the line is approx an inch in from the LHS as viewed as the print appears.

Note ~ I see there is a thick paper setting in the printer settings, do perhaps that will mitigate what I am seeing on the thicker Matt paper.

Note ~ the printer is quite noisy when ingesting the papers through the rear feeder!

TIA for any user insights

Have seen on Epson premium glossy paper (255gsm) which I keep in the 4x6 tray and use for test prints and family snaps. Very difficult to see, I can only see it if I look really hard and if the print is lit an a specific angle.

Have not seen on the same paper if I use the rear paper feeder, and never seen on Ilford galerie smooth pearl (310gsm) paper, but that is always fed through the rear feeder.

Not seen on any other paper (old HP and Kodak glossy, high glossy and semi matt) which I fed through the rear feeder.

Thanks for added experiences

It does seem to be a variable but without full consistency i.e. not always the same type/weight papers!

Having said that it does make me wonder if the 'issue' in part is caused or affected by the stiffness of the paper and that will influence how (in my case) the paper feeder mechanism is manipulating the sheet into the print path.......and whether the sheet, if stiffer, is getting greater pressure applied by one (or more?) rollers because unlike the lighter less stiff papers it does not enter as flatly.

NB the above is based on paper weight and stiffness not being 100% synonymous i.e. some thinner lighter papers can be stiffer than heavier papers ???

Lastly, as this printer is aimed at the more mass general usage market have production cost pressures meant that component tolerances are too wide and thus 'we' see such issues???

I'm glad this thread got bumped. I've had a ET-8550 for about a month and I've also seen roller marks on some prints.

My experience is that the marks mostly occur on papers with softer surfaces- especially barytas. I did see a very light line on one sheet of Epson UP glossy. Thickness doesn't seem to be a factor.

I believe the marks occur when using the rear top feed when the paper make the ~80% turn from downward to forward. Using the rear feed slot does prevent the marks but is a PITA.

Thanks for your insight.

I have not tried the rear flat path feed as I don't have the space.

But your noticing that softer surfaces might, as you say, have an influencing factor!

I will have to examine the trial prints I have previously done and consider whether I can do a control test of some sort to 'test' the sensitivity of the surface to pressure???

 

[mark1963]

hi

i have same issue on kodak premium photo paper and other cheaper photo paper

 

[vfh-art]

I would really appreciate any help anyone can offer on this. I recently bought an et8550 to print art work however I use black backgrounds and I get a stripe across the bottom of my work making it unusable. I am using photo inkjet settings. I tried changing to thicker paper but it’s still there. Any ideas?

 

[Box Brownie]

I would really appreciate any help anyone can offer on this. I recently bought an et8550 to print art work however I use black backgrounds and I get a stripe across the bottom of my work making it unusable. I am using photo inkjet settings. I tried changing to thicker paper but it’s still there. Any ideas?

I suggest you post a picture of what you are describing. This should be of the whole of the width of the paper so the the stripe can be seen in context.

Also include a closer picture to show the stripe.

 

[mark1963]

ok on Epson instant dry paper good finish too C13S042539 A4

so far tried

1. Epson C13S042539 A4 Photo Paper great try this quick drying
2. Kodak Glossy Photo Paper A4 Size 240gsm | Premium High Gloss Photo rubbish
3. Epson C13S400035 A4 Glossy Paper Standard Capacity rubbish also
4. PPD 50 Sheets A4 Inkjet Premium Glossy Photo Paper 260gsm Instant Dry Water-Resistant PPD-8-50 another crap one don't bother
5. canon A 3photo paper plus glossy2 pixma not as bad but still marks prints

so try the epson C13S042539 paper

so we need quick drying paper please try other brands of quick drying photo paper

the ink is not drying quick enough and the rollers etc mark the papers

 

[olyflyer]

I wonder if other users of the et-8550 could say if they have experienced the following?

With Epson papers gloss, Semi-Gloss and Heavy Weight Matt I have not noticed this....

I have some papers varying between 240gsm gloss to 310gsm Matt.

On the gloss and Semi-Gloss I have noticed one (possibly 2) witness mark lines along the print direction. It/they don't extend off the edges of the sheet but do make me wonder if it a feed roller leaving the marks? Note ~ the ink finish is fine, so maybe the rollers before the print head path are doing it.

On the 310gsm Matt I think the line is there but very much fainter compared to the other two papers. Though looking closely I can see slight scuffing of the ink in that area of the print...head 'hitting' the print surface?

Edit- this is on A4 and the line is approx an inch in from the LHS as viewed as the print appears.

Note ~ I see there is a thick paper setting in the printer settings, do perhaps that will mitigate what I am seeing on the thicker Matt paper.

Note ~ the printer is quite noisy when ingesting the papers through the rear feeder!

TIA for any user insights

Have seen on Epson premium glossy paper (255gsm) which I keep in the 4x6 tray and use for test prints and family snaps. Very difficult to see, I can only see it if I look really hard and if the print is lit an a specific angle.

Have not seen on the same paper if I use the rear paper feeder, and never seen on Ilford galerie smooth pearl (310gsm) paper, but that is always fed through the rear feeder.

Not seen on any other paper (old HP and Kodak glossy, high glossy and semi matt) which I fed through the rear feeder.

Thanks for added experiences

It does seem to be a variable but without full consistency i.e. not always the same type/weight papers!

Having said that it does make me wonder if the 'issue' in part is caused or affected by the stiffness of the paper and that will influence how (in my case) the paper feeder mechanism is manipulating the sheet into the print path.......and whether the sheet, if stiffer, is getting greater pressure applied by one (or more?) rollers because unlike the lighter less stiff papers it does not enter as flatly.

NB the above is based on paper weight and stiffness not being 100% synonymous i.e. some thinner lighter papers can be stiffer than heavier papers ???

Lastly, as this printer is aimed at the more mass general usage market have production cost pressures meant that component tolerances are too wide and thus 'we' see such issues???

I'm glad this thread got bumped. I've had a ET-8550 for about a month and I've also seen roller marks on some prints.

My experience is that the marks mostly occur on papers with softer surfaces- especially barytas. I did see a very light line on one sheet of Epson UP glossy. Thickness doesn't seem to be a factor.

I believe the marks occur when using the rear top feed when the paper make the ~80% turn from downward to forward. Using the rear feed slot does prevent the marks but is a PITA.

The marks I have seen are only on the Epson Premium Glossy paper, and that's ONLY on the small, 4 x 6" paper, never on A4 or A3+, and the marks are visible regardless if I use the top tray, or the rear feeder. The Epson paper is softer and lighter than the Ilford I am also using, but the Ilford Pearl is a semi matte paper, so they are not the same. All the other papers I tried with are without any marks. So I think that it has to do with the Epson paper mainly. I also found that it is mostly (or maybe only) visible in B&W images and only in the real black parts, and also much of the marks are gone or significantly reduced in visibility after letting the images dry a few days.

Anyway, it sounds dramatic with the marks, but in reality, I have to look hard, some times under a large magnifying glass to see any of it, so nobody else can really see it.

 

[olyflyer]

I would really appreciate any help anyone can offer on this. I recently bought an et8550 to print art work however I use black backgrounds and I get a stripe across the bottom of my work making it unusable. I am using photo inkjet settings. I tried changing to thicker paper but it’s still there. Any ideas?

Which paper are you using? I can only see it using Epson Premium Glossy 4 x 6", never larger and never in images printed on Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl.

I don't know what you mean by "I am using photo inkjet settings."

 

[SteveP86]

Hi,

I recently bought the ET-8550 and I've been using 350gsm card stock and I am getting noticeable paper feeder marks on the paper when printing with it.

I've turned on the thick paper setting on the printer plus selecting 'thick paper 1' or 'thick paper 2' from the print options as an option. It hasn't resolved it.

Has anyone had any luck as it says it'll take thick paper and they can't say it does this thick paper but leaves paper indentations?

Curious if anyone found a way to do it.


Secondly I thought I'd try the rear slot feeder - I was shocked how badly this fed the A4 paper, skewed and not useable in my case. Am I doing something wrong?

Steve

 

[Box Brownie]

Hi,

I recently bought the ET-8550 and I've been using 350gsm card stock and I am getting noticeable paper feeder marks on the paper when printing with it.

I've turned on the thick paper setting on the printer plus selecting 'thick paper 1' or 'thick paper 2' from the print options as an option. It hasn't resolved it.

Has anyone had any luck as it says it'll take thick paper and they can't say it does this thick paper but leaves paper indentations?

Curious if anyone found a way to do it.

Secondly I thought I'd try the rear slot feeder - I was shocked how badly this fed the A4 paper, skewed and not useable in my case. Am I doing something wrong?

Steve

I have never used such thick paper (my max IIRC has been 300gsm) or the rear feed slot (the one that requires the duplexer to be removed from the rear of the printer) I have however used the rear paper feed for all my photo sheets printing.

But the manual says you can put up to 1.3mm posterboard through that, duplexer removed, 'rear feed slot'.

I can only suggest you watch Keith Cooper's et-8550 review where he covered using the "rear feed slot" for printing on posterboard. You might find added insights to address your issue!

 

[wilberforce_1]

The thick paper setting only raises the printhead carriage to increase the platen gap, it does not change the feed rollers.

The printer can accommodate poster board up to 1.3mm thick through the rear feed slot, so card stock should not be a problem.

I have had no issues with some pretty thick papers.

You probably just need to use different paper that does not indent as easily. Exactly which rollers are indenting?

 

[Box Brownie]

Here is Keith's video about using/feeding posterboard with the ET-8550

 

[SteveP86]

Thanks everyone for fast replies.

I've seen it across multiple paper, for example was testing PRO-DESIGN® 350gsm today, and the image attached (contrast has been maxed to show) the lines through the 'HAPPY' part and below in the image. Can see it go across the whole paper length ways when fed.



Tried on multiple different papers, a linen textured 300gsm, smooth white gsm etc same impact.



The rear feeder, I watched Keith's video the other day and attempted the rear feeder slot but the A4 paper does not stay straight, unless I'm missing something - so only realistic for A3? or very thick and guide it in? Unless I'm missing something.

 

[SteveP86]

Here is Keith's video about using/feeding posterboard with the ET-8550

Followed that and was excited to use it but feeding an A4 for near borderless printing isn't do able as the alignment skews with just those two blue clips holding the paper in?

 

[VisuallyOriented]

Thanks everyone for fast replies.

I've seen it across multiple paper, for example was testing PRO-DESIGN® 350gsm today, and the image attached (contrast has been maxed to show) the lines through the 'HAPPY' part and below in the image. Can see it go across the whole paper length ways when fed.

Tried on multiple different papers, a linen textured 300gsm, smooth white gsm etc same impact.

The rear feeder, I watched Keith's video the other day and attempted the rear feeder slot but the A4 paper does not stay straight, unless I'm missing something - so only realistic for A3? or very thick and guide it in? Unless I'm missing something.

It is possible to use the rear feeder with A4 and larger paper.... it is a bit of an art though. You have to make sure the paper is taken up evenly. I't's been a while since I used it but if I recall the key for me was to use 2 hands near the edges to make sure the paper is taken up evenly.