DJI Mini 3 Pro: Processing 12MP + Enhance or 48MP Photo?

[Photographizationalist]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

 

[Lensmate]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

I'm still waiting for my Mini 3 pro, but I would imagine that processing the 48mp raw image is best.

-M

 

[Photographizationalist]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

I'm still waiting for my Mini 3 pro, but I would imagine that processing the 48mp raw image is best.

-M

Thanks for the reply. But the Mini 3 doesn't produce a true 48MP RAW image.

 

[RebelUser]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

I'm still waiting for my Mini 3 pro, but I would imagine that processing the 48mp raw image is best.

-M

Thanks for the reply. But the Mini 3 doesn't produce a true 48MP RAW image.

Not sure what you mean by "true 48MP RAW image. The Mini 3 sensor has two modes of operation. It can deliver a 48MP image from all of its available sensors, or it can combine "pixels" into groups of 4, which enhances dynamic range, noise, and lower resolution. The 48 pixel mode color sensors are truly present to produce a 48 MP image. It is not a simply "enhance" or up-resolution process from a true 12 MP sensor.

Furthermore, the Mini 3 Pro's sensor, in the 12 MP mode can use two different ISOs (gains) for the 4 pixels that are grouped together. This provides a nice bump in dynamic range over what would be expected from the higher area of 4 clustered pixels vs. a single pixel.

So the sensor can be read in two different ways: 1) a high 48MP resolution readout, or 2) a 12 MP resolution with higher dynamic range and lower noise.

This is sort of the best of two different worlds. With good light, one typically goes for the the 48MP readout. With lower light or very high dynamic range (lots of highlights and shadows) go for the 12 MP readout. Having both options is very nice!

So if the lens can provide the optical resolution equivalent to the modest-sized 48MP sensor, and the image processing is done correctly by the drone, the 48MP raw image should be superior, provided there is good light and not too much dynamic range needed. There are a number of high quality reviews of the Mini 3 Pro camera that support this.

 

[Richandhiscat]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

Need to do a side by side test, but I agree at the moment - the 12mp photo's are just so good. Topaz Gigapixel does a great job on them.

 

[Photographizationalist]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

I'm still waiting for my Mini 3 pro, but I would imagine that processing the 48mp raw image is best.

-M

Thanks for the reply. But the Mini 3 doesn't produce a true 48MP RAW image.

Not sure what you mean by "true 48MP RAW image. The Mini 3 sensor has two modes of operation. It can deliver a 48MP image from all of its available sensors, or it can combine "pixels" into groups of 4, which enhances dynamic range, noise, and lower resolution. The 48 pixel mode color sensors are truly present to produce a 48 MP image. It is not a simply "enhance" or up-resolution process from a true 12 MP sensor.

Furthermore, the Mini 3 Pro's sensor, in the 12 MP mode can use two different ISOs (gains) for the 4 pixels that are grouped together. This provides a nice bump in dynamic range over what would be expected from the higher area of 4 clustered pixels vs. a single pixel.

So the sensor can be read in two different ways: 1) a high 48MP resolution readout, or 2) a 12 MP resolution with higher dynamic range and lower noise.

This is sort of the best of two different worlds. With good light, one typically goes for the the 48MP readout. With lower light or very high dynamic range (lots of highlights and shadows) go for the 12 MP readout. Having both options is very nice!

So if the lens can provide the optical resolution equivalent to the modest-sized 48MP sensor, and the image processing is done correctly by the drone, the 48MP raw image should be superior, provided there is good light and not too much dynamic range needed. There are a number of high quality reviews of the Mini 3 Pro camera that support this.

Thank you very much for the explanation. I just assumed it was the quad bayer filter turning 12MP into 48MP.

 

[Photographizationalist]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

Need to do a side by side test, but I agree at the moment - the 12mp photo's are just so good. Topaz Gigapixel does a great job on them.

Thank you. I'll check out the software.

 

[jackalopemaui]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

I'm still waiting for my Mini 3 pro, but I would imagine that processing the 48mp raw image is best.

-M

Thanks for the reply. But the Mini 3 doesn't produce a true 48MP RAW image.

Not sure what you mean by "true 48MP RAW image. The Mini 3 sensor has two modes of operation. It can deliver a 48MP image from all of its available sensors, or it can combine "pixels" into groups of 4, which enhances dynamic range, noise, and lower resolution. The 48 pixel mode color sensors are truly present to produce a 48 MP image. It is not a simply "enhance" or up-resolution process from a true 12 MP sensor.

Furthermore, the Mini 3 Pro's sensor, in the 12 MP mode can use two different ISOs (gains) for the 4 pixels that are grouped together. This provides a nice bump in dynamic range over what would be expected from the higher area of 4 clustered pixels vs. a single pixel.

So the sensor can be read in two different ways: 1) a high 48MP resolution readout, or 2) a 12 MP resolution with higher dynamic range and lower noise.

This is sort of the best of two different worlds. With good light, one typically goes for the the 48MP readout. With lower light or very high dynamic range (lots of highlights and shadows) go for the 12 MP readout. Having both options is very nice!

So if the lens can provide the optical resolution equivalent to the modest-sized 48MP sensor, and the image processing is done correctly by the drone, the 48MP raw image should be superior, provided there is good light and not too much dynamic range needed. There are a number of high quality reviews of the Mini 3 Pro camera that support this.

Thank you very much for the explanation. I just assumed it was the quad bayer filter turning 12MP into 48MP.

It seems to be a common misconception that it's not really 48mp. It's literally a 48mp sensor, it just has a quad Bayer grid color grid glued to it.

When you take a 48mp photo it reads data from all those sensors, but then the sensor chip itself applies some process to make a pattern that looks like a standard Bayer grid at 48mp.

BTW DJI says the 48mp DNG files are only 10 bit

 

[Photographizationalist]

It seems to be a common misconception that it's not really 48mp. It's literally a 48mp sensor, it just has a quad Bayer grid color grid glued to it.

When you take a 48mp photo it reads data from all those sensors, but then the sensor chip itself applies some process to make a pattern that looks like a standard Bayer grid at 48mp.

BTW DJI says the 48mp DNG files are only 10 bit

Thanks for the clarification. I still prefer the upscaled 12MP (Topaz Gigapixel AI or ACR) to the native 48MP though

 

[mcrksman]

It seems to be a common misconception that it's not really 48mp. It's literally a 48mp sensor, it just has a quad Bayer grid color grid glued to it.

When you take a 48mp photo it reads data from all those sensors, but then the sensor chip itself applies some process to make a pattern that looks like a standard Bayer grid at 48mp.

BTW DJI says the 48mp DNG files are only 10 bit

Thanks for the clarification. I still prefer the upscaled 12MP (Topaz Gigapixel AI or ACR) to the native 48MP though

Ai upscaled will always look cleaner because it sharpens and reduces noise as well. That is, until people start zooming in and then they'll see weird artifacts and everyone will know its ai upscaled

 

[Photographizationalist]

It seems to be a common misconception that it's not really 48mp. It's literally a 48mp sensor, it just has a quad Bayer grid color grid glued to it.

When you take a 48mp photo it reads data from all those sensors, but then the sensor chip itself applies some process to make a pattern that looks like a standard Bayer grid at 48mp.

BTW DJI says the 48mp DNG files are only 10 bit

Thanks for the clarification. I still prefer the upscaled 12MP (Topaz Gigapixel AI or ACR) to the native 48MP though

Ai upscaled will always look cleaner because it sharpens and reduces noise as well. That is, until people start zooming in and then they'll see weird artifacts and everyone will know its ai upscaled

Take a look at the second post on this thread.

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forum.dji.com

I've experienced the same issues myself when shooting 48MP photos.

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www.MarkSykesPhotography.co.uk

 

[mcrksman]

It seems to be a common misconception that it's not really 48mp. It's literally a 48mp sensor, it just has a quad Bayer grid color grid glued to it.

When you take a 48mp photo it reads data from all those sensors, but then the sensor chip itself applies some process to make a pattern that looks like a standard Bayer grid at 48mp.

BTW DJI says the 48mp DNG files are only 10 bit

Thanks for the clarification. I still prefer the upscaled 12MP (Topaz Gigapixel AI or ACR) to the native 48MP though

Ai upscaled will always look cleaner because it sharpens and reduces noise as well. That is, until people start zooming in and then they'll see weird artifacts and everyone will know its ai upscaled

Take a look at the second post on this thread.

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=265943

I've experienced the same issues myself when shooting 48MP photos.

I was assuming the photos being compared were standard - thats definitely not supposed to be happening. Glad I decided not to get one

 

[Higgins2002]

Anyone who Know what program to use stiching those 360 panoramas

 

[mcrksman]

Anyone who Know what program to use stiching those 360 panoramas

Can't find the 360's you're referring to but DJI has a panorama function which stitches it for you, thats what we use

 

[Paul Holman]

Anyone who Know what program to use stiching those 360 panoramas

Can't find the 360's you're referring to but DJI has a panorama function which stitches it for you, thats what we use

The Dji app only makes low resolution stitches. To get full resolution you need to use a stand alone program like Lightroom, Photoshop, Affinity, PTGUI etc.

 

[Photographizationalist]

Anyone who Know what program to use stiching those 360 panoramas

I've used PanoramaStudio for creating 360 Spheres using the DNG files.

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www.tshsoft.de

 

[mcrksman]

Anyone who Know what program to use stiching those 360 panoramas

Can't find the 360's you're referring to but DJI has a panorama function which stitches it for you, thats what we use

The Dji app only makes low resolution stitches. To get full resolution you need to use a stand alone program like Lightroom, Photoshop, Affinity, PTGUI etc.

11000x23000 is already pretty good imo, looking at them I don't really feel like the resolution is lacking

 

[Higgins2002]

Anyone who Know what program to use stiching those 360 panoramas

Can't find the 360's you're referring to but DJI has a panorama function which stitches it for you, thats what we use

Well I haven't opened any of these panoramas yet but I assumed this globe option was 360 .

 

[Lensmate]

Do you find you get better results if you shoot a 12MP photo then enlarge it during processing, maybe with ACR "Enhance" or just shooting the 48MP and let the drone's software enlarge the photo?

For me it's the former. But I prefer to use Capture One so I have to compromise a little.

Thanks.

Need to do a side by side test, but I agree at the moment - the 12mp photo's are just so good. Topaz Gigapixel does a great job on them.

Thank you. I'll check out the software.

Topaz Giga doesn't always work on every image. Use the trail version before you commit .

By the way Mark, I saw your Dominion Theater shots. Excellent photography! I recall seeing many shows there, but one that stood out was this show by Tangerine Dream. The sound was incredible. If you have a good Hi-Fi, slap this LP on:

The Dominion Concert (Pt.1 / Live From The Dominion Theatre, London / 6th November 1982) - YouTube

-M

 

[Photographizationalist]

Topaz Giga doesn't always work on every image. Use the trail version before you commit .

By the way Mark, I saw your Dominion Theater shots. Excellent photography! I recall seeing many shows there, but one that stood out was this show by Tangerine Dream. The sound was incredible. If you have a good Hi-Fi, slap this LP on:

The Dominion Concert (Pt.1 / Live From The Dominion Theatre, London / 6th November 1982) - YouTube

-M

Thank you for your kind words. I remember taking those shots, it was extremely dark inside the theatre. I had to use a torch/flashlight to find my way around