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Can someone please share their thoughts on this processing style for the night photos that this photographer is posting?

I realize that the lens and the focal length is bringing in some magic. Probably 35-50mm or so FL, a long-ish exposure too - something like 1-2 seconds. I think the magenta slider is up in the white balance getting that reddish tone. However, that is only happening in the mid tones - highlights and shadows and protected. Highlights and shadows are exaggerated, probably by increasing contrast.

Then there is a glow of some kind added in the highlights. Orton effect does not give me a similar look. Maybe it is added only in selected areas.

I am not sure if this is done using a preset or the photographer has a workflow. Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
I can only see the thumbs with no Instagram account, but the "style" looks like the over-the-top HDR processing that gives HDR a bad name. Photomatix is usually the culprit in this style, as it allows setting to such extremes.
 
I am not sure if this is done using a preset or the photographer has a workflow. Any thoughts appreciated.
I guess I'm not a fan. Perhaps a preset called Ultra-Gaudy HDR?

But seriously, a discussion could be had about the appeal and purpose of this 'style'. Who displays such things in their homes (maybe along with Thomas Kinkade paintings)? Would someone want to commission a shoot like that for a commercial use? Is it just good for quick likes on Instagram? I might surmise that the photographer is looking to break into the ranks of artists whose work impresses dealers and speculative collectors, hoping that market attaches monetary value to it.

Any thoughts appreciated.
 
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...the "Orton effect" with maybe some minimal HDR. Google "Orton effect in photography" to see examples and tutorials on how to do.

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I would say I dont like the style personally, but it hit me with an immediate feeling of nostalgia that took a few seconds to remember.

That style reminds me of Christmas, specifically all the candy/chocolate/cookie tins/boxes and/or Christmas cards. If I saw those shots around the holidays, I would enjoy them, they feel wintery but warm and inviting.

BUT, seeing as its the middle of May and Ive arleady had 5 wildfires within 5 miles of my house, not a fan currently.
 
Kim mentions in the comments in an Instagram post from October 3, 2018:

"I shoot raw with a Sony a7r11 and process mostly in LR, sometimes use a Nik plugin."

Seems like she likes to pull down highlights, add to shadows for an HDR effect and then adds a lot of saturation. I would bet she plays with HSL also to get the complimentary colors just right. Some images likely finished off using the Orton effect from Nik Color Efex Pro.

-Robert
 
Kim mentions in the comments in an Instagram post from October 3, 2018:

"I shoot raw with a Sony a7r11 and process mostly in LR, sometimes use a Nik plugin."

Seems like she likes to pull down highlights, add to shadows for an HDR effect and then adds a lot of saturation. I would bet she plays with HSL also to get the complimentary colors just right. Some images likely finished off using the Orton effect from Nik Color Efex Pro.

-Robert
High contrast...
 
While looking through some links to tutorials i have saved ( pinterest)

i found this one, that you might find useful :-)

 
That style reminds me of Christmas, specifically all the candy/chocolate/cookie tins/boxes and/or Christmas cards. If I saw those shots around the holidays, I would enjoy them, they feel wintery but warm and inviting.
To me it evokes memories of Thomas Kinkade, the artist whom critics hated with a passion but many Americans loved.

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I think that this is a clear case: photographer declares that he/she follows the style of Edvard Munch, and she does it pretty well.

I may or may not like it, but she does
 
looks like the Painting effect in Photomatix Pro to me

like this one:



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https://www.instagram.com/kmunchie/

Can someone please share their thoughts on this processing style for the night photos that this photographer is posting?
I did stuff like that about fifteen years ago. It was a very popular look, but mainly because back in those days there was little alternative to capturing a scene with a large dynamic range. Cameras used back then typically had CCD sensors, which tended to be rather noisy.

Typically, more than one image—and often many images—were captured at different exposures and then combined into a single high dynamic range image, like a 32 bit TIFF file. This HDR image was compressed back down to a standard JPEG using tone mapping software, like Photomatix, Photoshop, or others. This tone mapping did what's called "local contrast enhancement" which retains the impression of shadow and highlights but brings out texture in both areas: "global contrast enhancement" will tend to crush details in the shadows and highlights.

Modern camera raw files, particularly if they are well-exposed at base ISO with high bit depth, have enough dynamic range that taking multiple exposures is unnecessary, and tone mapping can be done directly on the raw file. However, the HDR name stuck, even when not combining multiple exposures; I suppose you can say that the raw files themself are already HDR.

Trouble is, early tone mapping techniques were rather ad hoc and not based on good color science, and so not only textures were enhanced but also colors were saturated. Some people liked the effect, but it soon became overdone and typically only popular with noobs. Newer tone mapping methods give a more realistic effect.
I realize that the lens and the focal length is bringing in some magic. Probably 35-50mm or so FL,
Those will have no effect on the tonality and coloration of the images, which is quite prominent.

The effect is not obtained organically through typical camera settings, but rather through computation.
a long-ish exposure too - something like 1-2 seconds.
Likewise, this won't give the prominent effect seen here. It could lead to a cleaner, well-exposed image.
I think the magenta slider is up in the white balance getting that reddish tone. However, that is only happening in the mid tones - highlights and shadows and protected.
I wouldn't think that these are intentional on the part of the photographer, but rather are side-effects of the tone mapping.

Protection of the highlights and shadows is the whole raison d'être of using the HDR technique: getting highlight and shadow details that are otherwise outside of the ordinary dynamic range of a snapshot.
Highlights and shadows are exaggerated, probably by increasing contrast.
Quite the opposite: contrast is lowered, greatly. If a realistic tone curve were to be used in these images, that would either blow out more of the highlights or crush the shadows to blackness. The global contrast is decreased, but tone mapping, if done well, will retain the *impression* of darkness and shadows even if they aren't all that different in the final image. The shadow pixels aren't brightened uniformly, and the highlight pixels aren't darkened uniformly as well; the irregular tone change is used to enhance textures.

Sure, you might be able to set the contrast of your camera to a very low level, and successfully capture both highlights and shadows in a JPEG, but the resulting image will look dull, tepid, and flat. Tone mapping with its local contrast enhancement brings back the "pop" into an HDR image.

Early apps and old algorithms would change color saturation whenever tonal contrast was changed, which is why these image are highly oversaturated.
Then there is a glow of some kind added in the highlights. Orton effect does not give me a similar look. Maybe it is added only in selected areas.
One side effect of tone mapping is often haloes around high contrast edges. Local contrast enhancement will typically compare the brightness of pixels against its neighbors, and how far away these neighbors are is a major parameter in the process: a large radius will give a more natural look, but may induce halos; a small radius will decrease the size of the haloes but give an unrealistically crunchy look. There are now lots of methods that attempt to reduce the haloing but still give the desired look, but the linked Instagram photos don't use the newer techniques.

Also, lens flare, typical around bright highlights, will be exaggerated by tone mapping. Veiling glare will likewise cause a loss of detail in the shadows.
I am not sure if this is done using a preset or the photographer has a workflow. Any thoughts appreciated.
This 'look' is not due to a preset, but rather is usually a more complex computational process, which could even require a custom app like Photomatix.

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Just dial the clarity slider all the way to -100 and you get a very similar look.

That doesn't explain the amplified glow in the highlights, though.

Maybe a luminance mask and some selective adjustment will do (I tried, it didn't quite work out). Maybe it's the dehaze slider to introduce fog only in the highlights.

The rest I think is probably some coincidental color adjustments, that vary from image to image. Nothing special. Or she was using the toning wheel for the mid tones.

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Thanks Alex. I was able to get close by increasing magenta in LR. Then adding the “HDR Like” recipe in Nik Color Efex. Then I added the Glamor Glow filter in Color Efex. I can then try to blend in the effect using luminosity masking to protect some of the highlights.

it is not the same because she is using different locations, different gear, different focal lengths. But overall it comes close
 
Thanks for explaining it.

That is quite some reverse engineering that you did. It seems more complex than I could have figured out.

Interesting approach to use Nik color effects. I might have to look into that because I like the glow in the highlights.

Thank you again for posting it here. Very appreciated!

Alex
 

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