UK only - Canon Pro 10s - Can anybody recommend 3rd Part ink cartridges that actually work please?

[richardD300]

I’m struggling to find truly compatible aftermarket inks. I’ve wasted so much money on trying various makes of 3rd party inks and papers experimenting, I’m now fed up! I’ve tried at least 3 companies and this week tried “premier inks”. The colours are dreadful and totally unmatched. Before I return to Canon inks I’d like to know if such a thing as a quality aftermarket inks exist?

To clarify I am experienced in the printer settings on the printer.

Thank you.

 

[Gesture]

Have you looked here?

https://www.octoink.co.uk/products/Canon-Pro%252d100-Refill-Kit-v2-%288x125ml%29.html

Haven't used this set, but the company has a good reputation and the owner responds to emails. Bought some Printer Potties from them.

You really need OEM carts and a resetter.

Good luck.

 

[Petruska]

You should be using the Canon OEM cartridges and resetting them. For best color matching results you need to generate custom ICC profiles for each paper and 3rd party ink combination.

Bob P.

 

[richardD300]

Thank you. However, I’m really looking for someone who has experience of using a brand of 3rd party inks themselves.

 

[richardD300]

Thank you. I’ve been using OEM for years and yes I agree this is the best way, however at £110 per set and I’m not selling my prints it’s expensive. I do use paper profiles for my Fotospeed papers. Can you please expand on what you mean by “and resetting them”?

--

richardD700
website: http://www.pixels4u.co.uk
flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardd300/
Blog: https://pixels4ublog.wordpress.com

 

[Petruska]

Thank you. I’ve been using OEM for years and yes I agree this is the best way, however at £110 per set and I’m not selling my prints it’s expensive. I do use paper profiles for my Fotospeed papers. Can you please expand on what you mean by “and resetting them”?

When you refill the OEM cartridges, you reed to buy a cartridge chip resetter to reset the ink levels to full.

Watch these videos they will help you achieve your goal...........

https://www.youtube.com/user/cheo1949/search?query=canon%20pro10%20refill

Bob P.

 

[Philip Eihuyar]

Can you please expand on what you mean by “and resetting them”?

The carts can be 'reset' by purchasing a little device from 'Redsetter' (as in this video) and then refill the cart by dripping ink until it weighs 32 grams (use a small scale) scale shown in photo.

The pro 10 can be refilled with ink from the OEM ink from the Pro 1 PGI 29 (ink pulled out and stored in little plastic bottles as in photo) The gram scale is at bottom middle.





Purchase resetter for PGI 72 and with a cord to computer - not with only battery

When one cart reads 'empty' , pull all carts out and refill/reset all at once. The process for me takes around 1-2 hours and I'm set for another 3 or more months before I have to refill.

 

[Gesture]

Spot on.

 

[Dweeble]

When you use a 3rd party ink, do you send test prints off to someone like colourphil to have icc profiles made for each paper you use? Or make them yourslef if you have a photospectrometer?

Suspect you won't be happy even then but without that you have no chance of success.

 

[richardD300]

“Suspect you won't be happy even then but without that you have no chance of success.”

That’s a big assumption based on what I’m wondering and arrogant!

Read my original post again, the question I asked was does anyone know of any decent non OEM cartridges, I didn’t ask for a lecture or comment! Why would I ask for a profile before I’ve even bought the inks.

--
richardD700
website: http://www.pixels4u.co.uk
flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardd300/
Blog: https://pixels4ublog.wordpress.com

 

[Dweeble]

“Suspect you won't be happy even then but without that you have no chance of success.”

That’s a big assumption based on what I’m wondering and arrogant!

Read my original post again, the question I asked was does anyone know of any decent non OEM cartridges, I didn’t ask for a lecture or comment! Why would I ask for a profile before I’ve even bought the inks.

Well taking this quote at face value " I’ve wasted so much money on trying various makes of 3rd party inks and papers experimenting" you have tried and haven't been happy. If you can't take well meant advice without getting snarly, good luck to you. Bye.

 

[Philip Eihuyar]

Thank you. However, I’m really looking for someone who has experience of using a brand of 3rd party inks themselves.

As no one so far gave a recommendation for good third-party inks, I would give two ink suppliers a try. Precision colors: https://precisioncolors.com/canon.html Jose Rodriguez highly recommends theses inks as a perfect match. For the Pro 10: https://precisioncolors.com/C10B.html

The other company is Octo inks. In terms of longevity againt fading, I think their inks are best. https://www.octoink.co.uk/finishorder.php

BTW, always only use OEM cartridges to fill with 3rd party inks.

 

[Gesture]

I believe I gave that UK ref. Precision Colors only ships US and Canada.

I understand what the OP was asking. Third party, not OEM cartridges-filled by Canon or filled b user. My guess is that 90 percent plus of Canon Pro-10 users either buy OEM Canon cartridges or refill Canon OEM cartridges-for many obvious reasons.

We are fortunate that the Canon Pro-10 and Pro-100 cartridges can be reset.

I do applaud Mike Lee of Precision Colors in that if he is doing an ink set and doesn't feel he can match a color, he suggests using OEM ink for that position.

OP: When going for 3rd party carts, be alert to dye ink being used in what is a pigment ink printer.

This is the only 3rd party company I am familiar with for other printers:

Canon PIXMA PRO-10 Ink - LD Products

Shop online at LDProducts.com for Canon PIXMA PRO-10 ink cartridges and save time & money. Easy to order and ships fast.

www.ldproducts.com

They have a service desk you can reach and should tell you what inks they use.

I don't have a Pro-10 and apologize for trying to help. That's the nature of this forum. We try to help. I do have about 15 printers and more than 20 years experience in inkjet printing with both pigment and dye inks.

 

[Gesture]

OP: When going for 3rd party carts, be alert to dye ink being used in what is a pigment ink printer.

This is the only 3rd party company I am familiar with for other printers:

https://www.ldproducts.com/Canon/Ink-Cartridge/PIXMA/PRO-10/9510-Printer.html

They have a service desk you can reach and should tell you what inks they use.

 

[richardD300]

Thank you. However, I’m really looking for someone who has experience of using a brand of 3rd party inks themselves.

As no one so far gave a recommendation for good third-party inks, I would give two ink suppliers a try. Precision colors: https://precisioncolors.com/canon.html Jose Rodriguez highly recommends theses inks as a perfect match. For the Pro 10: https://precisioncolors.com/C10B.html

The other company is Octo inks. In terms of longevity againt fading, I think their inks are best. https://www.octoink.co.uk/finishorder.php

BTW, always only use OEM cartridges to fill with 3rd party inks.

Thank you. As stated, precisioncolors no longer deliver to the U.K. however, I’ve researched your suggestion of Octo inks and will take this up. The price is very good, so not much to loose if it doesn’t work out.

thanks again.

 

[richardD300]

OP: When going for 3rd party carts, be alert to dye ink being used in what is a pigment ink printer.

This is the only 3rd party company I am familiar with for other printers:

https://www.ldproducts.com/Canon/Ink-Cartridge/PIXMA/PRO-10/9510-Printer.html

They have a service desk you can reach and should tell you what inks they use.

Thanks, but this is US not U.K. I appreciate the reply.

 

[mike earussi]

When I bought my Canon ipf6400 (used) it was filled with InkOwl ink. I experimented with it for a while before replacing them with OEM (I sell my prints so can't use 3rd party ink) and found InkOwl to be a perfect match for OEM.

 

[richardD300]

When I bought my Canon ipf6400 (used) it was filled with InkOwl ink. I experimented with it for a while before replacing them with OEM (I sell my prints so can't use 3rd party ink) and found InkOwl to be a perfect match for OEM.

Thank you. Ink Owl does dispatch to the U.K., however I’d prefer to find a U.K. based company. But I appreciate your comment.

 

[Gesture]

Sounds like you are not interested in refilling OEM carts with pigment ink. What have you decided on?

 

[richardD300]

Sounds like you are not interested in refilling OEM carts with pigment ink. What have you decided on?

No, I’m not going down that route. It’s a large investment and I know of two people, one who used to use Precision Inks before they stopped exporting, the other Octo Inks in the U.K. One has gone back to OEM cartridges, the other is now using commercial printers. Their reasons were that they found refilling both messy and it didn’t always give the results promised.

I think I’m going to give up on 3rd party inks, but occasionally continue to use OEM. Over the last week I have perfected using DSCL here in the U.K. having placed 3 orders. I found I was not preparing the prints properly. The first were returned dark, the second better, but after recalibrating my monitor and embedding their paper profiles the last 5 16 x 12 inch prints were perfect.

On the basis that I print about 30-40 large prints a year, I think that the mix of OEM and commercial will save both my sanity as well as wasted ink and paper. I’ve always felt that digital printing is a dark art, unlike the old darkroom.

Thank you for all your comments.