Question on D1x

[Eric Chiu]

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000, so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

 

[Anthony Medici]

I'm not sure why you want to change. Is there a specific issue that you are having with the D100 that would make you want the D1X? If you don't have a specific reason, I don't see the need to change.

--
Tony

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I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

 

[Irwin]

The D100 uses a CAM900 AF system while the D1X uses a CAM1300 system which is supposed to be a lot faster. As asked by someone else, why do you want to switch? Do you need the faster AF?

 

[Eric Chiu]

Thanks for your replies. In fact, I am quite happy with my D100. The reason why I am thinking of moving from D100 to D1x is because the recent price drop in D1x. Besides, someone told me that both the focusing and metering of D1x are far better than D100. However, I have just read a review about D1s which said that it is only a 4 maga pixels camera and the figure of 5 mega pixels is achieved by way of interpolation.

If I at the end of the day decide not to buy the D1x, I may use the original budget to buy a 28-70 AFS lens which I have been thinking about for quite a long time.

So the question is a new lens or a D1x? Which choice is more sensible?

Thanks.

The D100 uses a CAM900 AF system while the D1X uses a CAM1300
system which is supposed to be a lot faster. As asked by someone
else, why do you want to switch? Do you need the faster AF?

 

[Irwin]

I'm not sure about the metering but is a faster AF that important to you? Do you shoot sports or fast moving objects? The D1X does have a more durable body although the D100 is still very well built. I thought the D1x is slightly over 5 mp. I'm not sure about it being 4 mp. If your happy with your D100 and it fits your needs then get a new lens.

If I at the end of the day decide not to buy the D1x, I may use the
original budget to buy a 28-70 AFS lens which I have been thinking
about for quite a long time.

So the question is a new lens or a D1x? Which choice is more
sensible?

Thanks.

The D100 uses a CAM900 AF system while the D1X uses a CAM1300
system which is supposed to be a lot faster. As asked by someone
else, why do you want to switch? Do you need the faster AF?

 

[christopher19826]

The D1X uses the CAM 1300 (same as the F5 and F100) autofocus system and the D100 uses the CAM 900 (same as the N80). The two systems have very different characteristics.

The CAM1300 focuses much faster and gives an accurate lock much quicker(especially with non-AFS lenses). It also has additional cross hatches at the focus points that helps it focus better in portrait mode and with situations that have the subjects with vertical and horizontal lines parallel to the top and or side of the frame.

The D1X is a pro body (significantly more rugged and waterproofed and built like a tank) while the D100 is a prosumer body(built well, but not at the same level as the D1X).

The continuous shot frame rate is higher, the buffer is larger and can be upgraded. It also flushes faster to the CF card.

Max Flash synch speed on the D1X is 1/500 of a second while the max on the D100 is 1/180.

I read on the forum that the expected shutter curtain life on the D100 was 30,000 frames. Elsewhere I read that the D1X is somewhere north of 200,000 frames. I already have shot 10,000.

The D1X weighs 2.5 lbs empty while the D100 is approx. half of that.

The D100 has slightly more resolution (theorectically). The D100 has native 6MP while the D1X is 5.47mp. The D1x can however interpolate to a 10MP file with outstanding results.

It's battery is superior and lasts longer in the field (depending upon your usage).

Whether all the above is worth the difference in price is up to you.

I own a D1X and have no regrets or thought of buying a D100.
My next purchase will be a D2x or whatever it will be named.

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

 

[Group Idiot]

It has a funky sensor with very high horizontal resolution and very low vertical resolution. In-camera software performs some interpolated legerdemain that renders the final image undistorted.

Most likely the D1x replacement will have a similar CCD with the proper number of vertical pixels to eliminate the interpolation and bring the count up to 12MP actual.

Brendan
--
If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, I'm the world's most dangerous man!
Bunch of new photos at: http://www.pbase.com/bgetchel/root

 

[Group Idiot]

It's battery is superior and lasts longer in the field (depending
upon your usage).

If you're saying the D1x has a superior battery and lasts longer than the D100, you are dead mistaken.

The D100 absolutely trounces the D1x batter life by a factor of 5X or more. Most people are fortunate to get 300 shots on a single D1x NiMH charge from a new, properly conditioned battery. I've shot 1,800+ shots on one charge (MB-D100) with no signs of letting up -- including LCD viewing, etc.

In fact, the battery is the one D1x weak link that every D1x owner I know of cites.

Brendan
--
If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, I'm the world's most dangerous man!
Bunch of new photos at: http://www.pbase.com/bgetchel/root

 

[christopher19826]

You are correct. I noticed the mistake when I sent it. That battery statement was actually supposed to follow the positives of the D100.

I still have had good luck with my D1X geting 150 to 175 NEF shots per charge with LCD review and Microdrive usage.
I agree Lithium Ion technology is better.

It's battery is superior and lasts longer in the field (depending
upon your usage).

If you're saying the D1x has a superior battery and lasts longer
than the D100, you are dead mistaken.

The D100 absolutely trounces the D1x batter life by a factor of 5X
or more. Most people are fortunate to get 300 shots on a single
D1x NiMH charge from a new, properly conditioned battery. I've shot
1,800+ shots on one charge (MB-D100) with no signs of letting up --
including LCD viewing, etc.

In fact, the battery is the one D1x weak link that every D1x owner
I know of cites.

Brendan
--
If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, I'm the world's most
dangerous man!
Bunch of new photos at: http://www.pbase.com/bgetchel/root

 

[joseph shtekler]

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

Hi
D100 is a toy compare to D1X

 

[Thom Hogan]

The D1X uses the CAM 1300 (same as the F5 and F100) autofocus
system and the D100 uses the CAM 900 (same as the N80). The two
systems have very different characteristics.
The CAM1300 focuses much faster and gives an accurate lock much
quicker(especially with non-AFS lenses).

Let's be accurate here. The CAM900 and CAM1300 are only the sensor modules for the AF system. The central sensor is exactly the same on both, thus, with an AF-S lens using only the central sensor, the D100 and D1x would focus exactly at the same speed and have the same lock-on capabilities. The CAM1300 sensor expands that excellent center sensor to both the left and right sensors while the CAM900 uses less capable left and right sensors. First, the D1x would be sensitive to detail in either direction (horz and vert) in the left and right sensors, while the D100 wouldn't. Moreover, the CAM1300 sensor in the D1x has low light capabilities in the left and right sensor, which the D100 doesn't.

So, the net result is this: if you shoot in low light situations, use dynamic focus with subjects that move from sensor to sensor, or frame off center subjects often, then the D1x would focus faster with the same lens than the D100.

The D1X is a pro body (significantly more rugged and waterproofed
and built like a tank) while the D100 is a prosumer body(built
well, but not at the same level as the D1X).
The continuous shot frame rate is higher, the buffer is larger and
can be upgraded.

Yes.

It also flushes faster to the CF card.

That isn't supported by the evidence, methinks. (Assuming "it" is the D1x.) Each generation of Nikon hardware seems to be slightly faster than the previous.

Max Flash synch speed on the D1X is 1/500 of a second while the max
on the D100 is 1/180.

Yes.

I read on the forum that the expected shutter curtain life on the
D100 was 30,000 frames. Elsewhere I read that the D1X is somewhere
north of 200,000 frames. I already have shot 10,000.

I'm going to have to quibble with the word "expected." That would be a mean-time-before-failure statistic, which is NOT what Nikon published for the N80 (to my knowledge, they haven't published anything for the D100 or D1 series). What Nikon originally said was a "minimum of 30k" exposures, which is not a MTBF number.

The D100 has slightly more resolution (theorectically). The D100
has native 6MP while the D1X is 5.47mp. The D1x can however
interpolate to a 10MP file with outstanding results.
It's battery is superior and lasts longer in the field (depending
upon your usage).

"It" being what? The D100 battery is superior to the D1 battery, by far, IMHO. Not only is it lithium and more impervious to cold than the D1 battery, but the D1 battery loses a bit of charge (3%) a day when not in use, has a larger less convenient charger, and generally doesn't last as many shots in my experience, all else being equal.

--
Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide & Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guides to the Nikon D100, D1, D1h, & D1x and Fujifilm S2
http://www.bythom.com

 

[Ejoy]

I am very curious to hear more specifics behind your sentiment, particularly as it relates to general photographic use. By this I mean, not the 150 degree day in Arizona when you are chasing gnats across the desert. Please post. Thanks.

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

Hi
D100 is a toy compare to D1X

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

Let's face it - the D100 is a toy compared to its bigger brother, the D1X.

The D1X is the result of the F100/F5 and the D100 the result of the N80.

The F100 and F5 have outstanding ergonomics and button location. Changing ISO, WB and the like are a snap on systems like this. The D100 however it's much more time consuming.

And to be frank, I own the D1X, D1H and the D100. I -NEVER- get awesome colours straight from the D100 - I always have to post-process the image, and even then it isn't on par with the D1X images.

When I shoot with the D1H and D1X I never have to post process unless I want to add an unsharp mask and upscale it. The contrast and colour are always, and I repeat, always spot on.

The D1X image really has the Velvia feel to it. No post processing or custom curves required.

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

Hi
D100 is a toy compare to D1X

--
'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.'

 

[Ejoy]

Sounds great. I had heard that the D1X is very "Velvia-esque." I love the D100, but have never used the F5 or F100, except for a few minutes in the store. As such, when I think of paying $2000 for a "toy" (before lenses) it's like wow, what am I missing? Is it worth me selling the D100 and paying almost $4000 for another machine? Does it really have more than $2000 worth of extras ($3800 D1X - $1700 D100)? That thing must get itself in position and take the pictures FOR me! WHOA! Oh well...I'll keep using the D100, and will considering purchasing the D1X update, if I so choose. Just wondering. Thanks for shedding light.

The D1X is the result of the F100/F5 and the D100 the result of the
N80.

The F100 and F5 have outstanding ergonomics and button location.
Changing ISO, WB and the like are a snap on systems like this. The
D100 however it's much more time consuming.

And to be frank, I own the D1X, D1H and the D100. I -NEVER- get
awesome colours straight from the D100 - I always have to
post-process the image, and even then it isn't on par with the D1X
images.

When I shoot with the D1H and D1X I never have to post process
unless I want to add an unsharp mask and upscale it. The contrast
and colour are always, and I repeat, always spot on.

The D1X image really has the Velvia feel to it. No post processing
or custom curves required.

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

Hi
D100 is a toy compare to D1X

--
'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.'

 

[baker145346]

Helpful information on this thread!

For what it's worth, I'm counting on paying less that 3 grand for a D1X as an upgrade from my D1. At least three mail order companies in May Photographic are offering discounted prices, one as low as $2,650 with the D1H a little less.

bakerxxxxx

The D1X is the result of the F100/F5 and the D100 the result of the
N80.

The F100 and F5 have outstanding ergonomics and button location.
Changing ISO, WB and the like are a snap on systems like this. The
D100 however it's much more time consuming.

And to be frank, I own the D1X, D1H and the D100. I -NEVER- get
awesome colours straight from the D100 - I always have to
post-process the image, and even then it isn't on par with the D1X
images.

When I shoot with the D1H and D1X I never have to post process
unless I want to add an unsharp mask and upscale it. The contrast
and colour are always, and I repeat, always spot on.

The D1X image really has the Velvia feel to it. No post processing
or custom curves required.

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

Hi
D100 is a toy compare to D1X

--
'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.'

 

[Bills nature photo]

If you were spending your money on a film camera, would you but an F5 or would you buy an N-80 and the 28-70 f2.8?

The D1X is really more of a hybrid between the F100 and the F5 in that it doesn't have removeable finder, but it does get the color sensitive matrix metering, and the much better and stronger focusing system.

If you are shooting studio, stills or subjects in good light the D100 is a great camera. If you are shooting wildlife at dawn or dust in marginal light, the focus system in the D1X is a huge improvment over the D100.

Image quality is about the same
Battery is much better in D100

Bill

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

 

[KJohnston]

Are you a professional? I am not a professional but enjoy good photographs. I own the D100 and my friend just bought the d1x.( We both have the same lens.(nikkor 80-200 af) So far, When we compare photos, I am just as happy with mine! I get good action shots at swim meets and track meets and a 2 year old boy running around. I also get good landscape shots! We have been doing a lot of the same shots to test our cameras and my thoughts are, that unless you are a professional, learn to use all the features of your camera, learn them well and enjoy! Technology changes sooooo fast that in a year or so something bigger and better will be on the market that will change digital photography... maybe at that point I will spring for the bigger bucks! If you are a professional and will be lugging your camera all over the place in severe weather and plan on taking huge numbers of pictures then maybe the D1x is for you! The D1x is also heavier, my wrist and back hurt after a couple of hours of holding my D100! You just need to look at what it is that you need from a camera and what your budget is! For now, I am thrilled with my D100 and I will wait until the next generation of digital cameras before I bite! I kind of think of cameras like I think of computers, you buy them and in 6 months there are new, bigger and faster for less money! lol jmho

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

 

[Adrian Seah]

For me, the most important factor for getting a D1x over a D100 is the flash sync speed. With the D1x, I can do outdoor portrait at 1/500 sec which give me more choices intend of depth-of-field compare to 1/180 with D100. The negative is of course D1x doe takes alot of battery power and is much heavier.

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

--
Adrian

 

[Hendrik van der Veen]

The weight has never been a problem, but a positive aspect. I like the feeling and grip of the body. When I shoot with my old f8001s SLR, It feels like a toy camera.

The main problem with the D1X is when you get used to that camera, everything less feels bad.

I have a D100 and is thinking of selling it and buy a D1x. What
are the differences between two? A post here said that the focus
system of D1x is better then D100, why is that?

Because if I proceed with the change, I have to pay about US$2,000,
so I want to make sure that the difference in performance between
two cameras is worth the price.

Thanks.

--
Adrian

 

[Ger Bee]

......... Ok to start with the D100 has ALL the problems with the D1x tackled within its packaging.

So in all round performance the D100 beats the pants and underwear off the D1x.

But it will depend on your specialised photography. Studio to the D1x – no question. Available light work, sports and image quality all to the D1x.

The D1x is superior in the AF department overall by a significant margin but again the D100 has it licked in one area, so it depends on your photography if this one area will be an Achilles heel to you for instance.

As well as myriad of problems not known on the D100 the D1x also needs massive amounts of power to keep it going.

If you have used a D100 then one is stepping backwards to use a D1x and you will be disappointed. However, I must stress it depends on your chosen specialist field of activity. The D1x is a pretty substantial beast and is an excellent all weather performer in many, many areas but as a general purpose camera it is difficult to use and not as accurate or reliable as the D100.