So, who's waiting for the Voigtlander 50mm f/1.0?

[Sjak]

It will be released end of this month. Looks like an interesting ultra-fast lens, and also of a more modest weight than the alternatives from TT Artisan and Leica. A local retailer has it listed already, and seems it will cost 1750 euro.

The few things I could find about it look promising. And it could be a very useful lens for my pub&club-shooting.

Who else is interested?

 

[one blind eye]

It will be released end of this month. Looks like an interesting ultra-fast lens, and also of a more modest weight than the alternatives from TT Artisan and Leica. A local retailer has it listed already, and seems it will cost 1750 euro.

The few things I could find about it look promising. And it could be a very useful lens for my pub&club-shooting.

Who else is interested?

Pass.

 

[Fazal Majid]

Interesting. Almost certainly far superior to the TT Artisans.

I had the Mandler 50/1.0 Noctilux, and sold it off when it was discontinued and became a collector’s item overnight, for a substantial profit since I had purchased it used. The vignetting meant it wasn’t that much faster than a Summilux in practice, and the very long focus throw made it very slow to use. That and the VF obstruction meant I didn’t use it often enough to earn its keep.

 

[BostonBoy]

I have the lens on order with my local dealer.

 

[Sjak]

Interesting. Almost certainly far superior to the TT Artisans.

And considerably smaller and lighter.

I had the Mandler 50/1.0 Noctilux, and sold it off when it was discontinued and became a collector’s item overnight, for a substantial profit since I had purchased it used. The vignetting meant it wasn’t that much faster than a Summilux in practice, and the very long focus throw made it very slow to use. That and the VF obstruction meant I didn’t use it often enough to earn its keep.

I've never used that particular lens, but read similar reports to yours on it. So to me, it's certainly not worth the substantial price. It seems that this new Nokton may address most or all of these concerns.

 

[Sjak]

I have the lens on order with my local dealer.

Nice! Please share your experience when you've had the chance to give it a spin!

 

[Streetz]

Thanks for the alert, I hadn't been aware of this lens. I am no longer an M shooter (CL and S system these days), but had the original 0.95 as my daily driver on my M9 for some years. Amazing combination, that. Recently I rented (one doesn't always have to own) the Voigt 75 f1.5 Nokton for my CL, and if that lens is anything to go by, the lens you are referring to will technically and optically be quite an appetizing offering. I'll be following this space, so thanks again for the pointer.


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[BostonBoy]

I have the lens on order with my local dealer.

Nice! Please share your experience when you've had the chance to give it a spin!

I will. I plan two test:

1.) on the M10R of cause. I have an old V3 Nocticron F1 to contrast and compare.

2.) Adapted on the GFX100S in 1-to-1 (call it "6x6") to find out if I get around Vignetting in Medium Format - or not.

Stay tuned!

- R

 

[Sjak]

1.) on the M10R of cause. I have an old V3 Nocticron F1 to contrast and compare.

Nice!

2.) Adapted on the GFX100S in 1-to-1 (call it "6x6") to find out if I get around Vignetting in Medium Format - or not.

I think one of the demo-videos I've seen, the lens was also tested on a GFX. I'll look it up, it was from a German or Austrian retailer IIRC.

 

[Fazal Majid]

Interesting. Almost certainly far superior to the TT Artisans.

And considerably smaller and lighter.

Yes. They are not even remotely in the same ballpark. Not even the same continent.

I had the Mandler 50/1.0 Noctilux, and sold it off when it was discontinued and became a collector’s item overnight, for a substantial profit since I had purchased it used. The vignetting meant it wasn’t that much faster than a Summilux in practice, and the very long focus throw made it very slow to use. That and the VF obstruction meant I didn’t use it often enough to earn its keep.

I've never used that particular lens, but read similar reports to yours on it. So to me, it's certainly not worth the substantial price. It seems that this new Nokton may address most or all of these concerns.

If it's as good as the Apo-Lanthar Aspherical, I may sell my 50 Summilux ASPH to get a fast option.

 

[Sjak]

If it's as good as the Apo-Lanthar Aspherical, I may sell my 50 Summilux ASPH to get a fast option.

My personal expectation is that the 1.0 will be more of a character-lens, at least at wider apertures.

But there's also the 1.2/50 Nokton, which seems impressive, and some people here have sold their 'lux ASPH because of that lens. Myself I haven't used either so I cannot comment based on personal experience. I do have the 1.2/40 Nokton, and I'm very pleased with that lens, both in rendering and in mechanical quality.

 

[BostonBoy]

If it's as good as the Apo-Lanthar Aspherical, I may sell my 50 Summilux ASPH to get a fast option.

My personal expectation is that the 1.0 will be more of a character-lens, at least at wider apertures.

But there's also the 1.2/50 Nokton, which seems impressive, and some people here have sold their 'lux ASPH because of that lens. Myself I haven't used either so I cannot comment based on personal experience. I do have the 1.2/40 Nokton, and I'm very pleased with that lens, both in rendering and in mechanical quality.

The Voigtländer VM f1.2 Nokton is very impressive. Two samples attached; I shared at least one of them here before. Do I need even less DoF? Certainly not. Can a photographer have too many 50mm lenses? Certainly not either…

 

[BostonBoy]

1.) on the M10R of cause. I have an old V3 Nocticron F1 to contrast and compare.

Nice!

2.) Adapted on the GFX100S in 1-to-1 (call it "6x6") to find out if I get around Vignetting in Medium Format - or not.

I think one of the demo-videos I've seen, the lens was also tested on a GFX. I'll look it up, it was from a German or Austrian retailer IIRC.

Thanks for the hint. I think I found the video. It was made by the distributor „Ringfoto“ and is posted prominently on their web site: https://www.voigtlaender.de/objektive/vm/50-mm-11-nokton/

Looks like my 2nd question has already been answered!

 

[GXAlan]

If it's as good as the Apo-Lanthar Aspherical, I may sell my 50 Summilux ASPH to get a fast option.

My personal expectation is that the 1.0 will be more of a character-lens, at least at wider apertures.

But there's also the 1.2/50 Nokton, which seems impressive, and some people here have sold their 'lux ASPH because of that lens. Myself I haven't used either so I cannot comment based on personal experience. I do have the 1.2/40 Nokton, and I'm very pleased with that lens, both in rendering and in mechanical quality.

Voigtländer is a tough company to predict. Cosina (Voigtländer) manufactures the Zeiss Otus and Milvus line. They are very capable of premium optics, not unlike Sigma.

Most Voigtländers have been character lenses but their other $1800 is the 28mm f0.8 for m43 (!). Performance is reportedly smoother across the frame than Canon 50/1.2’s that are speedboosted, although center sharpness is not as good.

 

[Rexgig0]

It will be released end of this month. Looks like an interesting ultra-fast lens, and also of a more modest weight than the alternatives from TT Artisan and Leica. A local retailer has it listed already, and seems it will cost 1750 euro.

The few things I could find about it look promising. And it could be a very useful lens for my pub&club-shooting.

Who else is interested?

Well, first, thanks for starting this discussion, as it reminded me that I had been wanting to try the CV 50mm f/1.1 version, but it had slipped my mind, due to various distractions. As for the f/1.0, well, yes, I will be paying attention, but will probably wait until I have seen user reports and images, rather than be an early adopter.

Any M-mount 50mm, that is a full stop faster than my Summilux-M 50 ASPH, is worth a long look.

I had noticed, in the ISO comparison of the M10-P, the M10 Monochrom, and the M Type 246 Monochrom, plus one of the SL-series cameras, posted at Red Dot Forum, that the 246 did quite well, when compared with the newer Monochrom, through much of the ISO range. So, as a user of the 246 Monochrom, who likes to shoot in the evening and at night, but also being a retiree, with my income significantly decreasing in a few months, as bi-weekly compensation for my unused leave time runs out, I am taking a look at decent faster lenses, as an alternative to acquiring an M10 Monochrom.

I plan to keep my Summilux-M 50mm ASPH forever, as it was my first love among Leica M lenses, the lens that lured me into adding the Leica M ssystem, in the first place, but there will be times when a 50mm f/1.0 lens would have a role to play.

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By accident of availability, I learned to use Canon and Nikon DSLRs at the same time. I love specific lenses made by both Canon and Nikon, too much to quit either system. Since 2018, Leica-M has been my “mirror-less” system. I am, certainly, not an expert.

 

[blessingx]

I have an order in as all signs point to smaller fulfillments at start. Will allow a few reviews to come in while I wait and decide to cancel or proceed. And I already have the 50 Nokton f/1.2, 50 APO-Lanthar f/2, 50 Nokton f/1.5, and Heliar 50 f/3.5. They, of course, won't all stay, but cautiously optimistic as there have been steady CV improvements over the years.

 

[Rexgig0]

I wanted to express my gratitude, for this valuable discussion. Thanks, for all of the informative posts.

As I indicated in my previous reply post, I am trying to find fast lenses that enhance the utility of the Leica M type 246, in low light, rather than “upgrade” to an M10 Monochrom.

 

[blessingx]

I see CameraQuest is now listing January and March preorders are sold out. You can reserve with a deposit for April at this point.

 

[Rexgig0]

I see CameraQuest is now listing January and March preorders are sold out. You can reserve with a deposit for April at this point.

I saw that, on the Camera Quest site. I am avoiding spending anything substantial on photography gear, until April, anyway. January is property tax time, in Texas; the tax collector will be getting what amounts to the price of a new M camera, probably on a credit card, and I will raid my retirement savings, in early March, during the quarterly request period, to pay off the credit card.

Not wanting to count chickens, before they hatch, I may not even want to place a deposit, until late March.

I will be patient; only occasionally reminding myself of those two aspherical elements.

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By accident of availability, I learned to use Canon and Nikon DSLRs at the same time. I love specific lenses made by both Canon and Nikon, too much to quit either system. Since 2018, Leica-M has been my “mirror-less” system. I am, certainly, not an expert.

 

[Jay OC]

Has anyone used this lens? I am considering it for my CL. Another option would be the 35 f1.7. I am more interested in the 21 for the additional field of view.