Olympus E-M1 II review: flawed gem

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I have had my E-M1 II with the latest 3.5 firmware since October 2021 and have enjoyed using it. First some background: When it comes to m4/3 I also own the Olympus PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, E-M5, Panasonic GX7 II, G3, about a dozen m4/3 lenses, and a flash. I started with m4/3 in April 2012 so have extensive experience with it. Before that I used Canon, Sony, and Konica Minolta DSLRs. Also, of course, various non-ILC digital cameras since January 2000 and also many years of film SLRs and other film cameras before switching completely to digital in 2002. I will just provide some info about things I have discovered. I am not interested in repeating just a bunch of stuff that you can easily read in reviews all over the internet. Most of what I will write are things I never saw in any reviews. Also, just some of my impressions and things I like and dislike.

Just a heads up reminder for people: Most of the reviews of this camera you read or watch on youtube were done with firmware 1.0 or some version not long afterwards. There have been many new firmware versions since the camera came out in 2016 that added features, improved performance in several ways, and fixed bugs. You can see what changed in the many firmware versions here:

https://www.olympus-europa.com/site/en/c/cameras_support/downloads/e_m1_mark_ii_downloads.html

I like that the IBIS is even better than the already great IBIS in my other Olympus bodies. I also like that the electronic shutter read out time is 1/60 second rather than the 1/20 second on my PEN-F and E-M10 II. Less chance of rolling shutter effects. 1/60 second actually was the common X-sync speed for 35mm SLRs with horizontal focal plane shutters in the 1960s and early 1970s. Later vertical traveling Copal focal plane shutters became common and the X-sync changed to 1/125 second.

I also like that with Auto ISO and the electronic shutter I can set the minimum shutter speed in the menu, like the PEN-F can. My E-M10 II cannot do that, but does have an old kludge that allows you to do it for the mechanical shutter (same for the E-M10 and E-M5).

The E-M1 II only has 3 Custom modes on the mode dial, but my PEN-F has 4. My E-M10 II and E-M10 have 4 MySets that can be set to the mode dial so this is basically the same as the newer name where Olympus calls them Custom modes. I certainly can get by with 3, but 4 was just right for me when I am traveling. It is strange that the flagship E-M1 II was downgraded in this regard compared to my other Olympus bodies.

The menu has more items than my other Olympus bodies. Mostly because there are many more items related to AF. The E-M1 II has both PDAF and CDAF so performs much better using C-AF than my other bodies. I never use C-AF though so I don't care about this. It also gives good AF with old 4/3 DSLR lenses with the Olympus adapter.

I set mine up so that when the rear lever is set to 1 then I get the default behavior where pressing the shutter button also performs AF. When it is set to 2 though I have mine set to use back-button AF using the button inside the lever control. In addition, what that means is that switching to 2 means I also instantly switch to MF with focus peaking. Although I mostly use 1 it is very nice to sometimes very easily be able to change to 2.

I discovered something in my E-M1 II that I really like. If you go into the cog menu -> D2 -> Default Settings and then select Equally Value then when you hit the playback button to review a photo and want to zoom in using the rear control wheel then just one click of the wheel will immediately zoom into 1:1 to make it easy to check focus. I can turn more and zoom in more, of course. On the rear display at the bottom there is a small icon that tells you 1:1. I could do this years ago with my Sony A700, but couldn't with my Canon 60D and 30D so I would have to do multiple zooms to get to 1:1. My PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, E-M5, and GX7 II can't seem to do that either so I have to zoom in several times to get to 1:1. Then press OK to go back to the full photo view. Yeah, I know, Equally Value is another lame Olympus name in the menu. :-)

The shutter button is very sensitive. More so than any other camera I have owned, but after awhile I have become accustomed to it. It is easy to accidentally take a photo when you are just trying to half-press to AF, but that happens less now than it did in the first few weeks I had the camera. Recently I wore some thin gloves on a cold day though and got some accidental shots. I have worn these same thin gloves and used my other cameras and never had any accidental shots.

I think the E-M1 II body style and ergonomics are mostly excellent. I have smaller bodies that I like to use, but when I am using this somewhat bigger/heavier body I have found myself thinking that it could use an additional 5-10mm in height. I have medium size hands and my little finger barely fits on the grip. There just seems to be a need for a few more millimeter. I would not want to add weight, but I am thinking about getting one of those leather half-cases because they have a 5-6mm base that screws into the tripod mount. I have one for my PEN-F and it is very light, but adds a little to the height and in the case of the PEN-F it also provides a bit more grip to the front.

Now the biggie. There is a problem with the E-M1 II EVF firmware that doesn't exist in any of my other Olympus bodies. The problem with the E-M1 II is not the EVF hardware (which is quite good), it is a bug/deficiency in the firmware that doesn't exist in the PEN-F (OLED), E-M10 II (OLED), E-M10 (TFT LCD), etc. Since the last firmware is 3.5 and the E-M1 II is no longer a current flagship model it is very unlikely that OMDS will fix this bug. Specifically the Auto Luminance setting is broken in this model. I dug into the problem and wrote about it in detail in the following 3 posts. You need to read them to understand what is wrong with the E-M1 II firmware and what the ramifications are:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65667502

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65721962

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65730373

I would give the E-M1 II 4.5 stars, but to me this EVF problem is serious so for that reason I give it 2.5 stars. :-( It pains me to do so, but the EVF is vital and Olympus screwed up here. Yet they got it right in their other, earlier, and contemporary models that were less expensive. It is unforgivable in their flagship model to screw this simple thing up and then not fix it in later firmware versions. For the last 5 years I have seen many posts from people expressing disappointment in the E-M1 II EVF, but no one investigated and went into detail like I did about what was wrong and narrowed it down like I did. Certainly the EVF is still very usable and the camera has many other great things going for it, but that just makes this Olympus blunder even more annoying.

The E-M1 II is as good or better in almost every way compared to my other Olympus bodies. It is a pleasure to use except for the poor EVF. If you can live with an EVF that is in some real day-to-day usage ways that is not as good as the E-M10 II, etc. EVFs and you don't mind or want a bigger/heavier/weather-sealed body then this is a good one to get.

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Now the biggie. There is a problem with the E-M1 II EVF firmware that doesn't exist in any of my other Olympus bodies. The problem with the E-M1 II is not the EVF hardware (which is quite good), it is a bug/deficiency in the firmware that doesn't exist in the PEN-F (OLED), E-M10 II (OLED), E-M10 (TFT LCD), etc. Since the last firmware is 3.5 and the E-M1 II is no longer a current flagship model it is very unlikely that OMDS will fix this bug. Specifically the Auto Luminance setting is broken in this model. I dug into the problem and wrote about it in detail in the following 3 posts. You need to read them to understand what is wrong with the E-M1 II firmware and what the ramifications are:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65667502

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65721962

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65730373

I would give the E-M1 II 4.5 stars, but to me this EVF problem is serious so for that reason I give it 2.5 stars. :-( It pains me to do so, but the EVF is vital and Olympus screwed up here.
I still don’t get your issue. It must be something wrong with either your camera or a basic setting of yours. Or I’m just too thick to see the problem.

Here are two pictures taken with lots of EV compensation either side of ‘normal’ and quick pictures taken through my viewfinder with near enough the same settings using iPhone. If I ventured past 3EV variance either side of centre the bars will blink red as a warning that the actual exposure will vary from that seen in the viewfinder.

EV -2.7
EV -2.7

EV -3
EV -3

EV +2
EV +2

EV +2
EV +2

The difference between the first two is down to one having more EV- than the other and my technique. In practice the EVF image accurately reflects the image in the exposure file taken, just as it does in the second pair where I got my act together.

As far as I can tell the EVF and LCD behave identically in this respect to my E-M10 MkII and indeed to my Panasonic cameras.

Either you are missing something or I am. Honestly, I do not believe [yet] that it’s me.
 
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There is a bug in the dpreview software. My E-M1 II review was put automatically in the Olympus SLR forum instead of in the m4/3 forum. I checked and I discovered it does this for all E-M1 II reviews, but it properly puts E-M1, E-M1 III, etc. reviews in the m4/3 forum. I contacted the Olympus SLR forum mods yesterday to have them move it, but so far none of them have replied.

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The E-M1 II is as good or better in almost every way compared to my other Olympus bodies. It is a pleasure to use except for the poor EVF. If you can live with an EVF that is in some real day-to-day usage ways that is not as good as the E-M10 II, etc. EVFs and you don't mind or want a bigger/heavier/weather-sealed body then this is a good one to get.
For people who always use the rear screen and not the EVF then the E-M1 II is great, I suspect. I almost always use the EVF though so it is just an educated guess that using the rear screen will work just fine, like it does for most cameras.

I have seen youtube video reviews, etc. with people using FF mirrorless cameras with a 70-200mm f2.8 and other lenses holding the camera out in front of them using the rear screen rather than the EVF so it seems lots of people just don't use a viewfinder these days.

I suppose in m4/3 land some people may use the E-M1X + 150-400mm f4.5 and hold it out in front of them and compose using the rear screen.

This may be a clue why Olympus felt having a really good, well working EVF is not a priority anymore. At least for the flagship camera. The lower level cameras have good, well working EVFs.

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I’m not sure that I fully understand this issue, despite reading your posts more than once. However, it’s never been a problem for me.

Andrew

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The E-M1 II is as good or better in almost every way compared to my other Olympus bodies. It is a pleasure to use except for the poor EVF. If you can live with an EVF that is in some real day-to-day usage ways that is not as good as the E-M10 II, etc. EVFs and you don't mind or want a bigger/heavier/weather-sealed body then this is a good one to get.
For people who always use the rear screen and not the EVF then the E-M1 II is great, I suspect. I almost always use the EVF though so it is just an educated guess that using the rear screen will work just fine, like it does for most cameras.

I have seen youtube video reviews, etc. with people using FF mirrorless cameras with a 70-200mm f2.8 and other lenses holding the camera out in front of them using the rear screen rather than the EVF so it seems lots of people just don't use a viewfinder these days.

I suppose in m4/3 land some people may use the E-M1X + 150-400mm f4.5 and hold it out in front of them and compose using the rear screen.

This may be a clue why Olympus felt having a good, well working EVF is not a priority anymore. At least for the flagship camera. The lower level cameras have good, well working EVFs.
Henry, I see an annoying EVF brightness variation when I’m in M-mode and I point the camera between shadows and bright scenes - almost as if the camera is changing EVF brightness to show details in the shadows or to stop clipping in the bright portion of the scene.

if I’m in a forest and there’s a spot of sunlight on the ground the change in EVF brightness is considerable, and worst with Spot metering.

In those situations I cannot trust the camera to be ‘wysiwyg’ and I need to chimp.

I reported this issue here several years ago and got no responses other than to be told I must have some errant camera setting.

I also reported that if I press the AEL button the green ‘AEL’ indicator lights up in the display and the EVF brightness variations stop. But I’m baffled as to the meaning of Exposure Lock when in M-mode with a fixed ISO.

My E-M1 III behaves the same.

Peter
 
The E-M1 II is as good or better in almost every way compared to my other Olympus bodies. It is a pleasure to use except for the poor EVF. If you can live with an EVF that is in some real day-to-day usage ways that is not as good as the E-M10 II, etc. EVFs and you don't mind or want a bigger/heavier/weather-sealed body then this is a good one to get.
For people who always use the rear screen and not the EVF then the E-M1 II is great, I suspect. I almost always use the EVF though so it is just an educated guess that using the rear screen will work just fine, like it does for most cameras.

I have seen youtube video reviews, etc. with people using FF mirrorless cameras with a 70-200mm f2.8 and other lenses holding the camera out in front of them using the rear screen rather than the EVF so it seems lots of people just don't use a viewfinder these days.

I suppose in m4/3 land some people may use the E-M1X + 150-400mm f4.5 and hold it out in front of them and compose using the rear screen.

This may be a clue why Olympus felt having a really good, well working EVF is not a priority anymore. At least for the flagship camera. The lower level cameras have good, well working EVFs.
Ask yourself why there are not droves of people knocking at your door in agreement about their E-M1 Mkii viewfinders, full of dismay at its dismal performance. Could it be that they, like myself, have it working perfectly as it should and as I’ve amply demonstrated, quite at variance to your experience?

Do you really believe that yours is the universal experience and that tens of thousands of experienced users of this model camera plus the many reviewers just haven’t noticed? I’m sure there must be a few that share your disappointing experience of a fundamentally important feature but they ain’t exactly queuing up behind you. Perhaps you would wish to ponder on that.
 
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Ask yourself why there are not droves of people knocking at your door in agreement about their E-M1 Mkii viewfinders, full of dismay at its dismal performance. Could it be that they, like myself, have it working perfectly as it should and as I’ve amply demonstrated, quite at variance to your experience?

Do you really believe that yours is the universal experience and that tens of thousands of experienced users of this model camera plus the many reviewers just haven’t noticed? I’m sure there must be a few that share your disappointing experience of a fundamentally important feature but they ain’t exactly queuing up behind you. Perhaps you would wish to ponder on that.
Do you really think I care about what other people experience? This is my review of the camera and my opinion. If it triggers you then that is your problem, not mine.

If you believe Auto Luminance (which is ON by default on the E-M1 II, PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.) works properly on the E-M1 II then why do you say you had to resort to turning it OFF to get what you consider an acceptable EVF view?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65669711

You agree with me that Auto Luminance is not working properly on this camera. But it does on the PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.

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If you believe Auto Luminance (which is ON by default on the E-M1 II, PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.) works properly on the E-M1 II then why do you say you had to resort to turning it OFF to get what you consider an acceptable EVF view?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65669711

You agree with me that Auto Luminance is not working properly on this camera. But it does on the PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.

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Ask yourself why there are not droves of people knocking at your door in agreement about their E-M1 Mkii viewfinders, full of dismay at its dismal performance. Could it be that they, like myself, have it working perfectly as it should and as I’ve amply demonstrated, quite at variance to your experience?

Do you really believe that yours is the universal experience and that tens of thousands of experienced users of this model camera plus the many reviewers just haven’t noticed? I’m sure there must be a few that share your disappointing experience of a fundamentally important feature but they ain’t exactly queuing up behind you. Perhaps you would wish to ponder on that.
Do you really think I care about what other people experience? This is my review of the camera and my opinion. If it triggers you then that is your problem, not mine.

If you believe Auto Luminance (which is ON by default on the E-M1 II, PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.) works properly on the E-M1 II then why do you say you had to resort to turning it OFF to get what you consider an acceptable EVF view?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65669711

You agree with me that Auto Luminance is not working properly on this camera. But it does on the PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.
Specifically because I wish both screens to reflect what the camera will actually record. Which is also why I turn down the EVF brightness in its setting to -1.

I do not use auto-luminance in either my E-M10 nor my E-M1 mk2 specifically for this reason.

You claim that I’m “triggered”. Actually it is you that is triggered by something that you care to post about repeatedly and will not be told or acknowledge that other people do not have your experience with the EVF on this model as I amply have demonstrated with examples in an above post. You are indeed triggered enough to copy and paste the above post twice, so I’ll copy and paste and post the same answer twice.
 
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Hello

As someone who used Olympus as his main digital camera system for over a decade, the middle part of your post reminded me how unnecessary complex and counterintuitive some of the ergonomics of the em1 and 5 models were.
your post reminded me of the “cog “ nightmare and other small but numerous flaws.


i am sooo glad I do not have to deal with those ergonomics anymore. The G9 ergonomics are so much easier and better organized that it is diffIcult to think my switching to Panasonic was less than three years ago 😳😌

Using the Panasonic system has really made a significant difference in my work days. Not to mention the durability difference 🤓

H
 
Give it up. With the EM-1 I you had to be very careful not to blow out highlights. With the EM-1 II that is not a problem as long as you don't overexpose. Just learn (quickly) what EV setting you like to use given your processing and then shoot that way!
 
Hello

As someone who used Olympus as his main digital camera system for over a decade, the middle part of your post reminded me how unnecessary complex and counterintuitive some of the ergonomics of the em1 and 5 models were.
your post reminded me of the “cog “ nightmare and other small but numerous flaws.

i am sooo glad I do not have to deal with those ergonomics anymore. The G9 ergonomics are so much easier and better organized that it is diffIcult to think my switching to Panasonic was less than three years ago 😳😌

Using the Panasonic system has really made a significant difference in my work days. Not to mention the durability difference 🤓
Yes, the EM-1 II has had about the best reliability of any of the m4/3 cameras.
 
If you believe Auto Luminance (which is ON by default on the E-M1 II, PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.) works properly on the E-M1 II then why do you say you had to resort to turning it OFF to get what you consider an acceptable EVF view?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65669711

You agree with me that Auto Luminance is not working properly on this camera. But it does on the PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.
Specifically because I wish both screens to reflect what the camera will actually record. Which is also why I turn down the EVF brightness in its setting to -1.

I do not use auto-luminance in either my E-M10 nor my E-M1 mk2 specifically for this reason.

You claim that I’m “triggered”. Actually it is you that is triggered by something that you care to post about repeatedly and will not be told or acknowledge that other people do not have your experience with the EVF on this model as I amply have demonstrated with examples in an above post. You are indeed triggered enough to copy and paste the above post twice, so I’ll copy and paste and post the same answer twice.
 
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Hello

As someone who used Olympus as his main digital camera system for over a decade, the middle part of your post reminded me how unnecessary complex and counterintuitive some of the ergonomics of the em1 and 5 models were.
your post reminded me of the “cog “ nightmare and other small but numerous flaws.

i am sooo glad I do not have to deal with those ergonomics anymore. The G9 ergonomics are so much easier and better organized that it is diffIcult to think my switching to Panasonic was less than three years ago 😳😌

Using the Panasonic system has really made a significant difference in my work days. Not to mention the durability difference 🤓
Yes, the EM-1 II has had about the best reliability of any of the m4/3 cameras.
That remains to be seen 🤪
 
I also have noticed that my two E-M1 II bodies display odd luminance/brightness behavior. Typically it’s when I am shooting indoors or in otherwise dim light and the EVF tends to gain up, making the scene seem brighter than it is. Later when I check the photos, everything is darker than I saw in the EVF. This loss of WYSIWYG is a pain, as WYSIWYG is why I switched to mirrorless.

I do not have Auto Luminance turned on, but I do have Shading Compensation turned on. As for general shooting habits, I shoot as close to ISO 200 as I can (rarely going over 640), in M mode, if that is relevant.

I don’t seem to recall this happening when I got my first E-M1 II, which was at firmware 3.2. After I got the second body, I upgraded both to 3.5, and now I wonder if something changed between versions. I now wish I had only upgraded one of the bodies, so I could compare.
 
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If you believe Auto Luminance (which is ON by default on the E-M1 II, PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.) works properly on the E-M1 II then why do you say you had to resort to turning it OFF to get what you consider an acceptable EVF view?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65669711

You agree with me that Auto Luminance is not working properly on this camera. But it does on the PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, etc.
your missing the point of auto luminance , its for day or night use not exposure ;-) so your eyes can adjust properly while using the camera in dark or light situations.

Ds
 
Hello

As someone who used Olympus as his main digital camera system for over a decade, the middle part of your post reminded me how unnecessary complex and counterintuitive some of the ergonomics of the em1 and 5 models were.
your post reminded me of the “cog “ nightmare and other small but numerous flaws.

i am sooo glad I do not have to deal with those ergonomics anymore. The G9 ergonomics are so much easier and better organized that it is diffIcult to think my switching to Panasonic was less than three years ago 😳😌

Using the Panasonic system has really made a significant difference in my work days. Not to mention the durability difference 🤓
Yes, the EM-1 II has had about the best reliability of any of the m4/3 cameras.
That remains to be seen 🤪
or image not seen 😜

Ds
 
Typically it’s when I am shooting indoors or in otherwise dim light and the EVF tends to gain up, making the scene seem brighter than it is. Later when I check the photos, everything is darker than I saw in the EVF. This loss of WYSIWYG is a pain, as WYSIWYG is why I switched to mirrorless.
Are you sure that you haven't turned Live View Boost on?
[..] I do have Shading Compensation turned on.
I don't know about the E-M1 II specifically, but Shading Comp is known to cause circular banding in dark areas, e.g. in night skies, and it is hard-coded in the raw data. I'd recommend that you turn it off unless you are confident that it doesn't affect your images.
 
Thanks for the tips! I confirm that Live View Boost is and has been turned off since I’ve used both bodies.
 

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