How to check the total shutter click count on my Fuji X-T3?

[mikhs1]

Hello...

I purchased my Fuji X-T3 about 2 years ago, used it a few times, and then... life got busy and I haven't touched it for a year and a half or so.

I love the camera and kept hoping to go back to regular shooting, but it's just not happening, so I decided to find it a good home...

The problem is that the battery ran out of juice so long ago, the camera seems to have reset to original factory settings and the shutter count says 2 ( the 2 test shots I took after recharging the battery - It made me go through the initial setup after I popped the battery back in as if it were brand new out of the box).

I tried researching on internet, but most sources would direct me to Fujifilm X-T3 Shutter Count: Online Actuations Checker (apotelyt.com)which would give me the actuation count of 2.

My guesstimate is about 300 clicks, but I want to be honest and accurate in my Craig's List ad.

There must be a way to determine the true total shutter click count.

Does anyone have any insight about how to do this?

Thank you in advance.

 

[missedshot]

This came up recently. This link worked with my xh1.https://www.apotelyt.com/camera-exif/fujifilm-shutter-count

 

[mikhs1]

Thanks, but this takes me to the same page I mentioned in my original post, which returns to me the number of clicks since I recharged the battery and reset the camera.

 

[crowley213]

As of my knowledge, based on communication with the Fuji service when I had my X-T3 in there for a repair, the shutter count will always start again from 0 when the camera mainboard is flashed / reset.

The only way to get as close as possible to the real shutter count is to upload an image to the stated webpage that was taken as close as possible before the shutter count was reset. The webpage reads out the shutter count from the image data, so uploading an old image will give to the shutter count at the moment when the image was taken.

Herbert

 

[Ringwraith69]

As of my knowledge, based on communication with the Fuji service when I had my X-T3 in there for a repair, the shutter count will always start again from 0 when the camera mainboard is flashed / reset.

The only way to get as close as possible to the real shutter count is to upload an image to the stated webpage that was taken as close as possible before the shutter count was reset. The webpage reads out the shutter count from the image data, so uploading an old image will give to the shutter count at the moment when the image was taken.

Herbert

As far as I know, that is how all these shutter count sites and calculators work. If for some reason the camera mainboard is reset of flashed, there is no way to get the actual total shutter count from a recent image.

 

[Greybeard2017]

As of my knowledge, based on communication with the Fuji service when I had my X-T3 in there for a repair, the shutter count will always start again from 0 when the camera mainboard is flashed / reset.

The only way to get as close as possible to the real shutter count is to upload an image to the stated webpage that was taken as close as possible before the shutter count was reset. The webpage reads out the shutter count from the image data, so uploading an old image will give to the shutter count at the moment when the image was taken.

Herbert

As far as I know, that is how all these shutter count sites and calculators work. If for some reason the camera mainboard is reset of flashed, there is no way to get the actual total shutter count from a recent image.

Thats why the suggestion is to use a file from just before the reset

 

[Ringwraith69]

As of my knowledge, based on communication with the Fuji service when I had my X-T3 in there for a repair, the shutter count will always start again from 0 when the camera mainboard is flashed / reset.

The only way to get as close as possible to the real shutter count is to upload an image to the stated webpage that was taken as close as possible before the shutter count was reset. The webpage reads out the shutter count from the image data, so uploading an old image will give to the shutter count at the moment when the image was taken.

Herbert

As far as I know, that is how all these shutter count sites and calculators work. If for some reason the camera mainboard is reset of flashed, there is no way to get the actual total shutter count from a recent image.

Thats why the suggestion is to use a file from just before the reset

Yes, that was just the point...

 

[NashM42]

... and don't forget to save your original files if you use an app like Capture 1 or other that strips the og data.

 

[Mark VerMurlen]

There is no reliable way to get the shutter count from your X-T3. I’ve looked and tried a few methods and nothing is accurate. Fujifilm just plain doesn’t keep a shutter count in nonvolatile memory. I suppose some of the reason is that because of mirrorless operation, electronic shutter use, and movies, the concept of what constitutes a shutter click is fuzzy.

I just traded in my X-T3 for a new X-H2s at my local camera shop. They ran their little utility and asked if I thought their reading of 3000 clicks was right. I said “no way, it’s probably closer to 60,000 to 70,000”. I would shoot 3,000 images in a weekend using mechanical shutter at my daughters college sporting events and I’ve done that many times.

I would suggest you just describe the amount of use you gave the camera and leave out any count.

 

[McNoodle]

Try this one:
FUJIFILM Metadata (greybeard.org.uk)

 

[yatesd]

It almost seems like shutter count is irrelevant in modern cameras. Most of it is electronic and that doesn't really degrade with use.

Things that seem important:

- Overall condition (excellent, good, etc.)

- All accessories included? Charger, etc.

- Clean sensor?

- Battery Health

- General description of use: light, average, commercial

The new X-T5/H2/H2s is now rated for 500K!

 

[Greybeard2017]

There is no reliable way to get the shutter count from your X-T3. I’ve looked and tried a few methods and nothing is accurate. Fujifilm just plain doesn’t keep a shutter count in nonvolatile memory. I suppose some of the reason is that because of mirrorless operation, electronic shutter use, and movies, the concept of what constitutes a shutter click is fuzzy.

I just traded in my X-T3 for a new X-H2s at my local camera shop. They ran their little utility and asked if I thought their reading of 3000 clicks was right. I said “no way, it’s probably closer to 60,000 to 70,000”. I would shoot 3,000 images in a weekend using mechanical shutter at my daughters college sporting events and I’ve done that many times.

I would suggest you just describe the amount of use you gave the camera and leave out any count.

It seems to vary between camera models:

- the X100 series have a counter accessible in the menu - it rounds to the nearest 100 and includes other actions such as turning the camera off, changing the viewfinder display selection and choosing playback mode.

- other X series (except early models and the XT100/200 series) update a counter which is written to the image EXIF but this includes electronic shutter (and preshot) and is held in a 16 bit field so rolls over at 64K

- certain X series cameras (such as the X-Tx series) which support tethering have access to a counter which is available to tethering software (this may be closest to mechanical shutter count but not perfect)

 

[JurgyMan]

Try this one:
FUJIFILM Metadata (greybeard.org.uk)

that site gave me a "probably accurate" shutter count...

thanks! -Yossarian

 

[Alan Sh]

I just tried that greybeard on anX-T5 picture. It was numbered DSCF0058 - so the 58th picture I have taken - but the s/w showed 103 as the shutter count.

I haven't been doing anything special apart from taking single frame pictures.

 

[Greybeard2017]

I just tried that greybeard on anX-T5 picture. It was numbered DSCF0058 - so the 58th picture I have taken - but the s/w showed 103 as the shutter count.

I haven't been doing anything special apart from taking single frame pictures.

do you still have the other 57 files? maybe you could try a couple of the early ones and see what you get.

 

[Alan Sh]

Thanks for the idea.

Number 20 - taken lastthing at night before I went to bed, was shutter count 20.

Number 21, taken the next morning had a shutter count of 66.

I have no idea why that happened. Same SD card. I didn't do anything overnight and the camera was in the lounge where I'd left it.

I didn't even charge it up overnight.

Very weird.

Alan

 

[Threaded]

Count me in the “there’s no way to do it” camp. All these shutter count sites, including Apotelyt and Greybeard, read the shutter count from EXIF, but Fuji’s count there has never been reliable as it rolls over past a certain point.

The number you get might be completely accurate, or it might be many thousands out, there’s just no way of knowing unless you personally know the history of the camera.

If you’re selling the camera and one of these sites gives you a credible looking number that can be screenshot for the sales listing, great. But just know that the number you see on the next used Fuji you buy could be completely bogus.

 

[robert1955]

Count me in the “there’s no way to do it” camp. All these shutter count sites, including Apotelyt and Greybeard, read the shutter count from EXIF, but Fuji’s count there has never been reliable as it rolls over past a certain point.

The number you get might be completely accurate, or it might be many thousands out, there’s just no way of knowing unless you personally know the history of the camera.

If you’re selling the camera and one of these sites gives you a credible looking number that can be screenshot for the sales listing, great. But just know that the number you see on the next used Fuji you buy could be completely bogus.

I have several times have a camera crash so completely that all settings including actuation count were lost and with a new set up started again at 1.

BUT: I've never read there is a way to let it show a number that would be credible for a camera of a certain age

 

[Greybeard2017]

Count me in the “there’s no way to do it” camp. All these shutter count sites, including Apoleyt and Greybeard, read the shutter count from EXIF, but Fuji’s count there has never been reliable as it rolls over past a certain point.

It might be accurate, it might be 100k out, there’s just no way of knowing unless you personally know the history of the camera.

If you’re selling the camera and one of these sites gives you a credible looking number that can be screenshot for the sales listing, great. But just know that the number you see on the next used Fuji you buy could be completely bogus.

Its really a shame that FujiFilm chose to use a 16 bit counter in the EXIF.

A larger field wouldn't make its use foolproof (it would still be reset if the internal battery (capacitor) was removed or lost its charge) but it would have eliminated one of the primary reasons for the number rolling over.