Just got a DSC-F828

[717]

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

 

[Bill Borne]

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/compact-cameras-dsc-f-series/dsc-f828









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[717]

Thanks! Compact Flash ordered

 

[Bill Borne]

Thanks! Compact Flash ordered

No problem I have the 828 but never use it. I kept it for its night vision capabilities

plus takes very nice photos!

 

[Dak on cam]

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

My own experience is with the DSC-R1 which is the successor model, so it's not clear how fully the experience will apply. But it may well be similar.

The DSC-R1 supports Sony Memory Stick PRO perfectly up to its maximum size of 32GB. It also supports Compact Flash without problems at least up to 128GB.

Those results have been achieved using

a) a micro-SD card in a micro-SD-to-MSPRO-DUO in an MSPRO-DUO-to-MSPRO adapter

b) an SD-card in an SD-to-CompactFlash adapter

With the current price points and speeds, there is no point in buying more expensive original media that would work without adapter, at least not when faster media (like MSPRO-DUO-HG) are not supported by the camera.

With the DSC-R1, there is a capacity-based slowdown at startup when you changed media (or when you switch from one to the other). And CompactFlash is significantly slower (marketing?) than MSPRO anyway. That means that the startup time for 128GB CF is downright painful (half a minute or so).

The camera will format either media using FAT32 (I think) so your computer should not be obnoxious about SDXC cards not being formatted with Exfat; otherwise reading the cards will not be fun if their size is above 32GB.

Note that the DSC-R1 is a successor to the DSC-F828, so its behavior may differ. It's a good first guess, however, and frankly speaking 32GB will take you a long way without wasting a lot of money if it does not work. With the DSC-R1, using the CF slot by default rather than the MSPRO slot was not a good idea for camera speed. I have no idea how the DSC-F828 would fare here.

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Dak

 

[Bill Borne]

Guess you didn't read the other replies

He already purchased a card

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

My own experience is with the DSC-R1 which is the successor model, so it's not clear how fully the experience will apply. But it may well be similar.

The DSC-R1 supports Sony Memory Stick PRO perfectly up to its maximum size of 32GB. It also supports Compact Flash without problems at least up to 128GB.

Those results have been achieved using

a) a micro-SD card in a micro-SD-to-MSPRO-DUO in an MSPRO-DUO-to-MSPRO adapter

b) an SD-card in an SD-to-CompactFlash adapter

With the current price points and speeds, there is no point in buying more expensive original media that would work without adapter, at least not when faster media (like MSPRO-DUO-HG) are not supported by the camera.

With the DSC-R1, there is a capacity-based slowdown at startup when you changed media (or when you switch from one to the other). And CompactFlash is significantly slower (marketing?) than MSPRO anyway. That means that the startup time for 128GB CF is downright painful (half a minute or so).

The camera will format either media using FAT32 (I think) so your computer should not be obnoxious about SDXC cards not being formatted with Exfat; otherwise reading the cards will not be fun if their size is above 32GB.

Note that the DSC-R1 is a successor to the DSC-F828, so its behavior may differ. It's a good first guess, however, and frankly speaking 32GB will take you a long way without wasting a lot of money if it does not work. With the DSC-R1, using the CF slot by default rather than the MSPRO slot was not a good idea for camera speed. I have no idea how the DSC-F828 would fare here.

 

[Dak on cam]

Guess you didn't read the other replies

He already purchased a card

Which means that neither he nor anybody else reading this thread will ever make a purchase decision again in their life?

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

My own experience is with the DSC-R1 which is the successor model, so it's not clear how fully the experience will apply. But it may well be similar.

The DSC-R1 supports Sony Memory Stick PRO perfectly up to its maximum size of 32GB. It also supports Compact Flash without problems at least up to 128GB.

Those results have been achieved using

a) a micro-SD card in a micro-SD-to-MSPRO-DUO in an MSPRO-DUO-to-MSPRO adapter

b) an SD-card in an SD-to-CompactFlash adapter

With the current price points and speeds, there is no point in buying more expensive original media that would work without adapter, at least not when faster media (like MSPRO-DUO-HG) are not supported by the camera.

With the DSC-R1, there is a capacity-based slowdown at startup when you changed media (or when you switch from one to the other). And CompactFlash is significantly slower (marketing?) than MSPRO anyway. That means that the startup time for 128GB CF is downright painful (half a minute or so).

The camera will format either media using FAT32 (I think) so your computer should not be obnoxious about SDXC cards not being formatted with Exfat; otherwise reading the cards will not be fun if their size is above 32GB.

Note that the DSC-R1 is a successor to the DSC-F828, so its behavior may differ. It's a good first guess, however, and frankly speaking 32GB will take you a long way without wasting a lot of money if it does not work. With the DSC-R1, using the CF slot by default rather than the MSPRO slot was not a good idea for camera speed. I have no idea how the DSC-F828 would fare here.

 

[717]

I enjoyed reading that - no problem

I am looking forward to the 4-color sensor too, that will be something new.

 

[Bill Borne]

Guess you didn't read the other replies

He already purchased a card

Which means that neither he nor anybody else reading this thread will ever make a purchase decision again in their life?

Duh, I gave him all the info he needed

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

My own experience is with the DSC-R1 which is the successor model, so it's not clear how fully the experience will apply. But it may well be similar.

The DSC-R1 supports Sony Memory Stick PRO perfectly up to its maximum size of 32GB. It also supports Compact Flash without problems at least up to 128GB.

Those results have been achieved using

a) a micro-SD card in a micro-SD-to-MSPRO-DUO in an MSPRO-DUO-to-MSPRO adapter

b) an SD-card in an SD-to-CompactFlash adapter

With the current price points and speeds, there is no point in buying more expensive original media that would work without adapter, at least not when faster media (like MSPRO-DUO-HG) are not supported by the camera.

With the DSC-R1, there is a capacity-based slowdown at startup when you changed media (or when you switch from one to the other). And CompactFlash is significantly slower (marketing?) than MSPRO anyway. That means that the startup time for 128GB CF is downright painful (half a minute or so).

The camera will format either media using FAT32 (I think) so your computer should not be obnoxious about SDXC cards not being formatted with Exfat; otherwise reading the cards will not be fun if their size is above 32GB.

Note that the DSC-R1 is a successor to the DSC-F828, so its behavior may differ. It's a good first guess, however, and frankly speaking 32GB will take you a long way without wasting a lot of money if it does not work. With the DSC-R1, using the CF slot by default rather than the MSPRO slot was not a good idea for camera speed. I have no idea how the DSC-F828 would fare here.

 

[Dak on cam]

Guess you didn't read the other replies

He already purchased a card

Which means that neither he nor anybody else reading this thread will ever make a purchase decision again in their life?

Duh, I gave him all the info he needed

Bill, no offense, but your quote did not even specify whether the DSC-F828 would take memory stick pro (it does, but if it didn't, it would stop at 128MB capacity rather than the 32GB I tested successfully on the DSC-R1), whether CF would be able to take anything more than 4GB (while I tested 128GB successfully), what kind of media would be most affordable to use these days (I specified which adapters to use with SDcard and micro-SDcard) and made no predictions whatsoever how the camera might react with sizes that would have been extraordinary at the time it had been released.

So I don't get why you think I should have been prevented from giving a more exhaustive answer that was merely deficient in that the reported experiences were for the successor model of the DSC-F828, but at least one that offers the exact same kind of media slots. The OP would then be in the position of reporting back whether he finds that the DSC-R1 experience applies well enough to the DSC-F828 or differs substantially.

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

My own experience is with the DSC-R1 which is the successor model, so it's not clear how fully the experience will apply. But it may well be similar.

The DSC-R1 supports Sony Memory Stick PRO perfectly up to its maximum size of 32GB. It also supports Compact Flash without problems at least up to 128GB.

Those results have been achieved using

a) a micro-SD card in a micro-SD-to-MSPRO-DUO in an MSPRO-DUO-to-MSPRO adapter

b) an SD-card in an SD-to-CompactFlash adapter

With the current price points and speeds, there is no point in buying more expensive original media that would work without adapter, at least not when faster media (like MSPRO-DUO-HG) are not supported by the camera.

With the DSC-R1, there is a capacity-based slowdown at startup when you changed media (or when you switch from one to the other). And CompactFlash is significantly slower (marketing?) than MSPRO anyway. That means that the startup time for 128GB CF is downright painful (half a minute or so).

The camera will format either media using FAT32 (I think) so your computer should not be obnoxious about SDXC cards not being formatted with Exfat; otherwise reading the cards will not be fun if their size is above 32GB.

Note that the DSC-R1 is a successor to the DSC-F828, so its behavior may differ. It's a good first guess, however, and frankly speaking 32GB will take you a long way without wasting a lot of money if it does not work. With the DSC-R1, using the CF slot by default rather than the MSPRO slot was not a good idea for camera speed. I have no idea how the DSC-F828 would fare here.

 

[717]

I got a card that should work, so that is covered.

Anyone else still use these cameras?

 

[Bill Borne]

Guess you didn't read the other replies

He already purchased a card

Which means that neither he nor anybody else reading this thread will ever make a purchase decision again in their life?

Duh, I gave him all the info he needed

Bill, no offense, but your quote did not even specify whether the DSC-F828 would take memory stick pro (it does, but if it didn't, it would stop at 128MB capacity rather than the 32GB I tested successfully on the DSC-R1), whether CF would be able to take anything more than 4GB (while I tested 128GB successfully), what kind of media would be most affordable to use these days (I specified which adapters to use with SDcard and micro-SDcard) and made no predictions whatsoever how the camera might react with sizes that would have been extraordinary at the time it had been released.

So I don't get why you think I should have been prevented from giving a more exhaustive answer that was merely deficient in that the reported experiences were for the successor model of the DSC-F828, but at least one that offers the exact same kind of media slots. The OP would then be in the position of reporting back whether he finds that the DSC-R1 experience applies well enough to the DSC-F828 or differs substantially.

Well I was thinking that what you posted was R1 Experience, Which could be different? and what I posted was stickly for 828. That's all

I got this mainly for UV and IR, one magnet away from full spectrum

What is the deal with memory for these now in 2020?

Will they use the Compact Flash cards sold now? What is the max capacity the camera can read?

When I had my 717 it used Sony Memory Sticks. Will the 828 use those old things if I can find any?

Thanks!

My own experience is with the DSC-R1 which is the successor model, so it's not clear how fully the experience will apply. But it may well be similar.

The DSC-R1 supports Sony Memory Stick PRO perfectly up to its maximum size of 32GB. It also supports Compact Flash without problems at least up to 128GB.

Those results have been achieved using

a) a micro-SD card in a micro-SD-to-MSPRO-DUO in an MSPRO-DUO-to-MSPRO adapter

b) an SD-card in an SD-to-CompactFlash adapter

With the current price points and speeds, there is no point in buying more expensive original media that would work without adapter, at least not when faster media (like MSPRO-DUO-HG) are not supported by the camera.

With the DSC-R1, there is a capacity-based slowdown at startup when you changed media (or when you switch from one to the other). And CompactFlash is significantly slower (marketing?) than MSPRO anyway. That means that the startup time for 128GB CF is downright painful (half a minute or so).

The camera will format either media using FAT32 (I think) so your computer should not be obnoxious about SDXC cards not being formatted with Exfat; otherwise reading the cards will not be fun if their size is above 32GB.

Note that the DSC-R1 is a successor to the DSC-F828, so its behavior may differ. It's a good first guess, however, and frankly speaking 32GB will take you a long way without wasting a lot of money if it does not work. With the DSC-R1, using the CF slot by default rather than the MSPRO slot was not a good idea for camera speed. I have no idea how the DSC-F828 would fare here.

 

[linuxmaster]

Me too! I use 16GB Transend x166. It works fine.

 

[717]

Did you get it for IR work or just general fun?

 

[linuxmaster]

Did you get it for IR work or just general fun?

For fun only, of course ^__^ https://500px.com/p/alexandrorodrigez/galleries/infrared-950nm

 

[Hike Pics]

This might be an old post but......

I picked up an F717 a few months ago. I haven't used it for IR yet but hope to soon as good weather arrives. So far, though, my test shots have looked nice indeed.

One of the biggest advantages of the F models is when getting down low to shoot things near the ground. My hand is in a normal position to shoot. Any other camera I would have to shoot with my thumb!!

 

[717]

This might be an old post but......

I picked up an F717 a few months ago. I haven't used it for IR yet but hope to soon as good weather arrives. So far, though, my test shots have looked nice indeed.

One of the biggest advantages of the F models is when getting down low to shoot things near the ground. My hand is in a normal position to shoot. Any other camera I would have to shoot with my thumb!!

I loved my F717. I would still have it except the sensor died for the second time. I think it actually takes a little bit better IR than the 828. This is the old school pre-magnet method with the IR LEDs taped over, night shot mode on, and an R72 plus ND8 filter. The 717 LEDs are right at the lens, so they would ruin IR photos reflecting off the filters.

 

[Hike Pics]

I didn't know there was a pre-magnet method. I will try that. Are there any specific settings needed?

 

[717]

I didn't know there was a pre-magnet method. I will try that. Are there any specific settings needed?

The magnet method is way better. Using night shot also removes the hot mirror, but it locks the shutter speed at something like 1/30th and the lens wide open besides for turning on the IR LED lights.

The magnet allows normal exposure control and eliminates the need for a ND filter.

 

[717]

See this thread for some examples of different filters:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65592129