Canon's Mind-Blowing 2021 new lenses Roadmap

[IoannisZ]

https://fstoppers.com/gear/canons-m...s-multiple-revolutionary-lenses-and-16-523425

I clicked on the link and and an ad for this showed up !

https://fstoppers.com/product/hero-shot-how-light-and-composite-product-photographyI love that kind of stuff ! Thanks !

. Personally I consider sound system manufacturers (or you saw another publicity ) quite at the same boat with camera manufacturers. They are both beyond their "golden" years. You can hear cheaply great sound but if you will said that in the audiofiles forums they will "kill" you.

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[DeathArrow]

https://fstoppers.com/gear/canons-m...s-multiple-revolutionary-lenses-and-16-523425

While most are nice, I think they will be terribly expensive.

I would love a 35mm f/1.2 and 135mm f/1.4.

Maybe in 10 years if I start saving now so I can buy them used in 2030.

 

[m100]

https://fstoppers.com/gear/canons-m...s-multiple-revolutionary-lenses-and-16-523425

I clicked on the link and and an ad for this showed up !

https://fstoppers.com/product/hero-shot-how-light-and-composite-product-photographyI love that kind of stuff ! Thanks !

. Personally I consider sound system manufacturers (or you saw another publicity ) quite at the same boat with camera manufacturers. They are both beyond their "golden" years. You can hear cheaply great sound but if you will said that in the audiofiles forums they will "kill" you.

The truth for me is my ears and eyes are not what they used to be.

I bought a EF-S 55-250mm STM last week and it is out for delivery today.

I am going to do a socially distance car show with it.

It is going to be my out and about social distancing lens.

 

[Dareshooter]

If this rumor is true then it means that Canon is not planning to release an APSC RF body in the near future.

Also, given the absence of EF-M lenses , it looks like the M is here to stay but relegated to a consumer level.

Yet over on another forum there's a poster who reckons this so called road map means the end of the M system :-|

 

[Sittatunga]

and yeah EFM mount continues to be sidelined as always by Canon.

EF-S was only ever a second string too. Canon's main interest has always been 35mm format, even while they made half-frame, 110 and APS film cameras.

The EOS M cameras give Canon room to be more enthusiastic about APS-C, but Canon will keep them small. The top end of the EOS M range won't sell in great quantities if it's too much more expensive than the bottom end of the EOS R range.

Agreed.

I don’t think the M6II sold as well as how the M50 did.

It’s to Canon’s interest to shift enthusiasts that would buy high end lenses to RF as much as possible.

But if there is nothing in common between eos-M and R system why someone who has used the eos-M system continue with Canon?

There's EF lenses in common between them, and similar thinking behind the menu and control systems. I don't have any RF lenses, but I use my longer EF lenses on my DSLR, my EOS R and all my EOS Ms. (The 16-35mm is just silly on an EOS M100.)

I don't think Canon is forcing me to buy RF lenses, I bought that 16-35mm a year after I bought the EOS R. It's in Canon's interest to sell as many cameras and lenses as possible and make their customers happy. Nobody goes back to a rip-off merchant if they can help it.

I don't consider myself a "pro" user of the eos-M system with only a used eos-m3 and the 18-55mm but seriously if I will decide for a full format I will look more seriously on other companies after this "lesson" Canon gave me with this system.

Seriously, what lesson would that be?

Like I said I don't have anything except the m3 and the 18-55mm. Personally I don't have a sentimental or economic (I payed 300$ but I haven't found them on the street), connection with Canon or other companies, so if I will see that my new smartphone make similar photos with the m3 and decide for a bigger format (for sure I will not buy another eos-M camera (even with a better sensor) if the lens situation doesn't change dramatically), I will have always in my mind that I couldn't use extensively the camera (in period of time, but also by lack of extensive series of lenses) because of Canon's marketing decisions.

 

[MAC]

and yeah EFM mount continues to be sidelined as always by Canon.

EF-S was only ever a second string too. Canon's main interest has always been 35mm format, even while they made half-frame, 110 and APS film cameras.

The EOS M cameras give Canon room to be more enthusiastic about APS-C, but Canon will keep them small. The top end of the EOS M range won't sell in great quantities if it's too much more expensive than the bottom end of the EOS R range.

Agreed.

I don’t think the M6II sold as well as how the M50 did.

It’s to Canon’s interest to shift enthusiasts that would buy high end lenses to RF as much as possible.

But if there is nothing in common between eos-M and R system why someone who has used the eos-M system continue with Canon?

There's EF lenses in common between them, and similar thinking behind the menu and control systems. I don't have any RF lenses, but I use my longer EF lenses on my DSLR, my EOS R and all my EOS Ms. (The 16-35mm is just silly on an EOS M100.)

I don't think Canon is forcing me to buy RF lenses, I bought that 16-35mm a year after I bought the EOS R. It's in Canon's interest to sell as many cameras and lenses as possible and make their customers happy. Nobody goes back to a rip-off merchant if they can help it.

I don't consider myself a "pro" user of the eos-M system with only a used eos-m3 and the 18-55mm but seriously if I will decide for a full format I will look more seriously on other companies after this "lesson" Canon gave me with this system.

Seriously, what lesson would that be?

Like I said I don't have anything except the m3 and the 18-55mm. Personally I don't have a sentimental or economic (I payed 300$ but I haven't found them on the street), connection with Canon or other companies, so if I will see that my new smartphone make similar photos with the m3 and decide for a bigger format (for sure I will not buy another eos-M camera (even with a better sensor) if the lens situation doesn't change dramatically), I will have always in my mind that I couldn't use extensively the camera (in period of time, but also by lack of extensive series of lenses) because of Canon's marketing decisions.

You don't need another EOS M camera, much less a bigger format camera; more lenses would do more for your photography. The 11-22mm zoom is the one lens that's never off one of my cameras, and its combination of image quality, size and price make it practically unique. The Samyang 8mm f/2.8 fisheye is another gem, one that I use far more than I thought I would. The EF-M primes are all well-loved and respected by their owners. What you won't find is fast zooms because Canon's marketing decision is that EOS M will be small and light. I'd like a 62mm f/2, but I'm not holding my breath. So far, Canon have given us a range of overlapping native lenses from 11mm to 200mm with access to every EF lens up to 800mm. What lens are you looking for?

I'll answer that

the RF 14 - 35 F4 IS L instead of being stuck with your 18 mm 11-22

and the RF 70-200 F4 IS L the size of a coke can

 

[Dave]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

 

[BirdShooter7]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

It looks like the 100-400 is going to be the non-L budget friendly version.

 

[John Crowe]

Very sad news indeed. I may never own an RF body. The only outstanding lens is the TR 14mm (think that is what they called it) but I would very much prefer an EF 14 TS-E.

Yes, the prices will be ridiculous.

 

[IoannisZ]

and yeah EFM mount continues to be sidelined as always by Canon.

EF-S was only ever a second string too. Canon's main interest has always been 35mm format, even while they made half-frame, 110 and APS film cameras.

The EOS M cameras give Canon room to be more enthusiastic about APS-C, but Canon will keep them small. The top end of the EOS M range won't sell in great quantities if it's too much more expensive than the bottom end of the EOS R range.

Agreed.

I don’t think the M6II sold as well as how the M50 did.

It’s to Canon’s interest to shift enthusiasts that would buy high end lenses to RF as much as possible.

But if there is nothing in common between eos-M and R system why someone who has used the eos-M system continue with Canon?

There's EF lenses in common between them, and similar thinking behind the menu and control systems. I don't have any RF lenses, but I use my longer EF lenses on my DSLR, my EOS R and all my EOS Ms. (The 16-35mm is just silly on an EOS M100.)

I don't think Canon is forcing me to buy RF lenses, I bought that 16-35mm a year after I bought the EOS R. It's in Canon's interest to sell as many cameras and lenses as possible and make their customers happy. Nobody goes back to a rip-off merchant if they can help it.

I don't consider myself a "pro" user of the eos-M system with only a used eos-m3 and the 18-55mm but seriously if I will decide for a full format I will look more seriously on other companies after this "lesson" Canon gave me with this system.

Seriously, what lesson would that be?

Like I said I don't have anything except the m3 and the 18-55mm. Personally I don't have a sentimental or economic (I payed 300$ but I haven't found them on the street), connection with Canon or other companies, so if I will see that my new smartphone make similar photos with the m3 and decide for a bigger format (for sure I will not buy another eos-M camera (even with a better sensor) if the lens situation doesn't change dramatically), I will have always in my mind that I couldn't use extensively the camera (in period of time, but also by lack of extensive series of lenses) because of Canon's marketing decisions.

You don't need another EOS M camera, much less a bigger format camera; more lenses would do more for your photography. The 11-22mm zoom is the one lens that's never off one of my cameras, and its combination of image quality, size and price make it practically unique. The Samyang 8mm f/2.8 fisheye is another gem, one that I use far more than I thought I would. The EF-M primes are all well-loved and respected by their owners. What you won't find is fast zooms because Canon's marketing decision is that EOS M will be small and light. I'd like a 62mm f/2, but I'm not holding my breath. So far, Canon have given us a range of overlapping native lenses from 11mm to 200mm with access to every EF lens up to 800mm. What lens are you looking for?

I have only the 18-55mm and most of my photos are made with 55 side. I must admit houever that I always "play" with the zoom for the final scene. Like another member said probably I must put a scotch on the zoom and use only the 55mm in order to make sure about my choose of this.

My principal interest are City photography, then street photography and occasionally portraits. For sure I don't want anything bellow 30mm. I would like a canon 55mm with isis. And then maybe a 33mm also with isis, both capable in difficult light situations. Sometimes I think that also an 85mm with similar characteristics would be nice.

 

[IoannisZ]

Very sad news indeed. I may never own an RF body. The only outstanding lens is the TR 14mm (think that is what they called it) but I would very much prefer an EF 14 TS-E.

Yes, the prices will be ridiculous.

We are in the same situation.

I would like a place in order to discuss what many of us are thinking to do but it seems that if someone says something against a system, immediately becomes target.

 

[Dave]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

It looks like the 100-400 is going to be the non-L budget friendly version.

To compete with Tamron and Sigma? Makes sense.
The list will mean more to me when prices are included.
For now it's "look, I can duplicate what I have in EF format".

 

[IoannisZ]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

Hi!

Can I ask what camera and system you use? And if there isn't a problem why you chose that?

 

[Dave]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

Hi!

Can I ask what camera and system you use? And if there isn't a problem why you chose that?

Hi. Did you read my equipment list? I'm happy with what I have for now, and have no reason to change anytime soon. Still, thinking ahead is a pretty reasonable thing to do, no?

 

[IoannisZ]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

Hi!

Can I ask what camera and system you use? And if there isn't a problem why you chose that?

Hi. Did you read my equipment list? I'm happy with what I have for now, and have no reason to change anytime soon. Still, thinking ahead is a pretty reasonable thing to do, no?

It was a sincere question. I use a smartphone. Where is this list you mention?

 

[Dave]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

Hi!

Can I ask what camera and system you use? And if there isn't a problem why you chose that?

Hi. Did you read my equipment list? I'm happy with what I have for now, and have no reason to change anytime soon. Still, thinking ahead is a pretty reasonable thing to do, no?

It was a sincere question. I use a smartphone. Where is this list you mention?

I use a smartphone too and just added it to my gear list (which can be found at the bottom of all my posts, including this one).

 

[IoannisZ]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

Hi!

Can I ask what camera and system you use? And if there isn't a problem why you chose that?

Hi. Did you read my equipment list? I'm happy with what I have for now, and have no reason to change anytime soon. Still, thinking ahead is a pretty reasonable thing to do, no?

It was a sincere question. I use a smartphone. Where is this list you mention?

I use a smartphone too and just added it to my gear list (which can be found at the bottom of all my posts, including this one).

Oh man! I mean I use a smartphone for Internet. That's probably I can't see anything bellow your posts.

 

[Sittatunga]

and yeah EFM mount continues to be sidelined as always by Canon.

EF-S was only ever a second string too. Canon's main interest has always been 35mm format, even while they made half-frame, 110 and APS film cameras.

The EOS M cameras give Canon room to be more enthusiastic about APS-C, but Canon will keep them small. The top end of the EOS M range won't sell in great quantities if it's too much more expensive than the bottom end of the EOS R range.

Agreed.

I don’t think the M6II sold as well as how the M50 did.

It’s to Canon’s interest to shift enthusiasts that would buy high end lenses to RF as much as possible.

But if there is nothing in common between eos-M and R system why someone who has used the eos-M system continue with Canon?

There's EF lenses in common between them, and similar thinking behind the menu and control systems. I don't have any RF lenses, but I use my longer EF lenses on my DSLR, my EOS R and all my EOS Ms. (The 16-35mm is just silly on an EOS M100.)

I don't think Canon is forcing me to buy RF lenses, I bought that 16-35mm a year after I bought the EOS R. It's in Canon's interest to sell as many cameras and lenses as possible and make their customers happy. Nobody goes back to a rip-off merchant if they can help it.

I don't consider myself a "pro" user of the eos-M system with only a used eos-m3 and the 18-55mm but seriously if I will decide for a full format I will look more seriously on other companies after this "lesson" Canon gave me with this system.

Seriously, what lesson would that be?

Like I said I don't have anything except the m3 and the 18-55mm. Personally I don't have a sentimental or economic (I payed 300$ but I haven't found them on the street), connection with Canon or other companies, so if I will see that my new smartphone make similar photos with the m3 and decide for a bigger format (for sure I will not buy another eos-M camera (even with a better sensor) if the lens situation doesn't change dramatically), I will have always in my mind that I couldn't use extensively the camera (in period of time, but also by lack of extensive series of lenses) because of Canon's marketing decisions.

You don't need another EOS M camera, much less a bigger format camera; more lenses would do more for your photography. The 11-22mm zoom is the one lens that's never off one of my cameras, and its combination of image quality, size and price make it practically unique. The Samyang 8mm f/2.8 fisheye is another gem, one that I use far more than I thought I would. The EF-M primes are all well-loved and respected by their owners. What you won't find is fast zooms because Canon's marketing decision is that EOS M will be small and light. I'd like a 62mm f/2, but I'm not holding my breath. So far, Canon have given us a range of overlapping native lenses from 11mm to 200mm with access to every EF lens up to 800mm. What lens are you looking for?

I'll answer that

the RF 14 - 35 F4 IS L instead of being stuck with your 18 mm 11-22

I did say my 16-35mm f/4 IS L was ridiculous on an M100, but at least it works on it. The RF 14-35mm f/4 isn't out yet, so I'll enjoy what I've got for a couple of years yet.

and the RF 70-200 F4 IS L the size of a coke can

I'll definitely have a look when it's available, but for now I'll make do with my EF 70-210mm that's ¼" longer and fatter than a Coke can, but at least it fits on all my cameras.

 

[Dave]

So Canon will be ready for me when/if I choose to go mirrorless.

Some of those lenses are close to what has already been introduced.
For instance, why both a 100-400 and a 100-500?

Hi!

Can I ask what camera and system you use? And if there isn't a problem why you chose that?

Hi. Did you read my equipment list? I'm happy with what I have for now, and have no reason to change anytime soon. Still, thinking ahead is a pretty reasonable thing to do, no?

It was a sincere question. I use a smartphone. Where is this list you mention?

I use a smartphone too and just added it to my gear list (which can be found at the bottom of all my posts, including this one).

Oh man! I mean I use a smartphone for Internet. That's probably I can't see anything bellow your posts.

That makes sense. Do you have access to a computer? If not, you can probably just check my profile.

 

[John Crowe]

When viewing dpreview.com on a smartphone switch to "desktop mode" at the very bottom of the page. You need to do this to view many of the features on dpreview. You can toggle back and forth.

I wish the camera reviews would be available on the "mobile site".