若明光学 DULENS APO 85mm F2 unboxing/samples 1. unboxing

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I'll do this in three parts. Unboxing, Samples, and Review. This is part 1. Unboxing.

Cat can has lens?
Cat can has lens?

Contents of box: lens, MC filter, neoprene pouch , cloth and inspection tag. Lens has branded, push on metal lens hood and generic F-mount rear cap.
Contents of box: lens, MC filter, neoprene pouch , cloth and inspection tag. Lens has branded, push on metal lens hood and generic F-mount rear cap.

Balances nicely on my D750. Note the included filter is black even though I bought the silver lens.
Balances nicely on my D750. Note the included filter is black even though I bought the silver lens.
 
With no exif and stepless aperture, I have no way of relaying the shooting parameters. Typically it was wide open or around f/2.8. It's a curiosity of the lens that the image properties remain nearly constant as you change the aperture, so you needn't worry too much about the settings.



 Dull day today, but here's a nominal sharpness & CA test.
Dull day today, but here's a nominal sharpness & CA test.



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The popular "crayon test" for bokeh, close focus sharpness, and contrast.



Easy-peasy bokeh. Any lens can pull this off, but still ... nice.
Easy-peasy bokeh. Any lens can pull this off, but still ... nice.





Another one. The ad copy says "Sonnar-style". Take it with grain of salt (the actual optical formula here  is considerably more complex), but that's classic Sonnar rendering, as anyone who knows and loves the Nikkor-P 105/2,5 would tell you.
Another one. The ad copy says "Sonnar-style". Take it with grain of salt (the actual optical formula here is considerably more complex), but that's classic Sonnar rendering, as anyone who knows and loves the Nikkor-P 105/2,5 would tell you.



Contrast and general control.
Contrast and general control.





More.
More.



It may not be the last word in sharpness, but this lens has what I might call "poise". A cleanness or neatness to the microdetails. The absence of color or intensity bleeding on contrast transitions make it seem sharper than it is, if that makes any sense.
It may not be the last word in sharpness, but this lens has what I might call "poise". A cleanness or neatness to the microdetails. The absence of color or intensity bleeding on contrast transitions make it seem sharper than it is, if that makes any sense.





Generic resolution test.
Generic resolution test.
 

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Seems like an ok lens, but nothing to write gome about. Seems overpriced for what it is.
 
DULENS APO 85mm F2

Key specifications

85mm F.L., f/2.0-16, manual focus, stepless aperture, 55 mm filter thread, full frame coverage. <400g, 65 mm dia. x 59-62.5 mm long. 11 aperture blades, 7 group, 6 element optical design (2x anomalous dispersion lenses, 3x lanthanoid glass, 1x high-refractive index glass)

It’s pretty hard to mess up 85 mm, so when a 85 mm lens comes along that is somewhat expensive the discussion inevitably centers on what else you get for your money, followed closely by an assessment of whether it is “worth it”. For the price of $550 USD, yes, in my judgement, the Dulens 85/2 APO is “worth it”. You are not being cheated or ripped off. What comes in the box justifies the asking price. Should you buy it? Well, that’s a whole different story. Possibly, yes, but this is a very niche product. To figure out whether you might be part of that niche, you’ll have to read the rest of this review.



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Physical

Mechanically, this lens is vintage 1950’s: no AF, no data pins for EXIF data, no aperture coupling (and no TTL meter in consequence), and, unusually even for MF lenses, no automatic indexing of the aperture. (Aperture is always at the “taking aperture”, it isn’t held wide open as most SLR lenses are.) The aperture ring is stepless, so you cannot count clicks to know what aperture you are setting. The single modern viewfinder aid you have resource to is the focus confirm carat/dot, subbing for the split prism focus screen.

So yeah, the list this lens brings zero features to the table. It’s retrograde to even the earliest Nikkor “Auto” F-mount lenses, which at least were auto-indexing. You would be mistaken to think that the optics are equally Spartan, however. This is a modern design, a relatively complex (for this FL), 6 group, 7 element formula with several exotic glass elements including the two anomalous dispersion lenses responsible for the lens earning its APO (apochromatic) badge. Optically, this lens is dressed to impress.



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Mechanically, it’s well made, all metal, with a spacious 180-degree focus throw and perfect damping on both focus and aperture rings. I don’t put a huge value on “all metal” – plastic has advantages – but as all-metal lenses go, this finishing, engraving, and tolerances are high end.

The 11 aperture blades deserve special mention. The lens uses the vintage style damped blades, the ones that move accurately but only slowly. They don’t “snap” like modern indexed lenses. The flipside is they are much rounder and symmetrical. They are a thing of beauty.

Optical

At first I couldn’t shake the feeling that the lens wasn’t quite sharp. I felt it was missing a crispness or snap to the focal plane. Yet if I put my mind to getting a sharp photo, the lens delivered one.



The lens was stopped down to around f/4
The lens was stopped down to around f/4

There is a touch of softness wide open though, less a corner issue but generally over the frame. And the essence of the lens is in the way the rest of the image – contrast, color, and rendering – holds together when you change apertures. Some lenses get horribly faded wide open, some develop full on bokeh mist, while the Dulens just dials in a kind of beauty filter effect.

I’ve used enough good lenses, and enough not so good lenses, to be able to tell you with confidence that the Dulens is using high quality glass and coatings. Colors are rich and saturated, contrast stays high until the very onset of flare, and the bokeh is very, very nice. And in terms of all the other little things that good lenses do but cheap lenses don’t – light falloff, corner sharpness, color fringing, even often overlooked things like maintaining circular bokeh balls wide open – it’s pretty obvious the designers were targeting performance not cost-cutting.

 f/2
f/2

In terms of the apochromatic design, my comment here is that yes, the APO designation is justified and the lens is admirably free from CA, but the reality is none of my non-APO 85mm lenses have any problem with color fringing so I can’t say I have found a field-relevant benefit in favor of the Dulens. Still, kudos. It is really clean.

For the price all this would be a bargain, except that it terms of usability features there’s a lot you are missing out on. For me, however, manual focus and no metering are basically non-issues, I’ve comfortable working this way. But, yeah, obviously that’s going to a big roadblock to its popularity. I understand that for video this lens already has a considerable appeal, however. The stepless aperture and manual focus are features, and none of the other “negatives” factor. Makes sense. The bokeh is class leading and the flare effects are cool. There is a bit of focus breathing though.

Back to stills photography, in terms of image quality, are there any better options for comparable price? I would say the main challenger would be a used Zeiss 85/1.4ZF which I consider superior and can be found for not too much more. New, there’s the Tamron VC 85/1.8 but I haven’t tried that one. I would rank the Dulens above the Nikon 85/1.8G and Samyang 85/1.4, by a substantial margin, though the Nikon 85/1.8G is more than capable of good results.
 
Seems like an ok lens, but nothing to write home about. Seems overpriced for what it is.
I'm appreciating it more and more as I dig deeper.

I won't try to convince you either way, that's just my evolving impression.

Right into the light it's very clean.
Right into the light it's very clean.



Longitudinal CA well controlled.  Sharp and contrasty under harsh lighting. Generally pleasing rendering.
Longitudinal CA well controlled. Sharp and contrasty under harsh lighting. Generally pleasing rendering.
 
I've had the lens a couple of weeks now, and I've had it on my D750 for most of the time. There's been some brighter light available to better put the lens through its paces, and enough time for any small flaws to start worming their way into my consciousness - should there have been any.

First off the lens is easier to use than I was expecting. The triple combo of stepless aperture / no aperture coupling / no metering feels less like an impedance or more of just a "mode". It's how it is and I got used to it quickly.

Second, my opinion that the Dulens 85/2 APO is a high quality lens is only reinforced. The contrast, color, and overall cleanliness are really top notch. Images easily get that smooth, glossy look I associate with the best lenses. The bokeh never fails to impress, regardless of aperture or composition.

In fact, this lens is really challenging me to do better. I find it responds to the effort I put into taking the photo in a very direct way. The harder I work, the better the lens performs.

note: I bought a Hakuba 55mm metal lens hood (this one) which works perfectly and matches the lens nicely. I've also ordered a Kenko black mist filter to try with it, since sometimes a bit of flare (flair?) is a plus not a minus.

I hope this lens sells well enough that the people who designed it feel it was worth their time and effort. It's a tough market to break into. A lot quackery can be found on the periphery of the 3rd party "artisan" lens market, too, so it's nice to see a honest good performance, beautiful build quality, and a reasonable price - it would be nice if the lens gets the recognition that I think it's due.



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I really like this Dulens 85.PROS: Very sharp from f2 on, looks like my Zeiss 85 2.8 but sharper. Nice bokeh and OOF rendering. CONS: A bit heavier than I thought, even longer hood does not always help against flare (depends on light angle). Use it with Sony A7R II with Techart TAP la-ea7 so get autofocus, but love also the manual focus feel, can operate with one finger. Great video lens.



 pitch-black cat - difficult target,  at f2
pitch-black cat - difficult target, at f2
 
Hi there and thanks for commenting. It's nice to get some more feedback on other people's impressions with the lens.

The lens will flare a bit when backlit, but Dulens make no secret of it as the sample photos include examples clearly showing it. I find it very difficult to reproduce when I actually want to get some flare effects, however. In fact I have recently been experimenting with low contrast and "black mist" filters to get more flare/glow more reliably.

Agree the one-finger focus touch is a highlight, together with the physical aperture assembly.

I like your sample cat photo btw. It's neat to be able to look at someone else's photo and go "oh yeah, I know that look ... it's the same as my lens!"
 
Indeed, and for "bokemaniah"'s, some (bad photos as such) bokeh's, Dulens F2, F4 and Zeiss F4, really nice color rendition and contrast with Dulens



 Dulens F2
Dulens F2



 Dulens F4
Dulens F4



 Zeiss F4 (QBM 2.8 85mm version)
Zeiss F4 (QBM 2.8 85mm version)
 
I really like the photos you've taken with the Dulens. I think there's a nice dimensionality to the subjects. It's a shame this lens hasn't caught as much traction in the last 2 years.

I'm keen on checking out some of the better manual focus/manual aperture 85mm lenses for dual use on a D610 and F3 so I came across this Dulens.

Have you gotten to compare it directly to the Zeiss 85/1.4 ZF? That one's obviously a stop wider but the Dulens has the advantage of being a bit smaller plus the Zeiss isn't exactly the sharpest lens at f1.4 and is plagued by CA. The Milvus seems better but is quite a lot more expensive and is a heavy boy. The Otus is out of budget and kind of overkill.
 
Have you gotten to compare it directly to the Zeiss 85/1.4 ZF? That one's obviously a stop wider but the Dulens has the advantage of being a bit smaller plus the Zeiss isn't exactly the sharpest lens at f1.4 and is plagued by CA. The Milvus seems better but is quite a lot more expensive and is a heavy boy. The Otus is out of budget and kind of overkill.
I haven't done any direct 1:1 tests but going by memory the Zeiss 85/1.4 is sharper, but with more color aberrations. Both have nice bokeh. The Zeiss has significant focus shift though this won't be an issue on mirrorless. The main thing is the Zeiss is so much heavier, and a fair bit larger too. I personally find it a bit of a pain to cart around and dont use it much in consequence. The Zeiss will meter properly on Ai compatible dSLRs, or any modern Nikon dSLR for the chipped ZF.2 version, the Dulens only meters on mirrorless.

If the last word in sharpness is required get the Zeiss, or if you really want the shallow DOF look from f/1.4. As a more fun, more easy-to-live-with lens, go for the Dulens.
 
Oddly enough I'm able to shoot at slower shutter speeds and steadier manual focus with heavier lenses. I've been very happy with the Zeiss lenses I have so far but there's always the intrigue with lesser known lenses. Right now I've been eyeing the Zenitar 85mm f1.4 which seems to compete or maybe better the Zeiss Planar 85mm in some respects. Perhaps this is what people who can't afford Otus lenses do haha!
 
Oddly enough I'm able to shoot at slower shutter speeds and steadier manual focus with heavier lenses. I've been very happy with the Zeiss lenses I have so far but there's always the intrigue with lesser known lenses. Right now I've been eyeing the Zenitar 85mm f1.4 which seems to compete or maybe better the Zeiss Planar 85mm in some respects. Perhaps this is what people who can't afford Otus lenses do haha!
Mmm. Either way, Russian-made optics are off my shopping list for a while. I doubt it approaches the Zeiss in performance though .. it's just not built to the same price point.

As for the Zeiss and Dulens comparison, I did run some shots through both to update my impressions.

The Zeiss ZF suffers from a design flaw. The aperture blades are very large and to get them to snap open and closed quickly seems to have been a bit of a "bridge too far". Mine no longer open evenly, so the aperture is now oval and I suspect somewhat inaccurate. The Dulens is not an indexed aperture, it's a rangefinder-style aperture design with lots of slow-moving blades so almost perfectly round and very precise.

Zeiss is still sharper and has that T* clarity/contrast/precision that marks it out as a high-end lens. That said the Dulens has a charm to it that I personally really respond to. There's a very slight softness but in a delicate rather than cheap sense.
 

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