Should i sell my X-T2 for a X-T30?

[tesla23]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

Not much of an IQ improvement, but you get faster AF, especially with the older lenses. You'll be losing the big EVF and three-way tilt-screen.

 

[Erik Baumgartner]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

No d-pad (4 custom function buttons), stupid Q button, no WR, worse EVF, worse handling, worse build quality, tilt screen downgrade, mechanical shutter downgrade, IQ no better, worse high ISO performance etc. No, I would not sell my X-T2 for an X-T30. I don’t think I’d trade my X-T20 for a 30.

 

[getochkn]

I traded my XT30 for an XT2. Lol. Tethering was a big reason for me, but I like the slightly bigger body. And now using it for a bit, I think FOR ME SUBJECTIVELY, I like the 24mp sensor over the 26.2mp. Can't pinpoint it, but I'm glad I traded and now having a XT-X level body, I don't think I could go back to a XT-X0 level.

I don't do much action so AF tweaks aren't a big deal for me, and I don't miss the touchscreen. I do like the extra button or two and dpad and joystick.

Your call. I was never really a dslr person and got into cameras around mirrorless and thought smaller is great, I have small hands, but even with a grip, the xt30 was just a bit small, bit plasticky feeling, never felt right. The XT2 is perfect and adorama just had the grips on sale for $100 so I have one of them on the way.

 

[Greg7579]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

No way. You would not if you were me. Sell the XT-2 and get the XT-4 if you like XT.

I have never been a fan of the XT-10,20,30. Too small and awkward for me but I love that Fuji offers it because it is part of their mantra and appeal and a lot of people love it.

But not me.

That said, to each his or her own. I have a good friend who was a high-end pro portrait photographer in San Antonio (retired now and sold the studio). She used FF and MF gear in the studio and field but now uses the XT-30 for her fun and travel camera. Well, really it is her only camera now. She likes the small size and of course, like everyone,, loves the world-leading Fuji glass. She specifically uses the pancake and 23/35/50 F2s. That is all she uses.

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Greg Johnson, San Antonio, Texas
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[Nas from the Valley]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

Nothing will bring the X-T30 sensor in terms of IQ only worse high ISO handling.

X-T2 advantages: WR body, better high ISO handling, better EVF, dual card slot, better grip, available D-Pad

X-T30 advantages: only better AF-C

 

[pseudobreccia]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

It doesn't "bring" anything...stick with what you have.

 

[baobob]

I would not do that before you had the opportunity to test the UI of the XT series I sold rapidly my XT10 because I found UI did not suit me

The new sensor is a bonus in terms of low light sensitivity and better AF If you are pleased with the AF of the T2 just keep it

This (AF) is an asset for fast action otherwiseIQ is just the same

 

[JayPhizzt]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

Most of the IQ lies in the lens anyway. The X-trans4 sensor does have a bit better dynamic range(less noise in shadows) than the X-trans3 sensor, though. The X-T30 will also have better AF.

Aside from those things overall I think it's a downgrade. The X-T2 has better build quality, better ergonomics, weather sealing, d-pad, 1/8000s mechanical shutter, two card slots etc.

 

[The_Crow]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

Nothing will bring the X-T30 sensor in terms of IQ only worse high ISO handling.

X-T2 advantages: WR body, better high ISO handling, better EVF, dual card slot, better grip, available D-Pad

X-T30 advantages: only better AF-C

I have an X-T3 and X-T30, had an X-T2 before.

What I like of the X-T30

- Small size (its not pocketable, but it cuts back on weight and when I have a smaller lens mounted the combo does add up)

- Video features aren't far off from the X-T3

- It's great camera. External dials, etc, etc

What I don't like (What he tesla23 said!)

- Not WR (only you will know the importance of this)

- EVF is not great (too small)

- EVF sensor is WAY more sensitive than the X-T3's. Meaning if I'm trying to shoot to close to my body in an awkward position is will switch from the screen to the EVF. So I have to change modes to make sense.

- Q Button placement is a disaster. I tried to remedy it by getting a thumb grip, but now the dial is difficult to access. A trade-off that is very frustrating. Also, getting my thumb to rest on the thumgrip means I have to change how I naturally hold the camera as the extra "stretch" is not needed with the X-T3.

- I miss the D-pad. I really do

- Screen does not offer as much adjustment as the X-T3's

- Tripod mount has to be removed to access the battery

- Battery compartment does not clip closed, you need to slide a slider to close it (unlike the X-T3

- STUPID 2.5mm jack

I'll be looking to swing mine for an X-T3, if not that then an X-T2.

It is a great little camera...

 

[JayPhizzt]

No d-pad (4 custom function buttons), stupid Q button, no WR, worse EVF, worse handling, worse build quality, tilt screen downgrade, mechanical shutter downgrade, IQ no better, worse high ISO performance etc. No, I would not sell my X-T2 for an X-T30. I don’t think I’d trade my X-T20 for a 30.

I've never agreed with the "worse high ISO performance" argument. Yes, the X-trans4 sensor does produce a bit more noise at high ISO compared to X-trans3, but at the same time it retains details better so you can just apply a bit more noise reduction and in the end you will get the same results. The X-trans4 sensor also has a bit better dynamic range(noticeably less noise in shadows).

 

[Threaded]

No d-pad (4 custom function buttons), stupid Q button, no WR, worse EVF, worse handling, worse build quality, tilt screen downgrade, mechanical shutter downgrade, IQ no better, worse high ISO performance etc. No, I would not sell my X-T2 for an X-T30. I don’t think I’d trade my X-T20 for a 30.

I've never agreed with the "worse high ISO performance" argument. Yes, the X-trans4 sensor does produce a bit more noise at high ISO compared to X-trans3, but at the same time it retains details better so you can just apply a bit more noise reduction and in the end you will get the same results. The X-trans4 sensor also has a bit better dynamic range(noticeably less noise in shadows).

It’s small potatoes either way through - I’ve had both and can barely tell them apart. The big improvement in the fourth gen sensor is nothing to do with IQ and everything to do with the autofocus performance and the fact that it’s now PDAF right across the frame. That’s the reason (or not) to upgrade, not the IQ.

 

[Krummj]

You actually like the way it feels in your hand. The image quality difference is not much, plus or minus (I owned the XH-1 before the XT-30). If you like the way the XT-2 fits in your hands, you will be frustrated with the tiny XT-30 at first. I bought an aftermarket grip and it helps a lot. Will likely eventually buy a larger camera though, with IBIS (XT-4 or some future cam). Ignore people who say there is a significant difference in the sensors.

The XT-30 pairs extremely well with the 27 2.8. I like it more than the 23 f2 on it.

 

[JayPhizzt]

It’s small potatoes either way through - I’ve had both and can barely tell them apart. The big improvement in the fourth gen sensor is nothing to do with IQ and everything to do with the autofocus performance and the fact that it’s now PDAF right across the frame. That’s the reason (or not) to upgrade, not the IQ.

Most of the IQ lies in the lens anyway so no surprise there For me personally the lower amount of noise in the shadows has definitely been beneficial.

 

[Erik Baumgartner]

No d-pad (4 custom function buttons), stupid Q button, no WR, worse EVF, worse handling, worse build quality, tilt screen downgrade, mechanical shutter downgrade, IQ no better, worse high ISO performance etc. No, I would not sell my X-T2 for an X-T30. I don’t think I’d trade my X-T20 for a 30.

I've never agreed with the "worse high ISO performance" argument. Yes, the X-trans4 sensor does produce a bit more noise at high ISO compared to X-trans3, but at the same time it retains details better so you can just apply a bit more noise reduction and in the end you will get the same results. The X-trans4 sensor also has a bit better dynamic range(noticeably less noise in shadows).

YMMV, other processing options might yield different results, but with my typical workflow (Lightroom w/X-Transformer), the older sensor is less noisy at very high ISOs (especially in the chroma dept.), has significantly fewer hard to clean up artifacts and less color bleed too. I don’t see more detail from the newer sensor at any ISO, definitely not at very high ISOs.
You be the judge - here are the X-T2 and X-T3 side by side with the same NR settings at ISO 12800:

Identical NR settings

Here they are again, but with the noise equalized. Note the unavoidable color bleed in the lips and eyes with the X-T3 image

Equalized noise

I’ve shot with these two cameras side by side in low light and my real world experience bears out what I see in these images. Will any of this make a difference to the average shooter? Maybe not, the IQ will be nearly indistinguishable in most situations, but if very high ISOs are a frequent necessity for you, it might.

 

[JayPhizzt]

No d-pad (4 custom function buttons), stupid Q button, no WR, worse EVF, worse handling, worse build quality, tilt screen downgrade, mechanical shutter downgrade, IQ no better, worse high ISO performance etc. No, I would not sell my X-T2 for an X-T30. I don’t think I’d trade my X-T20 for a 30.

I've never agreed with the "worse high ISO performance" argument. Yes, the X-trans4 sensor does produce a bit more noise at high ISO compared to X-trans3, but at the same time it retains details better so you can just apply a bit more noise reduction and in the end you will get the same results. The X-trans4 sensor also has a bit better dynamic range(noticeably less noise in shadows).

YMMV, other processing options might yield different results, but with my typical workflow (Lightroom w/X-Transformer), the older sensor is less noisy at very high ISOs (especially in the chroma dept.), has significantly fewer hard to clean up artifacts and less color bleed too. I don’t see more detail from the newer sensor at any ISO, definitely not at very high ISOs.
You be the judge - here are the X-T2 and X-T3 side by side with the same NR settings at ISO 12800:

Identical NR settings

Here they are again, but with the noise equalized. Note the unavoidable color bleed in the lips and eyes with the X-T3 image

Equalized noise

I’ve shot with these two cameras side by side in low light and my real world experience bears out what I see in these images. Will any of this make a difference to the average shooter? Maybe not, the IQ will be nearly indistinguishable in most situations, but if very high ISOs are a frequent necessity for you, it might.

Well, that's my personal experience at least. I had an X-T2 and now I have an X-T3 and I find I can get very similiar results in terms of noise and detail, at least with Capture One.

 

[Erik Baumgartner]

No d-pad (4 custom function buttons), stupid Q button, no WR, worse EVF, worse handling, worse build quality, tilt screen downgrade, mechanical shutter downgrade, IQ no better, worse high ISO performance etc. No, I would not sell my X-T2 for an X-T30. I don’t think I’d trade my X-T20 for a 30.

I've never agreed with the "worse high ISO performance" argument. Yes, the X-trans4 sensor does produce a bit more noise at high ISO compared to X-trans3, but at the same time it retains details better so you can just apply a bit more noise reduction and in the end you will get the same results. The X-trans4 sensor also has a bit better dynamic range(noticeably less noise in shadows).

YMMV, other processing options might yield different results, but with my typical workflow (Lightroom w/X-Transformer), the older sensor is less noisy at very high ISOs (especially in the chroma dept.), has significantly fewer hard to clean up artifacts and less color bleed too. I don’t see more detail from the newer sensor at any ISO, definitely not at very high ISOs.
You be the judge - here are the X-T2 and X-T3 side by side with the same NR settings at ISO 12800:

Identical NR settings

Here they are again, but with the noise equalized. Note the unavoidable color bleed in the lips and eyes with the X-T3 image

Equalized noise

I’ve shot with these two cameras side by side in low light and my real world experience bears out what I see in these images. Will any of this make a difference to the average shooter? Maybe not, the IQ will be nearly indistinguishable in most situations, but if very high ISOs are a frequent necessity for you, it might.

Well, that's my personal experience at least. I had an X-T2 and now I have an X-T3 and I find I can get very similiar results in terms of noise and detail, at least with Capture One.

In “normal” use I agree, but at ISO 6400+? That has not been my experience.

 

[WDeranged]

I've used both and the only real benefit for me was that they fixed that horrible purple flare/grid issue. General quality and operation is very similar, autofocus was a bit better but not world changing.

 

[John Gellings]

Besides the weather sealing the X-T2 has, i don’t see too many reasons not to sell it. I also wonder what the newer sensor of the X-T30 brings in terms of IQ and whatnot.

No just no...

 

[jrk]

Can't comment on the X-T30 as I've never owned it. I can tell you I would still be using the X-T2 if I hadn't left it on the fender of my Jeep and drove off. :-(