Sigma 24-70mm f2. 8 DG OS HSM Art - or - Sony 24-70 mm F2.8 G Master Lens

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Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have no experience with the Sigma or Sony 24-70 f2.8. But I've watched reviews on the new Sigma and everyone seems to be on the same page together. The Sigma seems to be a winner in almost every respect. I was considering getting the Sigma for the f2.8 but love my Sony 24-105 f4. The Sigma is lighter than the Sony GM, 1.95lbs for the Sony vs 1.84 for the Sigma according to B & H. And it's less expensive than the Sony. I would watch the reviews to see if the Sigma might be right for you. I watched Fro Knows and a couple of others.
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have no experience with the Sigma or Sony 24-70 f2.8. But I've watched reviews on the new Sigma and everyone seems to be on the same page together. The Sigma seems to be a winner in almost every respect. I was considering getting the Sigma for the f2.8 but love my Sony 24-105 f4. The Sigma is lighter than the Sony GM, 1.95lbs for the Sony vs 1.84 for the Sigma according to B & H. And it's less expensive than the Sony. I would watch the reviews to see if the Sigma might be right for you. I watched Fro Knows and a couple of others.
Thanks. I thought the sigma was heavier but could be wrong. Yes, I will watch the reviews. I wanted to get the thoughts of this forum participants first. Reviews are sometimes tricky particularly if they get their equipment directly from the manufacturer.
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have no experience with the Sigma or Sony 24-70 f2.8. But I've watched reviews on the new Sigma and everyone seems to be on the same page together. The Sigma seems to be a winner in almost every respect. I was considering getting the Sigma for the f2.8 but love my Sony 24-105 f4. The Sigma is lighter than the Sony GM, 1.95lbs for the Sony vs 1.84 for the Sigma according to B & H. And it's less expensive than the Sony. I would watch the reviews to see if the Sigma might be right for you. I watched Fro Knows and a couple of others.
Thanks. I thought the sigma was heavier but could be wrong. Yes, I will watch the reviews. I wanted to get the thoughts of this forum participants first. Reviews are sometimes tricky particularly if they get their equipment directly from the manufacturer.
I trust these folks!




Then there is Gerald Undone and Jason Vong. And Chris Frost could sell you ocean front property on Mars!! :)
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have the Sigma 24-70 Art, briefly tried the Sony 24-70mm GM a few years ago, owned the 24-70mm f4, the 24-105mm f4 and the Tamron 28-75 in the past. Sigma handles a little better than the GM but both are heavy lenses. Neither lenses come with image stabilization - only the f4 versions does.

Quick take is that the Sony GM and Sigma Art are very comparable - maybe the Sigma is slightly sharper at distance and the Sony slightly faster with AF and sharper at close distance. Color and bokeh are both strong - I see no issues e.g. really busy bokeh with the Sigma and overall color palette seems pleasing on the Sigma. Both of these f2.8 zooms are significantly better than the other options on the market but they're big.
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have no experience with the Sigma or Sony 24-70 f2.8. But I've watched reviews on the new Sigma and everyone seems to be on the same page together. The Sigma seems to be a winner in almost every respect. I was considering getting the Sigma for the f2.8 but love my Sony 24-105 f4. The Sigma is lighter than the Sony GM, 1.95lbs for the Sony vs 1.84 for the Sigma according to B & H. And it's less expensive than the Sony. I would watch the reviews to see if the Sigma might be right for you. I watched Fro Knows and a couple of others.
Thanks. I thought the sigma was heavier but could be wrong. Yes, I will watch the reviews. I wanted to get the thoughts of this forum participants first. Reviews are sometimes tricky particularly if they get their equipment directly from the manufacturer.
I trust these folks!




Then there is Gerald Undone and Jason Vong. And Chris Frost could sell you ocean front property on Mars!! :)
Good suggestions. Thank you!
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have the Sigma 24-70 Art, briefly tried the Sony 24-70mm GM a few years ago, owned the 24-70mm f4, the 24-105mm f4 and the Tamron 28-75 in the past. Sigma handles a little better than the GM but both are heavy lenses. Neither lenses come with image stabilization - only the f4 versions does.

Quick take is that the Sony GM and Sigma Art are very comparable - maybe the Sigma is slightly sharper at distance and the Sony slightly faster with AF and sharper at close distance. Color and bokeh are both strong - I see no issues e.g. really busy bokeh with the Sigma and overall color palette seems pleasing on the Sigma. Both of these f2.8 zooms are significantly better than the other options on the market but they're big.
Thank you Tony. They are heavy. Right now that is my major concern!
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have the Sigma 24-70 Art, briefly tried the Sony 24-70mm GM a few years ago, owned the 24-70mm f4, the 24-105mm f4 and the Tamron 28-75 in the past. Sigma handles a little better than the GM but both are heavy lenses. Neither lenses come with image stabilization - only the f4 versions does.

Quick take is that the Sony GM and Sigma Art are very comparable - maybe the Sigma is slightly sharper at distance and the Sony slightly faster with AF and sharper at close distance. Color and bokeh are both strong - I see no issues e.g. really busy bokeh with the Sigma and overall color palette seems pleasing on the Sigma. Both of these f2.8 zooms are significantly better than the other options on the market but they're big.
Thank you Tony. They are heavy. Right now that is my major concern!
Heavy but great image quality and versatile - would say the Sigma is almost as good as top tier primes I've used in the past - you'd have to really pixel peep to see a difference on the sony a7r iii with a 5k display. My landscape setup is now the Sigma 14-24mm and Sigma 24-70mm that replaced a set of Zeiss Batis and Loxia primes. I wasn't impressed with the lighter zooms - Tamron 28-75, Sony 24-105mm f4, and Sony 24-70mm f4 - none of them measured up to good prime lenses but the GM and Sigma Art zooms do.

I do plan on keeping a set of 3 primes for when size and weight matters (e.g. long hikes or street photography)- still trying to figure out which 3 primes though.
 
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I have both. Leaning strongly towards Sigma.

Colours, both good, but imo the Sony lacks a bit saturation and dims some colours to much. Similar like Sigma 14-24mm DG DN the new nano porous coating does very good job without making to vibrant colours.

Contrast: Sigma. Not as good as their primes or 14-24mm, but better then the Sony.

Vignetting: at 24mm wide open it's 'big' the vignetting on Sigma. It's still an issue on the Sony (so neither go free) but Sony better here. Staying F8 at 24mm cures most of issue (and for portrait like stuff i don't mind).

Chromatic aberration: Sigma way better, at first i didn't see any but now i see some traces, but they are incredible small, even better then some badly corrected lenses + software correction. My sony had among worst very broad purple outlining. And it happened in almost every scene, while the Sigma sometimes shows noone at all.

Focus speed, little win to Gmaster (but Sigma is by no means bad, it's better then anything in DSLR landscape imo apart oem pro lenses. No experiments on people tracking yet, sony probably slight win.

Weight: I thought i wouldbe small difference, but the Sony is longer and heavier, and this combines into a less balanced setup, where you actually feel the difference. Now to be fair i like a bit of heft to keep combo steady (and usually the image quality it brings), but the Gmaster imo lacks a bit of that last.

Sharpness:

A7III/A9 no difference (other then listed above)

A7RIII: bad copies of Gmaster (wich i think mine if one of many off) start to get soft a bit at 24mm, but a lot so at 70mm. 70mm is really bad at infinity. The whole gmaster is good at portrait distance though. Sigma way better at infinity (especially 70mm, but surprisingly 24mm is also sharper. The corners get a massive boost above F5.6 on Sigma, this usually is not case on standard zooms, where the corners have unfixable astigmatism (that stopping down barely masks), this is not the case here. Close up i need more time with Sigma, but i think it's just a little less sharp but more then good enough (and has that nice close focus at 24mm). 70mm much better on Sigma.

Sony A7RIV: Same as above but difference really starts to show at infinity. Especially 70mm infinity is night and day better on Sigma. On cloudy days the vignetting on Sigma causes more noise (noise appears faster on r4 small pixels), good sunlight like in summer: no visible difference. I feel comfortable using the Sigma on 60 megapixel, but not so for Gmaster. (Yet the sample Gordon Laing used for his test was much better).

Build quality: no difference overall. Sony zooms stiffer (definitely need two hands), Sigma has just about right resistance. It has all buttons Sony has so no missing (unlike Tamron) and i use all of them, especially AF/MF switch (cause in AF-C you cant magnify and going MF switch is easiest way to engage).

Price: Sigma way better then Sony. And... with seemingly almost no compromise except the heavy vignetting at 24mm. They also use 6 FLD glass element (top level glass, not used in cheap lenses). I see no reason for the Gmaster for it's price. They should stop producing it, and make ASAP a sharper version (then i can have the 'luxury' but best in class price tag of 2000-2500€, AF also needs to be even faster, so that you have more reasons to pay for premium (see 135mm GM speed, a reason to buy it over Sigma 135mm art).

Overall: no contest: get the Sigma unless you are alergic to Vignetting (but tbh Gmaster has a lot too, just less). Do not buy Sony if you are allergic to chromatic aberration. Sharpess sigma is much better at infinity (think travel pics), sony a little better at close distance (think portraits). Noone of the things you expect to be bad on third party lenses, actually are bothering with the Sigma (focus speed, accuracy, etc). They are damn good.

The Sigma isn't perfect but for the price, and the class of lens its into (hardest to design lens zoom range) they did a remarkable job. Better then anything i've used to far. Could be still a bit close to prime sharp, but this is the first 24-70mm that i'm having no pain with to accept the Sony A7RIV (60 megapixel) images it puts out (the gmaster cannot follow this resolution). Sigma 14-24mm is even better (best zoom i ever used, having an amount of fun i never had with ultra wide angle on that lens).

Note to original post: you say Sigma has optical stabilization, that is not true, only DSLR version has.

I know for sure the cameralabs gmaster is sharper then mine (the one he used long ago on Sony A7RIV launch even and has no some sample pics in the 24-70mm review). Apartments are NOT that sharp except at 35-46mm (where the gmaster is prime sharp) but a good drop at 24mm and massive drop at 70mm.
 
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I have both. Leaning strongly towards Sigma.

Colours, both good, but imo the Sony lacks a bit saturation and dims some colours to much. Similar like Sigma 14-24mm DG DN the new nano porous coating does very good job without making to vibrant colours.

Contrast: Sigma. Not as good as their primes or 14-24mm, but better then the Sony.

Vignetting: at 24mm wide open it's 'big' the vignetting on Sigma. It's still an issue on the Sony (so neither go free) but Sony better here. Staying F8 at 24mm cures most of issue (and for portrait like stuff i don't mind).

Chromatic aberration: Sigma way better, at first i didn't see any but now i see some traces, but they are incredible small, even better then some badly corrected lenses + software correction. My sony had among worst very broad purple outlining. And it happened in almost every scene, while the Sigma sometimes shows noone at all.

Focus speed, little win to Gmaster (but Sigma is by no means bad, it's better then anything in DSLR landscape imo apart oem pro lenses. No experiments on people tracking yet, sony probably slight win.

Weight: I thought i wouldbe small difference, but the Sony is longer and heavier, and this combines into a less balanced setup, where you actually feel the difference. Now to be fair i like a bit of heft to keep combo steady (and usually the image quality it brings), but the Gmaster imo lacks a bit of that last.

Sharpness:

A7III/A9 no difference (other then listed above)

A7RIII: bad copies of Gmaster (wich i think mine if one of many off) start to get soft a bit at 24mm, but a lot so at 70mm. 70mm is really bad at infinity. The whole gmaster is good at portrait distance though. Sigma way better at infinity (especially 70mm, but surprisingly 24mm is also sharper. The corners get a massive boost above F5.6 on Sigma, this usually is not case on standard zooms, where the corners have unfixable astigmatism (that stopping down barely masks), this is not the case here. Close up i need more time with Sigma, but i think it's just a little less sharp but more then good enough (and has that nice close focus at 24mm). 70mm much better on Sigma.

Sony A7RIV: Same as above but difference really starts to show at infinity. Especially 70mm infinity is night and day better on Sigma. On cloudy days the vignetting on Sigma causes more noise (noise appears faster on r4 small pixels), good sunlight like in summer: no visible difference. I feel comfortable using the Sigma on 60 megapixel, but not so for Gmaster. (Yet the sample Gordon Laing used for his test was much better).

Build quality: no difference overall. Sony zooms stiffer (definitely need two hands), Sigma has just about right resistance. It has all buttons Sony has so no missing (unlike Tamron) and i use all of them, especially AF/MF switch (cause in AF-C you cant magnify and going MF switch is easiest way to engage).

Price: Sigma way better then Sony. And... with seemingly almost no compromise except the heavy vignetting at 24mm. They also use 6 FLD glass element (top level glass, not used in cheap lenses). I see no reason for the Gmaster for it's price. They should stop producing it, and make ASAP a sharper version (then i can have the 'luxury' but best in class price tag of 2000-2500€, AF also needs to be even faster, so that you have more reasons to pay for premium (see 135mm GM speed, a reason to buy it over Sigma 135mm art).

Overall: no contest: get the Sigma unless you are alergic to Vignetting (but tbh Gmaster has a lot too, just less). Do not buy Sony if you are allergic to chromatic aberration. Sharpess sigma is much better at infinity (think travel pics), sony a little better at close distance (think portraits). Noone of the things you expect to be bad on third party lenses, actually are bothering with the Sigma (focus speed, accuracy, etc). They are damn good.

The Sigma isn't perfect but for the price, and the class of lens its into (hardest to design lens zoom range) they did a remarkable job. Better then anything i've used to far. Could be still a bit close to prime sharp, but this is the first 24-70mm that i'm having no pain with to accept the Sony A7RIV (60 megapixel) images it puts out (the gmaster cannot follow this resolution). Sigma 14-24mm is even better (best zoom i ever used, having an amount of fun i never had with ultra wide angle on that lens).

Note to original post: you say Sigma has optical stabilization, that is not true, only DSLR version has.

I know for sure the cameralabs gmaster is sharper then mine (the one he used long ago on Sony A7RIV launch even and has no some sample pics in the 24-70mm review). Apartments are NOT that sharp except at 35-46mm (where the gmaster is prime sharp) but a good drop at 24mm and massive drop at 70mm.
Informative analysis, many thanks. I have seen some reviewers suggest the Sigma is soft at portrait distances and 2.8, can you remark?
 
Heavy but great image quality and versatile - would say the Sigma is almost as good as top tier primes I've used in the past - you'd have to really pixel peep to see a difference on the sony a7r iii with a 5k display. My landscape setup is now the Sigma 14-24mm and Sigma 24-70mm that replaced a set of Zeiss Batis and Loxia primes. I wasn't impressed with the lighter zooms - Tamron 28-75, Sony 24-105mm f4, and Sony 24-70mm f4 - none of them measured up to good prime lenses but the GM and Sigma Art zooms do.

I do plan on keeping a set of 3 primes for when size and weight matters (e.g. long hikes or street photography)- still trying to figure out which 3 primes though.
Thanks Tony, I currently have good copies of the Tamron 28-75 and Sony 24-105. Was thinking of selling my Tamron 28-75 and picking up the Sigma, good to hear you feel the Sigma is notably sharper than both.

Have you used the Sony 16-35/2.8? Curious on your thoughts on that lens compared to the Sigma 14-24.
 
Does anyone have experience with this Sigma 24-70 Art lens? How does it compare to the Sony 24-70 GM? The price is better on the former, it has image stabilization (which my camera has anyways) but it seems to be heavier. I am sure both lenses are sharp enough, but I am interested in color rendition, and rendition of out of focus areas.

Thanks,

-Charles
I have the Sigma 24-70 Art, briefly tried the Sony 24-70mm GM a few years ago, owned the 24-70mm f4, the 24-105mm f4 and the Tamron 28-75 in the past. Sigma handles a little better than the GM but both are heavy lenses. Neither lenses come with image stabilization - only the f4 versions does.

Quick take is that the Sony GM and Sigma Art are very comparable - maybe the Sigma is slightly sharper at distance and the Sony slightly faster with AF and sharper at close distance. Color and bokeh are both strong - I see no issues e.g. really busy bokeh with the Sigma and overall color palette seems pleasing on the Sigma. Both of these f2.8 zooms are significantly better than the other options on the market but they're big.
Thank you Tony. They are heavy. Right now that is my major concern!
Heavy but great image quality and versatile - would say the Sigma is almost as good as top tier primes I've used in the past - you'd have to really pixel peep to see a difference on the sony a7r iii with a 5k display. My landscape setup is now the Sigma 14-24mm and Sigma 24-70mm that replaced a set of Zeiss Batis and Loxia primes. I wasn't impressed with the lighter zooms - Tamron 28-75, Sony 24-105mm f4, and Sony 24-70mm f4 - none of them measured up to good prime lenses but the GM and Sigma Art zooms do.

I do plan on keeping a set of 3 primes for when size and weight matters (e.g. long hikes or street photography)- still trying to figure out which 3 primes though.
Thanks for this instructive response!

-Charles
 
I have both. Leaning strongly towards Sigma.

Colours, both good, but imo the Sony lacks a bit saturation and dims some colours to much. Similar like Sigma 14-24mm DG DN the new nano porous coating does very good job without making to vibrant colours.

Contrast: Sigma. Not as good as their primes or 14-24mm, but better then the Sony.

Vignetting: at 24mm wide open it's 'big' the vignetting on Sigma. It's still an issue on the Sony (so neither go free) but Sony better here. Staying F8 at 24mm cures most of issue (and for portrait like stuff i don't mind).

Chromatic aberration: Sigma way better, at first i didn't see any but now i see some traces, but they are incredible small, even better then some badly corrected lenses + software correction. My sony had among worst very broad purple outlining. And it happened in almost every scene, while the Sigma sometimes shows noone at all.

Focus speed, little win to Gmaster (but Sigma is by no means bad, it's better then anything in DSLR landscape imo apart oem pro lenses. No experiments on people tracking yet, sony probably slight win.

Weight: I thought i wouldbe small difference, but the Sony is longer and heavier, and this combines into a less balanced setup, where you actually feel the difference. Now to be fair i like a bit of heft to keep combo steady (and usually the image quality it brings), but the Gmaster imo lacks a bit of that last.

Sharpness:

A7III/A9 no difference (other then listed above)

A7RIII: bad copies of Gmaster (wich i think mine if one of many off) start to get soft a bit at 24mm, but a lot so at 70mm. 70mm is really bad at infinity. The whole gmaster is good at portrait distance though. Sigma way better at infinity (especially 70mm, but surprisingly 24mm is also sharper. The corners get a massive boost above F5.6 on Sigma, this usually is not case on standard zooms, where the corners have unfixable astigmatism (that stopping down barely masks), this is not the case here. Close up i need more time with Sigma, but i think it's just a little less sharp but more then good enough (and has that nice close focus at 24mm). 70mm much better on Sigma.

Sony A7RIV: Same as above but difference really starts to show at infinity. Especially 70mm infinity is night and day better on Sigma. On cloudy days the vignetting on Sigma causes more noise (noise appears faster on r4 small pixels), good sunlight like in summer: no visible difference. I feel comfortable using the Sigma on 60 megapixel, but not so for Gmaster. (Yet the sample Gordon Laing used for his test was much better).

Build quality: no difference overall. Sony zooms stiffer (definitely need two hands), Sigma has just about right resistance. It has all buttons Sony has so no missing (unlike Tamron) and i use all of them, especially AF/MF switch (cause in AF-C you cant magnify and going MF switch is easiest way to engage).

Price: Sigma way better then Sony. And... with seemingly almost no compromise except the heavy vignetting at 24mm. They also use 6 FLD glass element (top level glass, not used in cheap lenses). I see no reason for the Gmaster for it's price. They should stop producing it, and make ASAP a sharper version (then i can have the 'luxury' but best in class price tag of 2000-2500€, AF also needs to be even faster, so that you have more reasons to pay for premium (see 135mm GM speed, a reason to buy it over Sigma 135mm art).

Overall: no contest: get the Sigma unless you are alergic to Vignetting (but tbh Gmaster has a lot too, just less). Do not buy Sony if you are allergic to chromatic aberration. Sharpess sigma is much better at infinity (think travel pics), sony a little better at close distance (think portraits). Noone of the things you expect to be bad on third party lenses, actually are bothering with the Sigma (focus speed, accuracy, etc). They are damn good.

The Sigma isn't perfect but for the price, and the class of lens its into (hardest to design lens zoom range) they did a remarkable job. Better then anything i've used to far. Could be still a bit close to prime sharp, but this is the first 24-70mm that i'm having no pain with to accept the Sony A7RIV (60 megapixel) images it puts out (the gmaster cannot follow this resolution). Sigma 14-24mm is even better (best zoom i ever used, having an amount of fun i never had with ultra wide angle on that lens).

Note to original post: you say Sigma has optical stabilization, that is not true, only DSLR version has.

I know for sure the cameralabs gmaster is sharper then mine (the one he used long ago on Sony A7RIV launch even and has no some sample pics in the 24-70mm review). Apartments are NOT that sharp except at 35-46mm (where the gmaster is prime sharp) but a good drop at 24mm and massive drop at 70mm.
Matt, thank you so much for your detailed comparison. The problem seems to be that there is wide variability among individual lenses, especially for the GMaster. So one has to be lucky and test out their lens rigorously. That does make me feel a bit insecure, as I am in an area where delivery and returns are difficult to manage. Your leaning towards Sigma and the reasons behind it give me a lot to think about.

Thanks,

-Charles
 
Heavy but great image quality and versatile - would say the Sigma is almost as good as top tier primes I've used in the past - you'd have to really pixel peep to see a difference on the sony a7r iii with a 5k display. My landscape setup is now the Sigma 14-24mm and Sigma 24-70mm that replaced a set of Zeiss Batis and Loxia primes. I wasn't impressed with the lighter zooms - Tamron 28-75, Sony 24-105mm f4, and Sony 24-70mm f4 - none of them measured up to good prime lenses but the GM and Sigma Art zooms do.

I do plan on keeping a set of 3 primes for when size and weight matters (e.g. long hikes or street photography)- still trying to figure out which 3 primes though.
Thanks Tony, I currently have good copies of the Tamron 28-75 and Sony 24-105. Was thinking of selling my Tamron 28-75 and picking up the Sigma, good to hear you feel the Sigma is notably sharper than both.

Have you used the Sony 16-35/2.8? Curious on your thoughts on that lens compared to the Sigma 14-24.
I had the Sony 16-35mm and regretted selling it until I got the sigma. I think the sigma is sharper based on the review out there (It’s better than some top tier primes) - I did not compare them side by side. The Sony is excellent if you’re not pixel peeping too hard but not as good compared to a loxia prime lens which I did compare it too before selling the Sony zoom. The biggest drawback to the sigma is inability to use front filters. Size wise they feel about the same.

For the price and performance, especially if you can get the B&H promo price - I did via greentoe - the sigma is clearly the better value and the better lens in every way unless you absolutely want to use front screw in filters.
 
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Thank you Tony. They are heavy. Right now that is my major concern!
Heavy but great image quality and versatile - would say the Sigma is almost as good as top tier primes I've used in the past - you'd have to really pixel peep to see a difference on the sony a7r iii with a 5k display. My landscape setup is now the Sigma 14-24mm and Sigma 24-70mm that replaced a set of Zeiss Batis and Loxia primes. I wasn't impressed with the lighter zooms - Tamron 28-75, Sony 24-105mm f4, and Sony 24-70mm f4 - none of them measured up to good prime lenses but the GM and Sigma Art zooms do.

I do plan on keeping a set of 3 primes for when size and weight matters (e.g. long hikes or street photography)- still trying to figure out which 3 primes though.
Interesting, I had the same conclusion on 24105F4 and 2470F4 that they are not impressive (to me), but can you elaborate why Tamron 2875 is not Sharp? Thanks!
 
Thank you Tony. They are heavy. Right now that is my major concern!
Heavy but great image quality and versatile - would say the Sigma is almost as good as top tier primes I've used in the past - you'd have to really pixel peep to see a difference on the sony a7r iii with a 5k display. My landscape setup is now the Sigma 14-24mm and Sigma 24-70mm that replaced a set of Zeiss Batis and Loxia primes. I wasn't impressed with the lighter zooms - Tamron 28-75, Sony 24-105mm f4, and Sony 24-70mm f4 - none of them measured up to good prime lenses but the GM and Sigma Art zooms do.

I do plan on keeping a set of 3 primes for when size and weight matters (e.g. long hikes or street photography)- still trying to figure out which 3 primes though.
Interesting, I had the same conclusion on 24105F4 and 2470F4 that they are not impressive (to me), but can you elaborate why Tamron 2875 is not Sharp? Thanks!
I found the Tamron's edges to be noticeably softer at landscape apertures - it's very sharp in the center and weak in the corners. The bokeh is also mediocre and harsh.

The Sony 24-70mm GM and Sigma 24-70mm GM have much better bokeh (much smoother rendering at 70mm f2.8) and better across the frame sharpness (e.g. much better corners) than the Tamron that approaches top tier primes but not necessarily better than those primes.

That said, there are a lot of members here that love the Tamron but I came away unimpressed with it twice.
 
Thank you Tony. They are heavy. Right now that is my major concern!
Heavy but great image quality and versatile - would say the Sigma is almost as good as top tier primes I've used in the past - you'd have to really pixel peep to see a difference on the sony a7r iii with a 5k display. My landscape setup is now the Sigma 14-24mm and Sigma 24-70mm that replaced a set of Zeiss Batis and Loxia primes. I wasn't impressed with the lighter zooms - Tamron 28-75, Sony 24-105mm f4, and Sony 24-70mm f4 - none of them measured up to good prime lenses but the GM and Sigma Art zooms do.

I do plan on keeping a set of 3 primes for when size and weight matters (e.g. long hikes or street photography)- still trying to figure out which 3 primes though.
Interesting, I had the same conclusion on 24105F4 and 2470F4 that they are not impressive (to me), but can you elaborate why Tamron 2875 is not Sharp? Thanks!
I found the Tamron's edges to be noticeably softer at landscape apertures - it's very sharp in the center and weak in the corners. The bokeh is also mediocre and harsh.

The Sony 24-70mm GM and Sigma 24-70mm GM have much better bokeh (much smoother rendering at 70mm f2.8) and better across the frame sharpness (e.g. much better corners) than the Tamron that approaches top tier primes but not necessarily better than those primes.

That said, there are a lot of members here that love the Tamron but I came away unimpressed with it twice.
I see, and I agree with you mostly ... this lens is very sharp in the center for sure, I care slightly less on bokeh since I have some decent portrait lenses for those usage. The corner IQ might suffer from abnormal vignetting (otherwise it is against physics for such a "compact" diameter, the filter size is 67mm while the sigma and Sony GM are both 82mm ), so I kept it as a "travel" lens when I do not care mid-long end.
 
My simple analysis after shooting both: If you do a lot of portraits at 70mm, hands-down, the Sigma. If you do a lot of landscapes and need sharp edges at the wide end, the Sony GM.
 

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