Which is your favorite Fuji sensor (Fuji users with more than one camera)

[saltydogstudios]

One of the reasons I purchased the X-Pro1 was someone's statement that they had "captured lightning in a bottle" with this sensor - there is something about the way this sensor renders a scene that's worth the love.

As someone who owns an X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 - I would agree with this statement. The X-Pro2 is an excellent camera and competes on a high level against the competition - but the X-Pro1 has a character that's hard to get at with the X-Pro2. (and vice versa)

In 2020 - I'm thinking of either getting an X100 (original sensor - with more magic?) or an X100V - for the weather sealing and better high ISO and autofocus. The camera with more magic or the camera that's generally more capable.

I'm curious if the dpreview Fuji X-System forum perceives any differences between the sensor generations?

** TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE SURVEY **

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Both X100 and X-Pro1 (as you now know) were great.

 

[cantanima bis]

Needs options for EXR, SuperCCD, ...

 

[saltydogstudios]

Needs options for EXR, SuperCCD, ...

Interesting. I do have a Fuji S-5-Pro which I consider to be a good home for some of my Nikon glass. Do you consider this to be the pinnacle?

 

[Erik Baumgartner]

I like the X-Trans III sensor (for RAW, anyway). While lacking the speed and focus point spread of the IV, I prefer the overall image quality, particularly at very high ISOs. I don’t think there’s anything the older sensors can do that can’t be reproduced and improved upon with an X-Trans III file and some post processing craftiness.

 

[cantanima bis]

Needs options for EXR, SuperCCD, ...

Interesting. I do have a Fuji S-5-Pro which I consider to be a good home for some of my Nikon glass. Do you consider this to be the pinnacle?

I've never owned an S-5-Pro; I just know of its reputation from at least two recent threads, if nothing else! I did own a few EXR cameras: the X10 which I loved, the X-S1 which I still have & like, and the HS25 which purchase I wish I could forget. I just thought that the survey ought to be more comprehensive.

 

[oscarvdvelde]

My X-T1 X-Trans II was fine for images, but not for video. My X-T3 sensor does 4K video, has more autofocus sites and electronic shutter (I use it with pre-buffer continuous H mode for daytime lightning photography), 10 MP more resolution and I think the colors, noise etc. in photographs are just as wonderful. This sensor brought a lot of new features.

 

[timwit]

One of the reasons I purchased the X-Pro1 was someone's statement that they had "captured lightning in a bottle" with this sensor - there is something about the way this sensor renders a scene that's worth the love.
As someone who owns an X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 - I would agree with this statement. The X-Pro2 is an excellent camera and competes on a high level against the competition - but the X-Pro1 has a character that's hard to get at with the X-Pro2. (and vice versa)
In 2020 - I'm thinking of either getting an X100 (original sensor - with more magic?) or an X100V - for the weather sealing and better high ISO and autofocus. The camera with more magic or the camera that's generally more capable.
I'm curious if the dpreview Fuji X-System forum perceives any differences between the sensor generations?
** TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE SURVEY **

The Fuji X-Pro1 paired with the 35 f/1.4 R is a beautiful combination. The sensor produced stunning, vibrant colors and was a step above the original 12 MP Bayerm sensor in the area of high ISO performance.

Tim C.

 

[Matt Fulghum]

I put the X-Trans IV bodies in first; the X-T3 and X-T4 are a joy to shoot with for me, no matter what lens I mount, and the SOOC jpegs look great if I'm in a hurry.

Second place is X-Trans I for me; the X-M1 was my gateway drug, and that sensor/processor combo, when paired with the XF 27mm f2.8, is just a lot of fun. heck, it's fun to use it with the 16-50 plastic fantastic.

It's hard to rate the X-Trans II and III for me; I don't dislike the output from either, but I like the IV and I better. I really enjoyed, and still enjoy, my X-T20, but the faster processors and PDAF in the IV chipset make it less enjoyable to me than the newer bodies I own. Similarly, I don't like the output of the X-E2S as much as any of the others. It's not that it's bad, it's just lacking something for me SOOC. Shooting raws mitigates a lot of those issues, but doesn't fix the ergonomics (it was a cheap way to find out that I don't really like rangefinder-style bodies.)

 

[saltydogstudios]

Needs options for EXR, SuperCCD, ...

Interesting. I do have a Fuji S-5-Pro which I consider to be a good home for some of my Nikon glass. Do you consider this to be the pinnacle?

I've never owned an S-5-Pro; I just know of its reputation from at least two recent threads, if nothing else! I did own a few EXR cameras: the X10 which I loved, the X-S1 which I still have & like, and the HS25 which purchase I wish I could forget. I just thought that the survey ought to be more comprehensive.

I own the S5 Pro and so far so good, but I haven't had a chance to really put it through its paces for what it's supposed to be good at (skin tones)..

I did briefly own a point & shoot that had - I forget which but the one with half the pixels at half sensitivity for extended dynamic range - it wasn't great, but as a point & shoot I didn't hold that against the technology.

I love that Fuji has been experimenting with sensor tech for so long and glad the X-Trans has finally give them more legitimacy in terms of sensor tech.

 

[saltydogstudios]

One of the reasons I purchased the X-Pro1 was someone's statement that they had "captured lightning in a bottle" with this sensor - there is something about the way this sensor renders a scene that's worth the love.
As someone who owns an X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 - I would agree with this statement. The X-Pro2 is an excellent camera and competes on a high level against the competition - but the X-Pro1 has a character that's hard to get at with the X-Pro2. (and vice versa)
In 2020 - I'm thinking of either getting an X100 (original sensor - with more magic?) or an X100V - for the weather sealing and better high ISO and autofocus. The camera with more magic or the camera that's generally more capable.
I'm curious if the dpreview Fuji X-System forum perceives any differences between the sensor generations?
** TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE SURVEY **

The Fuji X-Pro1 paired with the 35 f/1.4 R is a beautiful combination. The sensor produced stunning, vibrant colors and was a step above the original 12 MP Bayerm sensor in the area of high ISO performance.

Tim C.

Agree.

The combination reminds me of the camera + sensor combo I had for years and absolutely loved - the Nikon D7000 and 35mm f/1.8 G.

Nikon's colors and Fuji's colors are night and day different, but there's something about the overall rendition that's pleasing.

I may have heard a rumor that they're the same sensor, which won't affect color (totally different color filter arrays) but may affect things like highlight falloff.

The D7000 had a strong anti aliasing filter which made for pleasing, but less than "sharp" images, which only ever bothered me for studio use - for natural light it was great.

In any case, the two cameras remind me of each other - whether they use the same sensor or not.

A decent portion of my portfolio was taken with the D7000.

 

[cantanima bis]

I did briefly own a point & shoot that had - I forget which but the one with half the pixels at half sensitivity for extended dynamic range - it wasn't great, but as a point & shoot I didn't hold that against the technology.

Sounds like EXR to me, but that did half the pixels at twice the shutter speed, or even 4 times the shutter speed. Maybe one of the SuperCCD's; I'm not so familiar with them.

 

[Nas from the Valley]

X-Trans III is still the best in terms of IQ in low ISO situations.

 

[mahidoes]

I voted for 12MP bayer.

My stance is dear fuji either make bayer sensor or talk to Adobe

 

[Greg7579]

Modern Camnera Rule Number 1:

In all modern digital cameras of all brands. The latest sensor is always better 100% of the time and without exception.

Some will say, I like the look of my 12 year old canon shots better than my new Fuji GFX 100. (Someone actually said that.)

But that is always wrong and new sensors are always better than oldewr sensors just like new TVs and computers are always better than the preivious models and generations.

Always. No exceptions. 100% of the time.

--
Greg Johnson, San Antonio, Texas
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139148982@N02/albums

 

[Erik Baumgartner]

Modern Camnera Rule Number 1:

In all modern digital cameras of all brands. The latest sensor is always better 100% of the time and without exception.

Some will say, I like the look of my 12 year old canon shots better than my new Fuji GFX 100. (Someone actually said that.)

But that is always BS and new sensors are always better than oldewr sensors just like new TVs and computers are always better than the preivious models and generations.

Always. No exceptions. 100% of the time.

I beg to differ, while a newer sensor will typically be better in some respects, it won't necessarily be in all respects. The X-Trans IV sensor has much faster readout than its predecessor which, for the video shooter or sports shooter is better, sure. But all that speed does come with a cost - increased noise relative to its predecessor, NOT better for the low light/high ISO shooter. The Sony A9/A7III sensors also share a similar performance discrepancy.

Not Always, There are exceptions, Some of the time.

X-Trans III (L), X-Trans IV (R) ISO 12800, identical NR settings, significantly more noise in the IV - both luminance and chroma.

X-Trans III (L), X-Trans IV (R) ISO 12800, X-Trans IV cleaned up to equalize noise, note the significant unavoidable color bleed in the eyes and lips.

 

[thomaslux]

Modern Camnera Rule Number 1:

In all modern digital cameras of all brands. The latest sensor is always better 100% of the time and without exception.

Some will say, I like the look of my 12 year old canon shots better than my new Fuji GFX 100. (Someone actually said that.)

But that is always BS and new sensors are always better than oldewr sensors just like new TVs and computers are always better than the preivious models and generations.

Always. No exceptions. 100% of the time.

--
Greg Johnson, San Antonio, Texas
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139148982@N02/albums

Greg, how can someone saying they like the output of one senior over another be BS? It's a preference.

My favourite Fuji images so far came from my X-T1. A beautiful sensor for pictures of people.

The X-A1 and its Bayer sensor also was pretty hot stuff

 

[Greg7579]

Modern Camnera Rule Number 1:

In all modern digital cameras of all brands. The latest sensor is always better 100% of the time and without exception.

Some will say, I like the look of my 12 year old canon shots better than my new Fuji GFX 100. (Someone actually said that.)

But that is always BS and new sensors are always better than oldewr sensors just like new TVs and computers are always better than the preivious models and generations.

Always. No exceptions. 100% of the time.

Greg, how can someone saying they like the output of one senior over another be BS? It's a preference.

My favourite Fuji images so far came from my X-T1. A beautiful sensor for pictures of people.

The X-A1 and its Bayer sensor also was pretty hot stuff

BS was the wrong term to use. Sorry. Everyone has visual preferences. But the newest gen of the various sensors will always be better in a technical and general capability sense.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Everyone has visual preferences.

This is what the post is about.

But the newest gen of the various sensors will always be better in a technical and general capability sense.

This is not what the post is about.

 

[debo]

The IV has a more "clinical" look esp the jpegs. The I has a more a filmic look and the ii, iii are in between.

Maybe its good to have a x-trans-i body in your arsenal for dirt cheap.