Changing almost full ink cartridges Canon PRO-1000

[mujana]

Mujana, the question is I guess does the printer measure the ink used from the upper reservoir, or the lower cartridge. If the former then changing carts would mean the calculation of what is left in the cartridge is thrown off by it not being the same one.

correct. Don’t know where it’s measured. In case of upper reservoir, I wonder what effect this will have for warning signs (cartridge empty).

When you initalise a printer/head, you need to ensure that there is more than enough for the process. Running out during this period could cause issues with head cooling ! So using a part used 85% cart might be OK .... a 35% cartridge might be cause for concern.

thnxs Ken. My cartridges are certainly at least 85% full. At least, if the printerscreen is a good indication.

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[mujana]

Though I am not a Canon engineer , I understand that the ink from your carts is pumped ( no gravity as sit too low) into an upper tank from where they feed to the head. So if you move the printer this can leak from these upper tanks.... this is where you hear them being agitated or churned to keep the stuff mixed. When ink is pumped to the upper tank, this is measured and the amount tells when your lower storage is empty. If you place a full lower cart into a machine that has pumped 40ml of its 80ml , I can see the error forming, because it thinks there is only 40ml left.

I understand that unlike the gravity fed printers , where a break in the ink flow can cause air in the lines and head ( big issue) this system always maintains the flow to the head even when the lower cart is empty..... this is because the upper storage still contains ink.

By my understanding the carts are self sealing and if you are worried about drying out place in clingfilm in a sealed plastic bag. As for the refurbished , all sorts of things come to mind , but if one were broken in transit ( plastic damage) and that bit was replaced ... though the print head never used , would it be a problem ? Will the head be in a box NEW and never used ? The Queen of England only gets a new car once it has done 40,000 miles they say ......... this is to run it in and ensure there will be no chance of a part failing !

Best of luck .

If Canon were to send you a replacement Pro-1000 the way it works is inside the box the body of the unit would be refurbished. However, it would come with a brand new never opened Print Head to install as you would when a unit is new. Also a new pack of all the inks never opened would be included. The only thing NOT virgin new from the factory is the body. That would not, I expect, be much of an issue in the long run. At least the print head and inks are all spanking brand new to start off with.

 

[mujana]

I just received a message that my new Pro-1000 (delivery Monday), is absolutely factory new; "exactly like you would buy new in store". Nothing refurbished....but brand new!

Great news ofcourse, and perfect customer service from Canon!

Ofcourse there are a new questions right away....is the set up of my new PRO-1000 any different from the first setup/install? I mean, can I leave all software/divers/etc. on my iMac? Should I maybe delete it and start all "fresh" ?

Is the installing of the new printer different in any way??

I will have to think (hard) how I did all this 4 months ago. Step by step.

 

[Ken60]

I guess drivers etc should all be the same, the only query I can see is the MAC address of the unit might change causing an issue with the wireless settings.

Were it me I might install with a USB cable and then recheck the wireless settings once installed, or during the install. The rest is all basically given to you stage by stage on the screen of the printer with the head fitting being the only bit you need to watch each step. Installing these things is as easy as falling over after a drink !

 

[mujana]

I guess drivers etc should all be the same, the only query I can see is the MAC address of the unit might change causing an issue with the wireless settings.

thnxs Ken. I don' t do anything wireless with my iMac/printer

Were it me I might install with a USB cable and then recheck the wireless settings once installed, or during the install. The rest is all basically given to you stage by stage on the screen of the printer with the head fitting being the only bit you need to watch each step. Installing these things is as easy as falling over after a drink !

....so keep the drivers/software/Canon printer stuff on my iMac...and go ahead. No need to reinstall everything.

As I said...I always only use usb cable

There was something about “calibrating” the printer first before making any official prints. Can’t remember....

 

[Ken60]

During the setup process you will be asked , after installing the inks, to take the papers given in the kit and place the correct way round in the machine. This will first print a series of bars and then draw it back in for scanning to "linearise" or standardise the printer. THis process is said to bring all the disparate units manufactured to a common standard. It is said that this allows you to own several Canon Pro printers and use the same profile and process to print an image on any of them and obtain a similar result.

THis said I would consider rebuilding my paper profiles for the new unit , were I to have a couple of papers that I now used for everything . If I were still dabbling with several and using canned profiles to compare results before settling, I would just bat on in .

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Gear ... what I need to get the job done , after all you don't see mechanics listing their brand of spanner as a qualification .

 

[mujana]

During the setup process you will be asked , after installing the inks, to take the papers given in the kit and place the correct way round in the machine. This will first print a series of bars and then draw it back in for scanning to "linearise" or standardise the printer. THis process is said to bring all the disparate units manufactured to a common standard. It is said that this allows you to own several Canon Pro printers and use the same profile and process to print an image on any of them and obtain a similar result.

THis said I would consider rebuilding my paper profiles for the new unit , were I to have a couple of papers that I now used for everything . If I were still dabbling with several and using canned profiles to compare results before settling, I would just bat on in .

 

[ProDude]

I just received a message that my new Pro-1000 (delivery Monday), is absolutely factory new; "exactly like you would buy new in store". Nothing refurbished....but brand new!

Great news ofcourse, and perfect customer service from Canon!

Ofcourse there are a new questions right away....is the set up of my new PRO-1000 any different from the first setup/install? I mean, can I leave all software/divers/etc. on my iMac? Should I maybe delete it and start all "fresh" ?

Is the installing of the new printer different in any way??

I will have to think (hard) how I did all this 4 months ago. Step by step.

Assuming you've updated your software you should be good to go. If I was getting a brand new one as you say. I'd load the print head and inks and run a confirmation of print alignment and such. All your software would be done already and no need to do any reloading. I would make sure the firmware on the new machine was up to date however. After that you're good to go.

 

[mujana]

I just received a message that my new Pro-1000 (delivery Monday), is absolutely factory new; "exactly like you would buy new in store". Nothing refurbished....but brand new!

Great news ofcourse, and perfect customer service from Canon!

Ofcourse there are a new questions right away....is the set up of my new PRO-1000 any different from the first setup/install? I mean, can I leave all software/divers/etc. on my iMac? Should I maybe delete it and start all "fresh" ?

Is the installing of the new printer different in any way??

I will have to think (hard) how I did all this 4 months ago. Step by step.

Assuming you've updated your software you should be good to go. If I was getting a brand new one as you say. I'd load the print head and inks and run a confirmation of print alignment and such. All your software would be done already and no need to do any reloading. I would make sure the firmware on the new machine was up to date however. After that you're good to go.

 

[mujana]

I just received a message that my new Pro-1000 (delivery Monday), is absolutely factory new; "exactly like you would buy new in store". Nothing refurbished....but brand new!

Great news ofcourse, and perfect customer service from Canon!

Ofcourse there are a new questions right away....is the set up of my new PRO-1000 any different from the first setup/install? I mean, can I leave all software/divers/etc. on my iMac? Should I maybe delete it and start all "fresh" ?

Is the installing of the new printer different in any way??

I will have to think (hard) how I did all this 4 months ago. Step by step.

Assuming you've updated your software you should be good to go. If I was getting a brand new one as you say. I'd load the print head and inks and run a confirmation of print alignment and such. All your software would be done already and no need to do any reloading.

Do you think the new printer will automatically recognise the (on iMac) installed sofware (after connecting with usb cable ofcourse)?

I would make sure the firmware on the new machine was up to date however. After that you're good to go.

 

[ProDude]

Do you think the new printer will automatically recognise the (on iMac) installed sofware (after connecting with usb cable ofcourse)?

Sorry that's out of my realm. I'm a PC guy ;-) On a PC it WOULD recognize existing software just as if nothing had changed. However it's obvious that the print head and inks will need to go through the usual setup and alignment of course.

 

[mujana]

Do you think the new printer will automatically recognise the (on iMac) installed sofware (after connecting with usb cable ofcourse)?

Sorry that's out of my realm. I'm a PC guy ;-) On a PC it WOULD recognize existing software just as if nothing had changed.

Thnxs ProDude!
Tomorrow I’ll probably see if it works...in afternoon they’ll deliver my new PRO-1000 (and take my present one).

However it's obvious that the print head and inks will need to go through the usual setup and alignment of course.

ofcourse ...first usual setup...(print head/ink), without usb cable.

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[mujana]

I have this brand new Canon PRO-1000 now in house. I forgot how to go through the calibration process. In Canon Device Management Console I can see that almost all groups of papers are " Not performed (calibration not available)" status.

How can I do a quick and complete calibration here?

Someone please help?

 

[ProDude]

I have this brand new Canon PRO-1000 now in house. I forgot how to go through the calibration process. In Canon Device Management Console I can see that almost all groups of papers are " Not performed (calibration not available)" status.

How can I do a quick and complete calibration here?

Someone please help?

It's been a while for me but I do recall all calibration capabilities are part of the menu on the printer. Use your up down left and right circular control on the printer to scroll through options. I'm quite sure calibration is one of many things available to you there. Just find it and hit the center OK button in the center to choose it and it will run it. Make sure you have a plain paper loaded for it to print to.

 

[mujana]

I have this brand new Canon PRO-1000 now in house. I forgot how to go through the calibration process. In Canon Device Management Console I can see that almost all groups of papers are " Not performed (calibration not available)" status.

How can I do a quick and complete calibration here?

Someone please help?

And now it says for most paper groups:

“Normal (calibrated with Photo Paper Pro Platinum)”

Is that how it should be??

I first calibrated on printer screen with Photo Paper Plus Glossy II. After that, only this paper said “Normal” in Canon Device Management Console. All other paper groups said as I explained above (calibration not available).

After that I performed another calibration (on printer screen), now with Photo Paper Pro Platinum.
As said before....almost all papers in Device Management Console say:

”Normal (calibration performed with Photo Paper Pro Platinum)”

is this how it should be?

 

[mujana]

I have this brand new Canon PRO-1000 now in house. I forgot how to go through the calibration process. In Canon Device Management Console I can see that almost all groups of papers are " Not performed (calibration not available)" status.

How can I do a quick and complete calibration here?

Someone please help?

It's been a while for me but I do recall all calibration capabilities are part of the menu on the printer. Use your up down left and right circular control on the printer to scroll through options. I'm quite sure calibration is one of many things available to you there. Just find it and hit the center OK button in the center to choose it and it will run it. Make sure you have a plain paper loaded for it to print to.

Thank you!

As I said, I did calibrate through the printer screen with both Photo Paper Plus Glossy II and Photo Paper Pro Platinum. With this scrolling wheel on printer you also have to select the proper paper. I don' t think, that I' ll have to choose ALL different papers and make all separate calibrations. But I' ll do that once again with plain paper.

In Device Management Console when I select under Calibration advisability: Calibrated, then only Plus Glossy II and Pro platinum show. When I select All" , I see all papers as mentioned in earlier post (before this one). No green colour for ...calibrated.

 

[mujana]

Beside that:

" I cannot connect with network. Check LAN connection and network. settings. Connection may be possible after some time"...is what printer screen says.

I only want to print with usb...don' t care for other computers or wifi connections. Straight from computer to printer. That' s it.

 

[mujana]

I have this brand new Canon PRO-1000 now in house. I forgot how to go through the calibration process. In Canon Device Management Console I can see that almost all groups of papers are " Not performed (calibration not available)" status.

How can I do a quick and complete calibration here?

Someone please help?

It's been a while for me but I do recall all calibration capabilities are part of the menu on the printer. Use your up down left and right circular control on the printer to scroll through options. I'm quite sure calibration is one of many things available to you there. Just find it and hit the center OK button in the center to choose it and it will run it. Make sure you have a plain paper loaded for it to print to.

Thank you!

As I said, I did calibrate through the printer screen with both Photo Paper Plus Glossy II and Photo Paper Pro Platinum. With this scrolling wheel on printer you also have to select the proper paper. I don' t think, that I' ll have to choose ALL different papers and make all separate calibrations. But I' ll do that once again with plain paper.

Plain Paper cannot be selected.

In Device Management Console when I select under Calibration advisability: Calibrated, then only Plus Glossy II and Pro platinum show. When I select All" , I see all papers as mentioned in earlier post (before this one). No green colour for ...calibrated.

 

[ProDude]

I have this brand new Canon PRO-1000 now in house. I forgot how to go through the calibration process. In Canon Device Management Console I can see that almost all groups of papers are " Not performed (calibration not available)" status.

How can I do a quick and complete calibration here?

Someone please help?

And now it says for most paper groups:

“Normal (calibrated with Photo Paper Pro Platinum)”

Is that how it should be??

I first calibrated on printer screen with Photo Paper Plus Glossy II. After that, only this paper said “Normal” in Canon Device Management Console. All other paper groups said as I explained above (calibration not available).

After that I performed another calibration (on printer screen), now with Photo Paper Pro Platinum.
As said before....almost all papers in Device Management Console say:

”Normal (calibration performed with Photo Paper Pro Platinum)”

is this how it should be?

Sorry bout that I was thinking of something else. I was probably thinking of "Alignment" as Calibration has to do with specific papers. I have virtually all of their types but prefer the Pro Luster. I've used them all and prefer it for it's characteristics overall. But they should all be available when it comes to Calibration.

 

[mujana]

I have this brand new Canon PRO-1000 now in house. I forgot how to go through the calibration process. In Canon Device Management Console I can see that almost all groups of papers are " Not performed (calibration not available)" status.

How can I do a quick and complete calibration here?

Someone please help?

And now it says for most paper groups:

“Normal (calibrated with Photo Paper Pro Platinum)”

Is that how it should be??

I first calibrated on printer screen with Photo Paper Plus Glossy II. After that, only this paper said “Normal” in Canon Device Management Console. All other paper groups said as I explained above (calibration not available).

After that I performed another calibration (on printer screen), now with Photo Paper Pro Platinum.
As said before....almost all papers in Device Management Console say:

”Normal (calibration performed with Photo Paper Pro Platinum)”

is this how it should be?

Sorry bout that I was thinking of something else. I was probably thinking of "Alignment" as Calibration has to do with specific papers. I have virtually all of their types but prefer the Pro Luster. I've used them all and prefer it for it's characteristics overall. But they should all be available when it comes to Calibration.

Well I just made an A4 test print on Hahnemühle Torchon Paper. Used Qimage One to print. I made this print also with my earlier PRO-1000, so I can compare. Both prints look exactly the same....no difference at all.

Maybe I worry too much what Device Management Console says....print look the same (at least for this paper).