Resolution Matters!

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I realize 90% of people purchasing "high resolution" DSLR cameras mostly buy them because it sounds good and more pixels is better, right? I prefer to be able to design "poster" prints that are usually 60" x 40" but, per my design below, I will be producing this to a size of 8 foot x 3 foot. I will have an optional archival-print quality available but mostly I produce stuff like this and sell to business owners looking to decorate their local offices with a professional print but on more economical "poster" paper.

The Sony A7RIV really produces clean files and combined with a good piece of glass the creative options are endless. Most 4/3'rds cameras can easily product 18" x 24" poster prints with reasonable resolution but once you get to 3' and beyond the extra file size translates to ROI value.

This mockup was produced from 4 vertically shot RAW files in Lightroom and stitched together producing a 550+megabyte file which then I brought into my InDesign layout and export to PDF for the printer.

I share this because there might be a very small percentage of people here that actually do something with their photos besides talking about gear and hopefully it gives them some insight to what they can do creatively.

In regards to the composition - We rarely get clouds in the Las Vegas valley due to a static high pressure system until the late summer when monsoon season kicks in. I will try a sunset version of this perspective but then you lose the detail of the buildings which is what this is really about. Also, IMHO, the westside looking at the Strip is better than the eastside from a buildings standpoint.

I doubt my EXIF is in this eventual file but it was shot with a Sony A7RIV and the 70-300mm lens.

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Yes A7r IV resolution is amazing. Your photo is too small to reveal that but a very good pano photo :-) Also 70-300 G although pretty good in general but not tack sharp. 100-400 GM or a prime lens will resolve more.

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full size with FE 16-35 GM from a single photo

I also love stitching photos, used to stitch lots, as high as around 40~50 photos in one pano. Then stitched in PTGui Pro. But it only can export to TIFF file. The size is huge and now even getting much worse with 61mp A7r IV. I'd love to use Lr as it generates Adobe DNG raw file right in software but it is so slow in my outdated iMac 5K. In reality it only can deal with a few RAWs and if photos are more than 5 or 6 it hung forever. I am waiting future iMac 8K and I will choose max configuration - 64GB RAM, NvME SSD, fastest processor then.

pano that stitched around 40 shots, only 1/6 actual size. EF 70-200L/4.0 IS on 5D2
pano that stitched around 40 shots, only 1/6 actual size. EF 70-200L/4.0 IS on 5D2

Could not wait next time I mount 135 GM on A7r IV for such pano photo :-)

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Yup, if you need a big file resolution is king. At the National Gallery of Art I shoot with a PhaseOne iXG100. It's a 100mp medium format camera. One 16 bit tiff out of that thing is about 575MP. Pixel dimensions are 11608 x 8708. And when I shoot works on paper (that's my studio there) larger than roughly 16x20 inches I'll shoot it in 4 sections totalling about a one gig file. We shoot them that big for any future needs like wall sized panels or to be plastered on the side of a bus. But also for conservation. Anyway, you're right, if you need large output, resolution is the only way to go.

Oh, and BTW they've come out with a 150mp version of it and I'll be getting on of those soon or whenever we're allowed to go back to work
 
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I realize 90% of people purchasing "high resolution" DSLR cameras mostly buy them because it sounds good and more pixels is better, right? I prefer to be able to design "poster" prints that are usually 60" x 40" but, per my design below, I will be producing this to a size of 8 foot x 3 foot. I will have an optional archival-print quality available but mostly I produce stuff like this and sell to business owners looking to decorate their local offices with a professional print but on more economical "poster" paper.

The Sony A7RIV really produces clean files and combined with a good piece of glass the creative options are endless. Most 4/3'rds cameras can easily product 18" x 24" poster prints with reasonable resolution but once you get to 3' and beyond the extra file size translates to ROI value.

This mockup was produced from 4 vertically shot RAW files in Lightroom and stitched together producing a 550+megabyte file which then I brought into my InDesign layout and export to PDF for the printer.

I share this because there might be a very small percentage of people here that actually do something with their photos besides talking about gear and hopefully it gives them some insight to what they can do creatively.

In regards to the composition - We rarely get clouds in the Las Vegas valley due to a static high pressure system until the late summer when monsoon season kicks in. I will try a sunset version of this perspective but then you lose the detail of the buildings which is what this is really about. Also, IMHO, the westside looking at the Strip is better than the eastside from a buildings standpoint.

I doubt my EXIF is in this eventual file but it was shot with a Sony A7RIV and the 70-300mm lens.
Was this shot from Calico Hills?


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Was this shot from Calico Hills?
I think I know where that is but this is what I would call Southwest Ridge East....basically Hualapai and Highway 160.....I rode my mountain bike up the ledge that goes about 7 miles.
 
Yup, if you need a big file resolution is king. At the National Gallery of Art I shoot with a PhaseOne iXG100. It's a 100mp medium format camera. One 16 bit tiff out of that thing is about 575MP. Pixel dimensions are 11608 x 8708. And when I shoot works on paper (that's my studio there) larger than roughly 16x20 inches I'll shoot it in 4 sections totalling about a one gig file. We shoot them that big for any future needs like wall sized panels or to be plastered on the side of a bus. But also for conservation. Anyway, you're right, if you need large output, resolution is the only way to go.

Oh, and BTW they've come out with a 150mp version of it and I'll be getting on of those soon or whenever we're allowed to go back to work
DUDE! I cannot even image managing those 16bit files.....and, no doubt that PhaseOne back is madd sick as far as a clean file. You must have a great sense of satisfaction seeing your work hung and have it look so great from 3' away to 30' away.
 
Yup, if you need a big file resolution is king. At the National Gallery of Art I shoot with a PhaseOne iXG100. It's a 100mp medium format camera. One 16 bit tiff out of that thing is about 575MP. Pixel dimensions are 11608 x 8708. And when I shoot works on paper (that's my studio there) larger than roughly 16x20 inches I'll shoot it in 4 sections totalling about a one gig file. We shoot them that big for any future needs like wall sized panels or to be plastered on the side of a bus. But also for conservation. Anyway, you're right, if you need large output, resolution is the only way to go.

Oh, and BTW they've come out with a 150mp version of it and I'll be getting on of those soon or whenever we're allowed to go back to work
DUDE! I cannot even image managing those 16bit files.....and, no doubt that PhaseOne back is madd sick as far as a clean file. You must have a great sense of satisfaction seeing your work hung and have it look so great from 3' away to 30' away.
I do. Once those files are all finished with the color correction layers they usually wind up being anywhere from 2 to 7 gigabyte files. Crazy huge.

I'm a lucky boy and thankful for the opportunity to work for one of the worlds greatest museums as a photographer.
 
Was this shot from Calico Hills?
I think I know where that is but this is what I would call Southwest Ridge East....basically Hualapai and Highway 160.....I rode my mountain bike up the ledge that goes about 7 miles.
Calico Hills is in Red Rock Canyon. I'm from Texas but in the 90s, I went to LV 3-4 times a year to gamble and do other LV things. However, I discovered Red Rock Canyon and it was my gateway to a new interest, hiking, eventually in national parks and led to my carrying cameras on these hikes. BTW, my niece used to live close to Hualapai & 160.

This was my first and only pano. This is atop Calico Hills looking into the canyon. Shot in 2012 with a 24 MP D3x which was considered high resolution when it was released. At some point in the future, 61 MPs will take its place alongside previous resolution Kings.

This was my first and only pano. This is atop Calico Hills looking into the canyon. Shot in 2012 with a 24 MP D3x which was considered high resolution when it was released. At some point in the future, 61 MPs will take its place alongside previous resolution Kings.

If you scramble up a ways, you'll get to this view. I can see now that the angle isn't the same.

This was shot on a different trip. I believe there was a wildfire somewhere in Cali.
This was shot on a different trip. I believe there was a wildfire somewhere in Cali.

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I also love stitching photos, used to stitch lots, as high as around 40~50 photos in one pano. Then stitched in PTGui Pro. But it only can export to TIFF file.
That is incorrect. I also use PT Gui Pro and use .PSB (Photoshop Large) as my output format. My panoramic workflow starts with a Sony A7R IV, or Nikon Z7 and I use either Capture One Pro 20 or Lightroom CC Classic depending on the subject and preferred color rendering. I then export 16-bit per channel TIFFs in ProPhoto RGB. After the composite is made in PTGui Pro, and this can be made of from up to 48 images, I export it as a layered .psb file, staying in 16-bit ProPhoto RGB, and finish the project ( retouching any glitches where subjects were moving where the frames overlap, then flattening and doing a final crop, etc.) in Photoshop CC 2020

My computer is a late 2014 5K Retina iMac with 32GB RAM.
The size is huge and now even getting much with some worse with 61mp A7r IV. I'd love to use Lr as it generates Adobe DNG raw file right in software but it is so slow in my outdated iMac 5K. In reality it only can deal with a few RAWs and if photos are more than 5 or 6 it hung forever.

I am waiting future iMac 8K and I will choose max configuration - 64GB RAM, NvME SSD, fastest processor then.

pano that stitched around 40 shots, only 1/6 actual size. EF 70-200L/4.0 IS on 5D2
pano that stitched around 40 shots, only 1/6 actual size. EF 70-200L/4.0 IS on 5D2

Could not wait next time I mount 135 GM on A7r IV for such pano photo :-)
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Yup, if you need a big file resolution is king. At the National Gallery of Art I shoot with a PhaseOne iXG100. It's a 100mp medium format camera. One 16 bit tiff out of that thing is about 575MP. Pixel dimensions are 11608 x 8708. And when I shoot works on paper (that's my studio there) larger than roughly 16x20 inches I'll shoot it in 4 sections totalling about a one gig file. We shoot them that big for any future needs like wall sized panels or to be plastered on the side of a bus. But also for conservation. Anyway, you're right, if you need large output, resolution is the only way to go.

Oh, and BTW they've come out with a 150mp version of it and I'll be getting on of those soon or whenever we're allowed to go back to work
Have you seen the video Jody Dole made for Hasselblad about photographing art?

 
Oh, I thought that is where you meant....But, yea, that is far north from this shot location.

I am usually quite happy to meet people visiting Las Vegas who make the effort to explore something other than the casinos on the Strip. Unless they are leaving trash or painting graffiti on the rocks.



This is a similar or exact area to where you posted.
This is a similar or exact area to where you posted.



This is looking at the town of Calico under the watchful eye of Turtlehead Peak.
This is looking at the town of Calico under the watchful eye of Turtlehead Peak.



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Yup, if you need a big file resolution is king. At the National Gallery of Art I shoot with a PhaseOne iXG100. It's a 100mp medium format camera. One 16 bit tiff out of that thing is about 575MP. Pixel dimensions are 11608 x 8708. And when I shoot works on paper (that's my studio there) larger than roughly 16x20 inches I'll shoot it in 4 sections totalling about a one gig file. We shoot them that big for any future needs like wall sized panels or to be plastered on the side of a bus. But also for conservation. Anyway, you're right, if you need large output, resolution is the only way to go.

Oh, and BTW they've come out with a 150mp version of it and I'll be getting on of those soon or whenever we're allowed to go back to work
Have you seen the video Jody Dole made for Hasselblad about photographing art?

I hadn't till just now. Thanks for the link. I looks like he and I do just about the same thing. Though I rarely do sculpture as we have a sculpture photographer. At the NGA we have four full time photographers in four separate studios. Paintings, sculpture, small works on paper and my studio, large works on paper. The paper studios also do photographs, pastels, textiles, plates, plackets, reliefs and anything that can't go upright on an easel.
 
I also love stitching photos, used to stitch lots, as high as around 40~50 photos in one pano. Then stitched in PTGui Pro. But it only can export to TIFF file.
That is incorrect. I also use PT Gui Pro and use .PSB (Photoshop Large) as my output format. My panoramic workflow starts with a Sony A7R IV, or Nikon Z7 and I use either Capture One Pro 20 or Lightroom CC Classic depending on the subject and preferred color rendering. I then export 16-bit per channel TIFFs in ProPhoto RGB. After the composite is made in PTGui Pro, and this can be made of from up to 48 images, I export it as a layered .psb file, staying in 16-bit ProPhoto RGB, and finish the project ( retouching any glitches where subjects were moving where the frames overlap, then flattening and doing a final crop, etc.) in Photoshop CC 2020
What I meant not technically only can export to one format TIFF and aware this format as well. But I used to Lr so for Lr's perspectively it only can use TIFF from PTGui Pro directly not PSB file.
My computer is a late 2014 5K Retina iMac with 32GB RAM.
Slightly better than my iMac 5K. But Lr certainly struggle with more than 5 or 6 no mention 40 RAW files. It hung forever in my case or still likely failed after hours. It's nice to use Lr directly as it generates Adobe DNG raw format directly inside Lr.
The size is huge and now even getting much with some worse with 61mp A7r IV. I'd love to use Lr as it generates Adobe DNG raw file right in software but it is so slow in my outdated iMac 5K. In reality it only can deal with a few RAWs and if photos are more than 5 or 6 it hung forever.

I am waiting future iMac 8K and I will choose max configuration - 64GB RAM, NvME SSD, fastest processor then.

pano that stitched around 40 shots, only 1/6 actual size. EF 70-200L/4.0 IS on 5D2
pano that stitched around 40 shots, only 1/6 actual size. EF 70-200L/4.0 IS on 5D2

Could not wait next time I mount 135 GM on A7r IV for such pano photo :-)
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Yup, if you need a big file resolution is king. At the National Gallery of Art I shoot with a PhaseOne iXG100. It's a 100mp medium format camera. One 16 bit tiff out of that thing is about 575MP. Pixel dimensions are 11608 x 8708. And when I shoot works on paper (that's my studio there) larger than roughly 16x20 inches I'll shoot it in 4 sections totalling about a one gig file. We shoot them that big for any future needs like wall sized panels or to be plastered on the side of a bus. But also for conservation. Anyway, you're right, if you need large output, resolution is the only way to go.

Oh, and BTW they've come out with a 150mp version of it and I'll be getting on of those soon or whenever we're allowed to go back to work
DUDE! I cannot even image managing those 16bit files.....and, no doubt that PhaseOne back is madd sick as far as a clean file. You must have a great sense of satisfaction seeing your work hung and have it look so great from 3' away to 30' away.


Since you asked here is one from the Phase One IQ3 100 with original plus, 1:1 and 3:1 crops. I also enjoy my Sony gear!!



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It really is a conundrum. Posting tight crops of high resolution files is good.....but, the true essence of what an impact a printed high resolution image does is when it is printed and you can stand back at 10 feet+ and say HOLY CRAP. lol

I have great computer monitors but the true DNA of a 100MP+ back capture could for the untrained eye look almost worse than an IPHONE photo on a monitor.

I would have no idea what the percentage is but I suspect less than 25% of people around here actually print their creative work. Sometimes, in my experience a large format print takes on whole new life versus staring at it on a computer screen.
 
Yup, if you need a big file resolution is king. At the National Gallery of Art I shoot with a PhaseOne iXG100. It's a 100mp medium format camera. One 16 bit tiff out of that thing is about 575MP. Pixel dimensions are 11608 x 8708. And when I shoot works on paper (that's my studio there) larger than roughly 16x20 inches I'll shoot it in 4 sections totalling about a one gig file. We shoot them that big for any future needs like wall sized panels or to be plastered on the side of a bus. But also for conservation. Anyway, you're right, if you need large output, resolution is the only way to go.

Oh, and BTW they've come out with a 150mp version of it and I'll be getting on of those soon or whenever we're allowed to go back to work
DUDE! I cannot even image managing those 16bit files.....and, no doubt that PhaseOne back is madd sick as far as a clean file. You must have a great sense of satisfaction seeing your work hung and have it look so great from 3' away to 30' away.
Since you asked here is one from the Phase One IQ3 100 with original plus, 1:1 and 3:1 crops. I also enjoy my Sony gear!!

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Nice. Those big sensors are really impressive.

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I realize 90% of people purchasing "high resolution" DSLR cameras mostly buy them because it sounds good and more pixels is better, right? I prefer to be able to design "poster" prints that are usually 60" x 40" but, per my design below, I will be producing this to a size of 8 foot x 3 foot. I will have an optional archival-print quality available but mostly I produce stuff like this and sell to business owners looking to decorate their local offices with a professional print but on more economical "poster" paper.

The Sony A7RIV really produces clean files and combined with a good piece of glass the creative options are endless. Most 4/3'rds cameras can easily product 18" x 24" poster prints with reasonable resolution but once you get to 3' and beyond the extra file size translates to ROI value.

This mockup was produced from 4 vertically shot RAW files in Lightroom and stitched together producing a 550+megabyte file which then I brought into my InDesign layout and export to PDF for the printer.

I share this because there might be a very small percentage of people here that actually do something with their photos besides talking about gear and hopefully it gives them some insight to what they can do creatively.

In regards to the composition - We rarely get clouds in the Las Vegas valley due to a static high pressure system until the late summer when monsoon season kicks in. I will try a sunset version of this perspective but then you lose the detail of the buildings which is what this is really about. Also, IMHO, the westside looking at the Strip is better than the eastside from a buildings standpoint.

I doubt my EXIF is in this eventual file but it was shot with a Sony A7RIV and the 70-300mm lens.

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If you're stitching, it wouldn't be much harder to use a Micro Four Thirds camera and just shoot two rows. I've used MFT cameras to make single-row stitched panos that can be printed up to 23' wide.

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If you're stitching, it wouldn't be much harder to use a Micro Four Thirds camera and just shoot two rows. I've used MFT cameras to make single-row stitched panos that can be printed up to 23' wide.
True, except with these clouds, every "second" counts to minimize time spent as the subject is changing. Sure, that can be fixed in POST, but alot more work.

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Not to hijack the thread with Las Vegas pics but have you been here?

This is on Lake Mead Blvd in the Sunrise Mountain Natural Area. On Google Maps, it's called the Las Vegas Skyline View. This is on the northeast side of LV.

This is on Lake Mead Blvd in the Sunrise Mountain Natural Area. On Google Maps, it's called the Las Vegas Skyline View. This is on the northeast side of LV.

Next time I am in Las Vegas, I'll try your spot. I think it's in the general vicinity of the Southwest Ridge Mountain Bike Trail?

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