Anyone ever experience an SD card reading slow?

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Here's the card i have had in my Sony RX10 iv.

About 2 weeks ago, i noticed the recall after taking shots to take 2-3 seconds for viewing. The time was almost instant before. Even when i'm using a dongle to view images on my smartphone.....it takes seconds before all the photos details appear.

Any ideas?? Thx!



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It's the dongle, not the SD. Not all SD, etc. chip adapter dongles are created equally.
 
I never had a memory card failure in my life, so the first suspect would be the camera.

To eliminate the uncertainty, you simply have to check the write/read speed of the card with a free program, like usb flash benchmark:

https://www.raymond.cc/blog/download/did/1923/

Make sure the card terminals are clean and that you have a reliable reader. Run the test a couple of times. If the read/write speeds don't match with the card class, which for uhs iii are around 30mbs minimum write speed and 50-80 mbs for read speed, you have a defective memory card.

But i don't think there's anything wrong with it. I think the camera is responsible for getting slower during playback. But that's a guess, not a fact.

You can also try another memory card to verify the camera performance.
 
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Have you tried to format the card in camera, see if performance possibly gets back to normal afterwards?

Didier
 
Some possibilities:

1. If you've used the card for a long time without formatting, the free space may have got fragmented. This causes read/write speed to reduce.
Solution: reformat the card.

2. Try cleaning the copper contacts. Use of a pencil eraser is recommended.

3. If the above do not solve the problem, the card could be partly damaged. This is rare but not unknown. Reformat the card in a laptop/PC or another camera.

4. If the card works fine in another camera, the RX10 iv is damaged.

Good luck!

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Here's the card i have had in my Sony RX10 iv.

About 2 weeks ago, i noticed the recall after taking shots to take 2-3 seconds for viewing. The time was almost instant before. Even when i'm using a dongle to view images on my smartphone.....it takes seconds before all the photos details appear.

Any ideas?? Thx!

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I do believe its the card. I'll have to offload the images and reformat it in the camera.

Another question.......has anyone had good luck using micro SD cards in an adapter in the RX10iv ?

Thx!
 
I do believe its the card. I'll have to offload the images and reformat it in the camera.

Another question.......has anyone had good luck using micro SD cards in an adapter in the RX10iv ?

Thx!
I have successfully used micro SD cards, but it's not my first choice for the way to record images. The additional set of contacts is simply another potential point of failure. It provides no benefit, and only a possible catastrophe.
 
Some possibilities:

1. If you've used the card for a long time without formatting, the free space may have got fragmented. This causes read/write speed to reduce.
Solution: reformat the card.
Due to the nature of solid state memory, "fragmentation" has little to no impact on SD cards read/write performance. It doesn't matter if the next block of data is sequential or not, every block has the same access time. Also, due to wear leveling and multiple memory banks, data is almost always fragmented.

Once the capacity of a SD card has been written, it must start performing what's known as "Garbage Collection" to free up blocks. This remains true even if the files have been deleted or a conventional fast format has been done. Garbage Collection only degrades write performance and has no impact on read speed. All modern SSD uses a process called "Trim" to avoid this issue. But, SD cards don't use Trim. The only way to restore original out of the box write performance is to reset all the memory blocks. Canon cameras offer a low level format option that will do this as can the SD Card Association format utility. A normal format simply resets the FAT data.

If read speed of a card suddenly degrades, it could signal some sort of failure. Read errors are a common occurrence and are usually immediately corrected. But if the correction code is unable to fix the error, the controller will perform multiple reads until it's valid. If the read errors reach some threshold, the data is moved to another block and the failing block is marked as bad. It's all supposed happen in the background. But sometimes it becomes bad enough to where the user notices performance issues.

Performing a in-camera format won't hurt anything. But, I'd suggest trying another card. If that fixes the problem, consider retiring the problematic card.

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I missed the part about being slow in the camera. If it's slow there, even after formatting, assume it's just about toast. SD's are, after all, an expendable item. :)
 
Some possibilities:

1. If you've used the card for a long time without formatting, the free space may have got fragmented. This causes read/write speed to reduce.
Solution: reformat the card.
Due to the nature of solid state memory, "fragmentation" has little to no impact on SD cards read/write performance. It doesn't matter if the next block of data is sequential or not, every block has the same access time. Also, due to wear leveling and multiple memory banks, data is almost always fragmented.

Once the capacity of a SD card has been written, it must start performing what's known as "Garbage Collection" to free up blocks. This remains true even if the files have been deleted or a conventional fast format has been done. Garbage Collection only degrades write performance and has no impact on read speed. All modern SSD uses a process called "Trim" to avoid this issue. But, SD cards don't use Trim. The only way to restore original out of the box write performance is to reset all the memory blocks. Canon cameras offer a low level format option that will do this as can the SD Card Association format utility. A normal format simply resets the FAT data.

If read speed of a card suddenly degrades, it could signal some sort of failure. Read errors are a common occurrence and are usually immediately corrected. But if the correction code is unable to fix the error, the controller will perform multiple reads until it's valid. If the read errors reach some threshold, the data is moved to another block and the failing block is marked as bad. It's all supposed happen in the background. But sometimes it becomes bad enough to where the user notices performance issues.

Performing a in-camera format won't hurt anything. But, I'd suggest trying another card. If that fixes the problem, consider retiring the problematic card.
Phil: Thanks for the interesting technical details!
 
Hi,

what caught my attention is the "94MB/s" on the card. Looks strange to me because if I'm not mistaken I'm remembering only "95MB/s". A counterfeit card? This might indicate a card failure of some sort.
As tested....


Worth noting the different performance in various cameras!

Fairly strange number all the same? !!

Peter

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Pictures...
 
As tested....

https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/reviews/sd-cards/sony-32gb-sdhc-memory-card/

Worth noting the different performance in various cameras!

Fairly strange number all the same? !!
Not exactly the same card. Besides the capacity differences the OP's version is U3 rated. But, that may be just a difference in labeling. Newer versions of their U3 cards have a different style label and show a 95MB/s max read speed.

It's not unusual for different cameras to produce a spread of write speeds with the same card. The Canon 80D runs a nicely optimized SDR104 bus. The D500 has a UHS-II slot, but can be a little fussy with some brands of SD cards. That just comes down to slight timing differences between the camera's bus and the card's controller. Most of the top performing cameras are using a SD104 bus. It's pretty obvious which ones are running the slower SDR50 bus.

The Sony RX10M4 is one of the few RX cameras using the SDR104 bus. But, tests done by others indicates it's somewhat throttled.
 
I own Sony cameras, so every SD Card reads slowly (or at least more slowly than UHS-1 cards with other vendors). :-D
 
Thanks for the tips.....i reformatted the card in camera and the card is lightening fast again
 
something is wrong, hopefully re-format in camera will solve it.

I use u3 sandisk extreme micro xc-1 primarily for continuous shooting, writing from buffer to card to get back to shooting again, i.e. kids soccer ...

Very important with new models using 24fps. my rx100m6, I use 10, sometimes 3. My Oly does 7fps, sometimes, even fast from buffer to card, that is too many to edit, I preferred rx100m1 4fps.

I use micro sd in sd adapters for all my cameras.

1. put card in my phone's micro sd slot, no need to transfer using wifi which I find iffy.

2. use micro slot in tablets

3. I drowned a Sony WX10 camera in the ocean, salt water, (camera so small and light I forgot it was in my bathing suit pocket).

Adapter was ruined, the micro card was fine, put in different adapter, into laptop, everything there, whew. Dumb luck, but luck I'm sticking with.

It's another joint in the wire, mildly risky, but never a problem for many years, and no speed difference with or without.

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Elliott
 
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I have experienced the same problem with 64GB cards in the RX10 IV. The preview slows down noticeably when the card gets more than half filled with images. I suspect it has something to do with how the file table getting filled in the exfat file system.
 

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