Best beginner film camera and film

Now comes the color round.

Color films don't have very pronounced film grains, unless you go to high ISO territory, but I haven't gotten around to shoot Superia X-Tra 1600 yet. I believe Fuji discontinued it, so I don't know.... Fortunately Kodak makes one heck of a good high ISO color film. If I ever shoot high ISO Kodak Portra 800 is my top choice, but it's also very expensive so I don't shoot it that much. It is a very warm film if you don't shoot it as rated. I think I shot this one as least two stops overexposed because I forgot to turn that ISO rating dial in my camera when I started shooting. As you see it's an extremely warm film when it's overexposed and lighting is very diffused as it usually is in downtown San Francisco. Very fine grain considering this is a high ISO film.

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San Francisco Cable Car Waiting at Powell Street Turn Around (Kodak Portra 800)

Now here is one of the finest 35mm films Kodak has ever made. The new emulation of Portra 400 is very luxurious looking. It makes ruins in Sutro Baths looks so flesh-like. In fact, if I were a portrait photographer, I'd say this is THE FILM. But my Leica wielding friend suggests it is also very excellent for landscape. I cannot say he's wrong, but this one was shot with Olympus 35 SP. As the story goes, that camera made Leica so nervous, Leica made M5 to combat it, only to meet Olympus M-1 in Photokina 1971. Leica M5 was thus, dead before it was available on the market. Leica sued Olympus for using M-1 as model number, because Leica claimed it's their trademark, so Olympus M-1 had to change its name to OM-1, and the rest is history.


Red Bricks by Sutro Baths #1 (Kodak Portra 400)

For those who are curious about Olympus 35 SP, it is a fully mechanical camera (if you thought Olympus OM-1 was a fully mechanical camera, read on). It only uses (now illegal) mercury battery to meter, but shutter and apertures are all controlled by springs and gears. It makes a very funky spring-y noise when you click that shutter, which gave me unwanted attention one time when I was shooting with it in a quiet museum. It looks more like m4/3 version of Olympus PEN-F than PEN-F's name sake. However, Olympus 35 SP is a fixed lens camera, akin to Fuji 100 series. It uses a 42mm f/1.7 lens which IMO is a much more useful focal length than the 35mm (equivalent) lens which Fuji uses. The lens is very sharp but you cannot change lenses. Since it's full of springs and gears, it's a heavy brick-like camera (and shapes like one).

It has both aperture and shutter dial on the lens next to one another, so you could twist both of them together to give equivalent exposure. It has a cutout window shows exposure rating. Unsurprisingly, "16" means Sunny 16. If the exposure meter in rangefinder (yes, it's a real rangefinder, not a "rangefinder style camera") says 15, then you turn the aperture and shutter speed in a combination that will show 15 in the cutout window. 15 by the way, means the subject you're shooting is one exposure darker than Sunny 16, which in our modern camera system, you'd turn +1 in exposure compensation, so it's properly exposed (15+1=16). It's a very clumsy metering system, but if you master it, you can calculate Sunny 16 rules in your head. Most people don't want to do slide rule (huh? "what's a slide rule ?") when shooting photos, which is why now we have exposure compensation dial to do +1 or -2, etc. So no, it's not a beginner's camera. OTOH, if your meter died or out of battery, and it's sunny outside, all you do is turn the aperture and shutter in such combination so the cutout windows says 16, and you would get a well-exposed photo. Cloudy day would be 14, by the way, if I remember it correctly (and that's +2 in our modern system).

So why a clumsy camera beat Leica M4 (which made Leica starting to do R&D for M5 only to meet its death match, Olympus OM-1?)? Well for starter, it's a cheap camera that can do both spot metering and center average metering. It may come across as very strange to modern photographers, but having spot meter, center average meter, PLUS matrix meter weren't always the norm in every camera. The fact the expensive Leica M4 couldn't do it tells you a lot how far the camera automation has come. BTW, yes, Olympus 35 SP can fire a flash, and it's controlled by a spring winder.



Now the next photo was shot with (*drum rolls*) Fuji Superia Reala. Superia Reala was 35mm version of Reala. It is not a portrait film, unlike Kodak Portra. It's less Caucasian/Asian flesh friendly and more teal/cool color. It's medium contrast and punchy color if pushed. This was shot with diffused light so it's more pastel like Kodak Portra 160 (though Portra 160 is distinctively warmer and sharp).


Some Pink Flowers (Superia Reala)



This one is shot with Kodak Ektar 100 (the post-2008 scan-friendly Ektar). I am not sure this is the best example of Ektar. Ektar isn't the easiest film to shoot, but if done right, can fool many people as if it were shot with a digital camera. However it is very easy to scan. I gave up on scanning my photos now, but when I was still doing that, even an amateur scanner can produce good result. If underexposed, Ektar can show a very distinct cyan color cast, which you may or may not like that "Instagram" cross-process like color. Ironically, if you like the color white, Ektar can produce some of the most crisp and beautiful white I've ever captured on film. Ektar is well-known to be the finest grained negative film ever. If you like grain this is not it. Most of the time you can't even see it.

My note says this was shot with Olympus 35 ECR. It's a P&S camera in the Olympus 35 series (flagship cameras being 35 SP and 35 RD). This particular copy was rescued from a flea market and I soldiered the acid-corroded wired back to the battery compartment and I even shot a roll of Fuji Velvia 100 with it (though don't try this at home, as this is an auto everything camera, you have to use ISO dial in place of exposure compensation to control your lighting). This funny little camera actually got me started shooting film again, before I became bloated with GAS.... I rarely shoot with it now, but this camera is literally a point and shoot (but you have to manual focus) and you can get reasonable good result with most negative films. It does require some work to get it going as this unlike 35 SP, cannot work AT ALL without batteries. There was a website telling you how to get it to work with LR44 batteries and some aluminum foil, but I can't find it anymore.


Wharf Hydrant #5 (Kodak Ektar)



If you like grains, higher speed Superia X-Tras are good. A matter of opinion of course. Very punchy film. Perfect for travel because you can even get them at Walgreens or Target as a value pack of 3 rolls or more. Doesn't this photo shout "Family Trip 1992?" Very easy film to shoot. Just use them as inexpensive way to get a feel of your new camera.


Marin Ferry (Fuji Superia Xtra 400)



Last is another low-maintenance film, Kodak Gold 200. Slightly slower film means smoother color and grains. Kodak Gold is a consumer film well known for its warm to the point of looking like orange color (hence the name Gold). It has a nostalgic look to it. I personally prefer ISO 200 over ISO 400, but I am a slower film shooter. It's up to you. It's a great film if you like wandering around the street and shoot random finds. Not a lot of grains.


Citizen Chain (Kodak Gold 200)
 
Ok, I'll admit I'm curious. Film has a certain allure in our digital age. However, as someone of the digital era, I don't know where to begin.

Is there a widely agreed upon beginner film camera/film that you can recommend--you know, not for primary shooting, but maybe over time on weekends to play around with creating snaps, not masterpieces by any means.

Thanks!
I'd get a Nikon F80/N80 which will be very familiar to a digital camera user and can be had on ebay for next to nothing.

Don't buy cheap film, get something like Ektar and have it processed by a company that offers proper scanning services - it will not be cheap, but if you economise on the scanning you will get disappointing results and wonder what all the fuss is about.
 
I'd second the Davinator's comment. Why not get the cheapest working slr you can find, don't fret over brand names, and get some experience with this first. At some point you will come to realise what you want in a camera and, at this point, you will be better positioned to decide which cameras fulfills your needs.

This experience will also help you determine what speed film you prefer. Tri-X if you want some more speed, or something such as Ilford's FP4+, an excellent all-purpose film for good lighting.
 
Yes, you will receive a lot of different answers but basically it depends on what you want and what your budget will cover.

If you want a point and shoot camera there are loads to choose from. Some are very expensive due to their collector value. Some are known to have chancy electronics that can die at any moment. It pays to do your homework in this arena. As a possible beginner's point and shoot I would recommend looking into something on the line of a Canon Sureshot.

If you are looking for a camera where you can learn how to manage aperture opening and shutter speed and experience how various films will work with it, I recommend a Konica TC-X.

Small

Inexpensive

Easily available

Lightweight (plastic body)

Totally mechanical (except for the light meter)

Uses Konica Hexanon lenses that are well built, optically high quality, readily available and generally inexpensive.

--

Steve
Just an Armadillo on the shoulder of the information superhighway.
 
Forget manual cameras! A modern autofocus SLR is the way to go for a beginner. You will be able to shoot manually later if you want to. Don't buy a cheap entry level camera or an expensive flagship one. Get something in the middle. It must have a big bright viewfinder and control layout that is comfortable for you.

Start with lenses. Determine which focal lengths and apertures you want, prime or zoom, and then choose an appropriate system.

If you like grain you will be disappointed with Ektar 100 – it's too smooth, almost digital-like. I recommend Kodak Gold 200 or Ultramax 400. It's basically the same emulsion but with one stop difference. Beautiful colour palette and nice grain. You can see some samples in my photostream: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alex_virt/albums/72157687167906030
 
Funny you should ask this, because KosmoFoto just posted my review of what I think is one of the best beginner SLRs: The Ricoh KR-10.

https://kosmofoto.com/2020/03/ricoh-kr-10-review/

Reason I like it in a nutshell: Compatible with Pentax K lenses, comprehensive feature set (shutter speed 4-1/1000, film speed 12-3200, match-needle meter, aperture-priority automatic mode), and dirt cheap. The Rikkonen lenses are fine, or pair it with the ubiquitous SMC Pentax 50/1.7 (around $35) and you're off to the races.

It's not the most refined camera, but it does the job nicely and will allow you to figure out if film photography is for you -- and if it is, you can invest in an nicer camera (though you really won't need to).

BTW, I'd stick to the KR-10, not the KR-10 Super (a different and more electronic camera) or the KR-5 (limited feature set).

Be wary of cameras that have nostalgia-pumped prices, like the Canon AE-1, Pentax K1000, and Nikon FM. Great cameras, don't get me wrong, but there are better bargains out there. Film cameras aren't like digitals where the hardware limits your ability to get a good picture -- they're just boxes that capture light. Film and lens have a much bigger effect on image quality.

Newer autofocus electronic cameras that were really expensive in The Day (Nikon N8008S, Minolta 7xi) can be real bargains, but I would avoid those for starers. Their interfaces (I think) are too digital-like and make it hard to learn how camera, film and light interact. Better to start with something pre-1985 with the ability to shoot in full manual mode. I have a Nikon N8008 and while I marvel that I bought it so cheap, I still can't decide if I like it.

Film? I'm a B&W guy myself and encourage everyone to try home development -- it's not rocket science, the investment to get started is reasonable and the per-roll costs are a couple of bucks.

If that's your thing, you can't go wrong with the old standards (Kodak Tri-X, Ilford FP4+ and HP5+) and if you find you like them you can save $$ by buying 100' and rolling your own in a dark bag or with a bulk loader. That's what I do.

I've tried one roll of Fomapan and rather liked it -- grainy, sure, but I thought it looked nice (this despite accidentally over-developing it!) and at $5 a roll from Freestyle it's a great way to get started.

One thing I have found is not to take anyone's word on what film is good (not even mine). Not everyone who criticizes shoots or develops properly. Try everything and see what you like.

Good luck and tell us what you decide on!

Aaron
 
Agree with the notion of getting an AF camera, you can then choose either. I am still using a Nikon F601/6006, bought from new 30 odd years ago and still going strong. Fantastic camera and now about $30, and includes a pop-up flash.

The Series E Nikon manual lenses are very cheap and mostly good- the 50/1.8 is a fabulous little lens except into sun. The 70-210/4+ AF-D is a beautiful portrait lens, about $100.

Unless you want to process your own Bnw, use a C41 develop & scan service. The Fuji Superia or Portra might be of interest, but just try it.
 
Alex, your Flickr albums look fantastic. The colors are not distorted (as it frequently happens when people post online) and also not too "digital" (as it happens when people use a digital camera + Lightroom plugins that destroy the native emulsion-specific color response).

How do you digitize?
 
Alex, your Flickr albums look fantastic. The colors are not distorted (as it frequently happens when people post online) and also not too "digital" (as it happens when people use a digital camera + Lightroom plugins that destroy the native emulsion-specific color response).

How do you digitize?
Thank you, Steven! I give my films for development and scanning to a lab that uses the Noritsu HS1800 scanner. Very expensive, but the quality of 30 MP scans is amazing! I almost never adjust colours, they are good as is.
 
Alex, your Flickr albums look fantastic. The colors are not distorted (as it frequently happens when people post online) and also not too "digital" (as it happens when people use a digital camera + Lightroom plugins that destroy the native emulsion-specific color response).

How do you digitize?
Accurate observation - I've digitised a lot of older film (with Coolscan IV with 6 good Mp) as well current scanning services at 24Mp. I do virtually nothing with the rendition or colors whatsoever unless there has been some kind of damage - fortunately Kodachrome even from 70 odd years ago has survived pretty well, though some other emulsions have not.

Anyway, one of the things is that my limited audience actually prefers the images taken with film over some of the higher resolution/sharper digital images. I think this is specifically because people are unconsciously comfortable with the film idiom to this day- perhaps because movies still provide that. If you were to post-process too much, then the "look" or idiom would be destroyed. In a way, that look is all over the place in digital because you have too many options, and the style isn't very clear.
 
Ok, I'll admit I'm curious. Film has a certain allure in our digital age. However, as someone of the digital era, I don't know where to begin.

Is there a widely agreed upon beginner film camera/film that you can recommend--you know, not for primary shooting, but maybe over time on weekends to play around with creating snaps, not masterpieces by any means.

Thanks!
One thing to keep in mind is that in today’s market, almost all the cameras that regularly appear on ‘best beginners’ lists are now significantly overpriced for what they offer (K1000 and AE1 spring to mind). Do some research and you’ll find better options cheaper, often from the same brand ;)
 
Ok, I'll admit I'm curious. Film has a certain allure in our digital age. However, as someone of the digital era, I don't know where to begin.

Is there a widely agreed upon beginner film camera/film that you can recommend--you know, not for primary shooting, but maybe over time on weekends to play around with creating snaps, not masterpieces by any means.

Thanks!
If you have a DSLR then getting a matching film SLR saves on lenses, otherwise I'd say just look for something reasonably cheap that is working.
 
Anyway, one of the things is that my limited audience actually prefers the images taken with film over some of the higher resolution/sharper digital images. I think this is specifically because people are unconsciously comfortable with the film idiom to this day- perhaps because movies still provide that.
That's because films were created not only by engineers but by specialists who understood human psychology of perception of colours and tones. Film colour science has been perfected for decades. Fuji used some of that know-how in their digital cameras. It's one of the reasons they are so popular.
 
Anyway, one of the things is that my limited audience actually prefers the images taken with film over some of the higher resolution/sharper digital images.
Sharpness and resolution are overrated and in some cases (portrait) even harmful. Look at these modern 50-100 MP portraits – yikes!
 
Anyway, one of the things is that my limited audience actually prefers the images taken with film over some of the higher resolution/sharper digital images.
Sharpness and resolution are overrated and in some cases (portrait) even harmful. Look at these modern 50-100 MP portraits – yikes!
I agree. Sharpness does have a rightful place, but overkill for portraits. I wonder if those using such high res cameras for portraits have never heard of a Duto filter, or the derivatives thereof?
 
I started out half a year ago with a Pentax MX and I couldn't have wished for a better entry into film photography. It was quite affordable, as are the lenses. Fully manual, tiny size, great viewfinder and light meter, takes modern batteries.
 
Anyway, one of the things is that my limited audience actually prefers the images taken with film over some of the higher resolution/sharper digital images.
Sharpness and resolution are overrated and in some cases (portrait) even harmful. Look at these modern 50-100 MP portraits – yikes!
I agree. Sharpness does have a rightful place, but overkill for portraits. I wonder if those using such high res cameras for portraits have never heard of a Duto filter, or the derivatives thereof?
Large aperture, zero sharpness and negative clarity usually do the job.
 
Anyway, one of the things is that my limited audience actually prefers the images taken with film over some of the higher resolution/sharper digital images.
Sharpness and resolution are overrated and in some cases (portrait) even harmful. Look at these modern 50-100 MP portraits – yikes!
Yes, there comes a time when seeing the demodex mites on peoples' eyelashes really isn't enticing....!
 
You’re going to get as many different opinions as there are members of this forum.

Nikon EM, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 lens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_EM

Tri-X (B&W) 400

Fuji Acros 100 B&W film

Kodak Ektar 100 color negative film

Fuji Velvia 50 color slide film

Rich
Rich, thanks for your genuinely helpful answer. That all looks very interesting. I imagine they each have their strengths.

For e.g., is one of them better than others for low-light vs. brighter times of the day? Or should I get just one and stick with it for all shooting?
Tri-X is a fast film best in low light situations or very fast shutter speeds. It is THE workhorse film of the film era. It is the sharpest, tightest -grained fast film in the industry. It used to be a coarse-grained film but has evolved to be a medium to fine grain now. It is a beautiful film to use in photojournalism, reportage, editorial work. It has character, superb quality. There is no better fast B&W film. It is very tolerant of both over and under exposure. It simply has no equal. Not even close.

Acros is a bitingly sharp fine-grained film with brilliant contrast. At ISO 100 it is for well lit situations and studio lighting situations. But it also is for very long exposures in low light as it has almost no reciprocity failure out to 2 minutes exposure. All other films show reciprocity failure starting at at a few seconds. It must be exposed accurately for best results.

Ektra at ISO 100 is a great, highly saturated color negative film that rivals the image quality of transparency films for sharpness and color depth. That was unheard of before the digital era. It’s the best color negative film Kodak has ever made.

Kodak Portra at 400 ISO and Fuji 400h are great higher speed color negative films.

All color negative films are incredibly tolerant of over exposure. It is almost impossible to give them too much. Under exposure is their Achilles Heel.

Kodachrome no longer exists. The greatest loss to the digital revolution. The world is less without it. Velvia is the closest we now have and as an E6 film it gives no ground at all. Velvia 50 is a gorgeous film. Not Velvia 100. When it was introduced in the 1980s it caught Kodak asleep at the switch and it ate Ektrachrome’s lunch. Kodak kind of recovered and improved Ektachrome which had been the previous E6 King. But it never really caught Velvia.

Velvia needs good light and exposure is critical. Over exposure kills it. It has incredible saturation but contrast can get out of control. Used correctly, no color film is it’s equal for sharpness, color intensity.
Awesome, thank you, Rich. I copied that and put it in a word doc for safe-keeping to refer to later along my journey. :-)

It's crazy how these days, we talk about Canon color or Sony color etc, but film has so many more characters, each with their quirks.

Also, thank you everyone else. You've all given me so much to think about...and learn from.
 
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LOL.

I bought one after reading the article.

$47.00 with 35 - 70 lens

It should be a good way to try film again. It's been 30 years.
 

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