ESPON just announced a replacement for EPSON SureColor P800

[rio_c]

P800 buyers be aware.

EPSON just announced SC-PX1VL, a replacement for a popular EPSON P800 (SC-PX3V) printer, in Japan:

https://www.epson.jp/products/pro/scpx1vl/

The new printer is 70% smaller and uses newly developed UltraChrome K3X ink. It has new deep blue ink, which improves the reproduction of blue & violet spectrum. Photo black & met black no longer require swapping. SC-PX1VL will start shipping on May 28th, 2020.

 

[NAwlins Contrarian]

P800 buyers be aware.

EPSON just announced SC-PX1VL, a replacement for a popular EPSON P800 (SC-PX3V) printer, in Japan:

https://www.epson.jp/products/pro/scpx1vl/

The new printer is 70% smaller and uses newly developed UltraChrome K3X ink. It has new deep blue ink, which improves the reproduction of blue & violet spectrum. Photo black & met black no longer require swapping. SC-PX1VL will start shipping on May 28th, 2020.

From what I can tell with Google Translate of the Epson.jp pages, apparently:

* it uses 10 inks in 9 colors, the existing CcMmYKpKmGg plus what appears to be not really blue but the violet used in the existing commercial editions of the P5000, P7000, and P9000 and the new P7570 and P9570;

* "All inks, including photo black and matte black, can be used seamlessly without switching operation;" and

* the roll-feed capability looks like a robust / more capable, and therefore likely more expensive, unit than the prior smaller Epson desktop printers' roll-feed units.

 

[ColourPhil]

Must be about due for a replacement.

Details rather sketchy, and in Japanese!

Doesn't really look like 70% of the size in that diagram. Total volume maybe?

Strange model number.

Let's hope they haven't skimped on ink cart size.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[dtrph]

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P800 buyers be aware.

EPSON just announced SC-PX1VL, a replacement for a popular EPSON P800 (SC-PX3V) printer, in Japan:

https://www.epson.jp/products/pro/scpx1vl/

The new printer is 70% smaller and uses newly developed UltraChrome K3X ink. It has new deep blue ink, which improves the reproduction of blue & violet spectrum. Photo black & met black no longer require swapping. SC-PX1VL will start shipping on May 28th, 2020.

Thanks for the post, interesting roll handling...

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dancph

 

[dtrph]

Can't really tell the size of the carts but they look like 80ml

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dancph

 

[Howard Moftich]

just from that photo I'd say the carts do not appear as tall. Maybe they are deeper. Anyway, we'll see!

 

[Dan W]

Thanks for sharing. The pics look like CAD renderings meaning they don't have a working copy yet maybe? IDK but I bet this is a way out yet. Who know tho...

 

[Adam2]

P800 buyers be aware.

EPSON just announced SC-PX1VL, a replacement for a popular EPSON P800 (SC-PX3V) printer, in Japan:

https://www.epson.jp/products/pro/scpx1vl/

The new printer is 70% smaller and uses newly developed UltraChrome K3X ink. It has new deep blue ink, which improves the reproduction of blue & violet spectrum. Photo black & met black no longer require swapping. SC-PX1VL will start shipping on May 28th, 2020.

Huge! Sign me up.

 

[NAwlins Contrarian]

P800 buyers be aware.

EPSON just announced SC-PX1VL, a replacement for a popular EPSON P800 (SC-PX3V) printer, in Japan:

https://www.epson.jp/products/pro/scpx1vl/

The new printer is 70% smaller and uses newly developed UltraChrome K3X ink. It has new deep blue ink, which improves the reproduction of blue & violet spectrum. Photo black & met black no longer require swapping. SC-PX1VL will start shipping on May 28th, 2020.

Epson also announced what appears to be a P600 replacement, the in Japan called the SC-PX1V. Some additional points I was able to glean, even though the Google Translate of the Epson pages does not seem to be working now (it worked earlier):

* The P600-replacement SC-PX1V is expected to start in Japan at the equivalent of about $722. It has the basic, built-in roll paper capability. The printer is 20.3x14.5x7.3 inches.

* The P800-replacement SC-PX1VL is expected to start in Japan at the equivalent of about $1353. It has the more advanced, but optional separate, roll paper unit--from a picture, it looked more enclosed than the P800's unit. The printer is 24.2x14.5x7.8 inches.

* Both printers have user-replaceable waste ink tanks (the P600 does not have one, but the P800 does).

* There were reports that both printers print at 5760x1440 dpi, which presumably would mean 360 ppi, with a 1.5 pl minimum droplet size. This seems odd insofar as the current P10000 and P20000, and the new P7570 and P9570, have all abandoned 2880x1440 dpi for 360 ppi in favor of 2400x1200 dpi for 300 ppi.

 

[Petruska]

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Sounds like they finally go it right.

Bob P.

 

[Ken60]

24 hours later and still nothing on the Epson UK site...... most companies have a timed announcement and it goes out in all marketplaces.

I am most interested to see how they made it weight less , when the previous was no way as well built as the Canon Pro 1000 . If they have managed to improve the build and flimsy trays , whilst also reducing weight, it will be an amazing thing.

 

[DotCom Editor]

The new printer is 70% smaller...

I believe it occupies 70 percent of the space required for a P800. That means it's 30 percent smaller, not 70 percent smaller.

Just look at the image; 70 percent smaller would make the thing teeny tiny.

 

[johnami]

At last...............no black ink switching.................

 

[DotCom Editor]

At last...............no black ink switching.................

For decades, Epson was telling us that PK/MK switching had huge advantages. Now, it seems Epson is repudiating its long-standing past position. Kind of hard for Epson to defend switching now.

 

[Michael Fryd]

At last...............no black ink switching.................

For decades, Epson was telling us that PK/MK switching had huge advantages. Now, it seems Epson is repudiating its long-standing past position. Kind of hard for Epson to defend switching now.

It's still easy to defend.

PK/MK may have huge advantages, but the market wants a printer without switching.

It makes good business sense to sell what consumers want, even if you believe it is an inferior product.

I am not commenting on whether PK/MK switching is god or bad. I am merely pointing out that market pressures frequently outweigh technical considerations.

 

[crescentlight]

I just purchased a gently used P800 yesterday from a photo enthusiast for $600cdn. I like it being my first. I got it because of the large format printing. Would like to see the reviews of the new one then as time goes on.

 

[Gesture]

Thanks for posting. Surprised and pleased that Epson is refining this part of the product line.

Would adding a gloss optimizer to this class of printer have also been helpful?

 

[Howard Moftich]

At last...............no black ink switching.................

For decades, Epson was telling us that PK/MK switching had huge advantages. Now, it seems Epson is repudiating its long-standing past position. Kind of hard for Epson to defend switching now.

It's still easy to defend.

PK/MK may have huge advantages, but the market wants a printer without switching.

It makes good business sense to sell what consumers want, even if you believe it is an inferior product.

I am not commenting on whether PK/MK switching is god or bad. I am merely pointing out that market pressures frequently outweigh technical considerations.

Perhaps if they (Epson) had implemented the switching w/o the failure-prone valve, they'd have had something to warrant that technical consideration but as it has stood since the 3800, the valve is a total loser.

 

[Michael Fryd]

At last...............no black ink switching.................

For decades, Epson was telling us that PK/MK switching had huge advantages. Now, it seems Epson is repudiating its long-standing past position. Kind of hard for Epson to defend switching now.

It's still easy to defend.

PK/MK may have huge advantages, but the market wants a printer without switching.

It makes good business sense to sell what consumers want, even if you believe it is an inferior product.

I am not commenting on whether PK/MK switching is god or bad. I am merely pointing out that market pressures frequently outweigh technical considerations.

Perhaps if they (Epson) had implemented the switching w/o the failure-prone valve, they'd have had something to warrant that technical consideration but as it has stood since the 3800, the valve is a total loser.

It might be a total loser.But it might actually have been a good thing.

My point was that moving away from a shared black channel is not necessarily an indication that the technology was bad. It may simply be an indication of market preference.

 

[Charles2]

Michael Fryd wrote: ... I am not commenting on whether PK/MK switching is good or bad. ...

It seems that pigment ink sitting in a tube from cartridge to print head must flow from time to time or it will dry out and clog. Some people don't like automatic cleaning cycles (some Canon printers?). On the other hand, you better switch an Epson from PK to MK or vice versa from time to time, or you will get a clog in one or the other line.