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Canon M200 vs. Fujifilm X-A7

Started Dec 12, 2019 | Questions
Fjzk Regular Member • Posts: 220
Re: Clarification needed...

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Are you sayin' or implying that some of the EOS M lenses can be used with the RF mount in the future (when you used the term "Port")? I would think that would be a bit impossible unless they come out with some type of adapter (if that's possible). If I didn't already have an investment in the EOS M system, then I would have welcomed the RF system - but after what Canon did with the M system - I've got a bad taste with how they handled it all.

Hi Ben, I meant using a similar design, optical formula to achieve a similar size and weight, which is what they did with the new  RF-S 18-150

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Ben Herrmann
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Yes, I meant the X-A1....

Sorry - got my numbers mixed up (anymore).  The 16 MP X-A1 was a phenomenal camera.  That's the one if you can find one in great shape, then think about getting it.

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Swerky Contributing Member • Posts: 793
Re: Yes, I meant the X-A1....

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Sorry - got my numbers mixed up (anymore). The 16 MP X-A1 was a phenomenal camera. That's the one if you can find one in great shape, then think about getting it.

Ah. Sorry to keep on with the questions, but you owned one? Being an older model, how does its autofocus fare in lower light with mainly static subjects or slow movement? as I’m counting on using it in mainly such conditions. It comes with the first version of the 16-50, that has less performing IS and doesn’t focus as closely as the version II. 
Even though you recommend the X-A1, I’m thinking more of the X-A10 as it has the newer lens, and may come with some improvements being a newer camera. Has a similar 16mpx sensor. Don’t need the hotshoe, as the X-A10 doesn’t have one. Not sure whether I’m correct with such a choice.

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Maxmolly7
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Re: Canon M200 vs. Fujifilm X-A7

The M200 has no viewfinder and no hotshoe for external flash in case needed. The image quality is better than smartphone plus allows some cropping in post-processing.

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arrow501 Senior Member • Posts: 1,030
Re: That's why you need to find one on the market...

Ben Herrmann wrote:

...whether on eBay or wherever, because these are high performing cameras that will put a smile on your face. Even if you have to order from a Japanese vendor from Japan or Hong Kong (Taiwan has some good vendors also). They sold well and nothing is set in stone - as of yet - as to their discontinuing their line. That's why it is more important than ever to find out.

Here are some X-A5 shots - look at the colors:

ISO 200

ISO 800 with Godox flash in bounce mode.

ISO 12,800

ISO 6400

ISO 200

ISO 400

Hi Ben, lovely colours in these shots and the ones you posted earlier. Would you mind telling me what you use to do your edits for raw and jpegs please? When shooting raw do you use the software's standard colour profile, one of it's camera simulations or something else?

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Ben Herrmann
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No issues for the way I shoot (shot)...
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The X-A1 had no issues (up to a point - meaning almost darkness) in low light. I've shot a variety of still subjects or slow moving subjects in those conditions. Now having said that, although the focus is (was) average for that camera at that time, it is not something you would use for higher speed scenarios. In fact, I may look for another one somewhere because it was such a pleasure to shoot with.

Here are some quick sample images to address your questions/concerns. These photos below were taken several years ago at the Tryon Palace historical area in New Bern, NC (where some of the series "Outlander" was filmed). It was evening, and we went to watch the various colonial Christmas celebrations (it was December). The temps were around 34 F at the time I shot these. NOTE - Except for the first image, most of the scenes were almost dark and lighting was very, very low. Of course, the photos make it look like it was much brighter, which was not the case.

All images shot in Aperture Priority Mode F5 to 6.3 and at various shutter speeds - with ISO's going up to 12,800. Exif data is not present because the batch conversion program that I use is called "Irfanview," which I love to use (it's free) because of all the options available for conversion. The only issue it has is that if you are converting a TIF image to JPG, the exit data is striped (bummer). My work flow involves converting from RAW, then to TIF (my master image format), and then for posting - to medium-sized JPG's.

Image shot at ISO 5000 - f6.3 at 1/30 shutter speed

Image shot at ISO 12,800 - f6.3 at 1/20 shutter speed. Any blurriness is due to movement that couldn't be frozen at 1/20 sec.

Image shot at ISO 12,800 - f6.3 at 1/15 shutter speed. Any blurriness is due to movement that couldn't be frozen at 1/15 sec.

Image shot at ISO 3200 - f6.3 at 1/40 shutter speed. Any blurriness is due to movement that couldn't be frozen at 1/40 sec.

Image shot at ISO 12,800 - f6.3 at 1/10 shutter speed. Any blurriness is due to movement that couldn't be frozen at 1/10 sec.

Image shot at ISO 12,800 - f5 at 1/10 shutter speed. Any blurriness is due to movement that couldn't be frozen at 1/10 sec. Do note that these folks were dancing and moving constantly. It was a recreation of how the slaves (back then) celebrated Christmas - it was a sight to behold, but the scenes were actually much darker than this photo shows (almost pitch dark). Focus was not a problem, but the constant movement of the dancers was difficult to isolate.

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Swerky Contributing Member • Posts: 793
Re: No issues for the way I shoot (shot)...

Thank you! Beautiful shots. I imagine you chose lower shutter speeds because the camera doesn’t go above iso 12800?

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Yes, remember, that was an older...
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...entry level camera.  It was limited - but I've long since discovered that some of the best cameras - with regard to the quality of the IQ (colors, etc.) - involve some of the older models from various brands.

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Swerky Contributing Member • Posts: 793
Re: Yes, remember, that was an older...

Ben Herrmann wrote:

...entry level camera. It was limited - but I've long since discovered that some of the best cameras - with regard to the quality of the IQ (colors, etc.) - involve some of the older models from various brands.

Indeed I’ve noticed that as well. Older cameras had richer colours. That is why I’m looking for Fuji models with the 16mpx sensor. 
Thank you for all your input Ben. You’ve been most helpful.

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