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Steve Huff's Review - "Shooting like a Leica or Hasselblad"
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Bee Bee
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I think he likes it
I am not always a big fan of this particular reviewer but I find refreshing the fact that he tries to think a bit out of the box. Everyone is touting the FP primarily as a movie camera and stating that it is mostly unusable for still pictures since it only has a poor electronic shutter, a slow autofocus, no in-body image stabilization and no 10 images per second capability. Steve Huff looks at it from a still image shooter's perspective and find it very good. His review made me want to try the camera.
Cheers!
Abbazz
No disrespect to your good self but I will be reading gear reviews in a different way since I just now read this today:
The Camera Hype
photographylife.com
Mansurov is very well-respected and knows his stuff. :-D
Meuh
Senior Member
It can actually shoot 18fps for around 15frames without any blackout and clears the buffer in around 10 seconds.
J. Michael
Veteran Member
All the hype got my curiosity up so I downloaded one of the DPR raw sample photos (ISO 100) with some blown highlights & blocked up shadows and ran it through PS....... pretty impressed. Sigma claims 12.8 stops of dynamic range & I think they could be close.
Not a big fan of no "built-in" viewfinder (old habits die hard) but I can see why the highlight/shadow recovery, along with what appears to be decent resolution/color (and the small size) could make it appealing,
raw file (31 Megs)
and an animated gif showing before & after, image changing every 3 seconds.
reduced size before/after animated gif (5.2 Megs)
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"It's more important to click with people than to click the shutter" -Alfred Eisenstaedt
Not a big fan of no "built-in" viewfinder (old habits die hard) but I can see why the highlight/shadow recovery, along with what appears to be decent resolution/color (and the small size) could make it appealing,
raw file (31 Megs)
and an animated gif showing before & after, image changing every 3 seconds.
reduced size before/after animated gif (5.2 Megs)
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"It's more important to click with people than to click the shutter" -Alfred Eisenstaedt
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richard stone
Senior Member
I don't think Mansurov is saying anything new or surprising. Or important.
Marketing is important.
Still, the new fp is a charming camera, designed and made by a guy who likes cameras... Or is that hype too??
J
Jozef M
Guest
That Huff guy writes only positive things about camera/lenses, try to sell them over his site links. He makes a living from this, never writes negative, all things are great and never writes about cameras he doesn't like. I do not trust his reviews.I think he likes it
Jozef.
The "related articles" on that link are all gear-related. Actually, the out of the 6 refer to the camera he labels as overhyped. How ironic :-D
But in general, I do agree with his line of thought.
Back to the FP: I've handled one shortly, it is a well built, easy to pickup and shoot camera. However, I doubt it is worth 2000 euro to me, plus the additional costs for the VF-accessory (which is expected to cost another 300 euro or so) This being said, it is very enjoyable to use.
furtle
Senior Member
Setting aside the commercial aspect of Steve Huff's website, I find his reviews pretty thorough and plain and simple, very practical. I like the fact he is a stills photographer and enjoys quirky and manual focus cameras. A lot of work goes into his written section and the video and he will answer questions in the comments section. He is enthusiastic and reviews cameras he likes and rarely criticises but so what? Just read between the lines.
I also like Mattias Burling's reviews on Youtube.
For those that own M mount lenses it is good to have another option for those lenses.
As for the lcd loop, I feels it detracts from the fp's small size and would really like to see Sigma release a left hand side hot shoe EVF for manual focusing this M lenses.
It's good to see Sigma getting good publicity with the fp. Well done.
I also like Mattias Burling's reviews on Youtube.
For those that own M mount lenses it is good to have another option for those lenses.
As for the lcd loop, I feels it detracts from the fp's small size and would really like to see Sigma release a left hand side hot shoe EVF for manual focusing this M lenses.
It's good to see Sigma getting good publicity with the fp. Well done.
richard stone
Senior Member
And....Think about it. Huff writes about cameras he likes. So he doesn't have to say negative things about any camera that he writes about. So far so good.
And he likes the fp. Yes, that means he likes it.
I fail to see how not writing about cameras you don't like is an any way a bad thing. Or means anything negative about the person, or camera, in question. Unless someone thinks Huff has an obligation to write negative things about certain cameras.
And he likes the fp. Yes, that means he likes it.
I fail to see how not writing about cameras you don't like is an any way a bad thing. Or means anything negative about the person, or camera, in question. Unless someone thinks Huff has an obligation to write negative things about certain cameras.
richard stone
Senior Member
Mansurov wants to sound important and possibly profound. I think what he wrote is mainly drivel, and obvious to anyone who has spent any time trying to promote a product or service. OF COURSE camera makers want to use all available means to promote their products. Yes, I have experience in sales and marketing. Why does everyone act all bent out of shape when sales and marketing is based in part on getting the product into the hands of reviewers, etc? To ignore that kind of promotion would amount to a giant mistake.
Want to ask some good questions? Ask if cameras today are mainly "better" than 10 or 20 years ago? Clearly the answer is yes. And ask who owns DPR, and why?
So, "Gotta love this forum" means what, exactly, since we are all lending our services to the largest retailer in human history? Hoping to get what?
Who is sponsoring all this activity we engage in?
TN Args
Forum Pro
Thread took a strange turn.
richard stone
Senior Member
Not in my view: Gotta luv this forum....
I mean, Steve Huff writes camera reviews, and says he likes the fp. And someone suggests that he is off base because he only writes about cameras he likes. As if that is a bad thing.
Mr. M writes some sort of exposé about how camera reviews and such are a fraud, etc, as if the rest of us are children. One of us takes the bait and heads off into the deep water.
The fp sounds like a great little camera.
And I like the forum, in general. I just have no use for "Gotta luv this forum." What is that supposed to even mean? That our esteemed colleague cannot control the conversation?
And: This whole thing is sponsored by Amazon, as a purely public service? No, it is in service of selling cameras and related products. This whole operation is part and parcel of marketing and sales. And I like marketing and sales, which I consider to be part of a system of information dissemination, not some kind of evil network and process.
I am glad that Sigma has produced what seems to be a very nice camera, and I hope they do well with it. The promotion of the camera, with videos and all the rest, seems very well thought out and stylish, just as is the camera itself. It does not seem to be a camera to suit the needs or desires of all the Sigma forum participants, or the masses, but so what?
It's a very neat product, and it meets the needs and desires of Mr Yamaki. He's a lucky (and hardworking) man who owns a camera factory and can make any camera he wants; and if a few thousand other people like the camera enough to buy one, all the better.
If I had plenty of money I would buy the fp for low light work and the promised FF Foveon for use in better light. As it is, I will wait for the Foveon model, and hope it isn't too expensive.
JohnLindroth
Senior Member
How awesome it this for Sigma. No other Sigma camera has ever been able to be reviewed with this comment.
In general, this is a great review - thanks for sharing it. Maybe a camera to add to the bag, down the road.
-John
In general, this is a great review - thanks for sharing it. Maybe a camera to add to the bag, down the road.
-John
I forgot my train of thought on this Ted, because I was interrupted, but thanks for the link.
BTW, I do think that new equipment makes photographers better (not always, but often). I am certain that I became a better photographer, when I got my Canon 5 D and L series lenses. I've seen other photographers have similar experiences. Getting new, better equipment pushes photograhers to learn to use that equipment, and in the process they learn things about photography in general, such as what diffraction blur is, what an elecronic first curtain shutter is, what image stabilization is, etc. If I was still shooting with the Kodak Instamatic, cartridge 35mm camera, which my dad gave me when I was a kid, I probably wouldn't know what the aperture is, and how it can affect my photography. I wouldn't know about focus stacking either. I probably wouldn't know what artistic control changing the shutter speed gives a photographer either. In fact, I believe that I can safely say I wouldn't know even 1/4 of what I know now about photography and shooting photos. I doubt I would have shot with many models, so I wouldn't be as good a portrait shooter as I am now . . . not than I'm a great portrait photographer yet.
jande9
Senior Member
It may be old news for some but for me it is an eye-opening glimpse into the economics of running a website. There seems to be lots of money in reviewing equipment. Obviously I'm in the wrong business.
Rumours of impending product launches are always popular, but I had no idea that they drove sales this much. I think that manufacturers depending on bleeding edge shoppers this much is not healthy. You eventually run out of "new and improved" and then what?
Jan
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