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November 1, 2019. I wanted a mirrorless ILC for family videos, ryanair traveling and introducing my kids to photography. My "basic" demands are weatherproofness, separate dials for shutter and aperture, usb-charging, decent low light AF, in body IS, easy video shooting and a mic input (in case I get serious with video). Comfortable handling, logical UI and flipping/tilting screen are expected. Of course it had to be smaller and lighter than my Nikons D800/810. My budget was about $1500.

For the last years I looked on all new releases and thought: If only it had this or that feature I'd readily buy it. Of course I also waited for Nikon to deliver. Sony and Fuji didn't fit because similarly featured cameras are more expensive and also because their zoom lenses are quite big. Olympus em5 has bad ergonomics and terrible menus. I liked a lot the GX80 and then the GX9 but both aren't sealed and don't have a mic port. The G80 is fantastic but isn't in body usb charged. I had an opportunity to shoot with all of them and neither was disqualified for picture quality.

As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left so I bought it as soon as it arrived locally. I was lucky the store could upgrade the 12-60 3.5-5.6 kit lens to the Leica 12-60 2.8-4. I also bought a Kenko adapter for Nikon lenses just in case I'd want to fiddle with my Nikon lens collection, especially the 85mm pce and the planar 50mm. The whole package cost me $1700.

Update 06/11: This is a great camera and a great lens. Very intuitive and highly configurable menu, great ergonomics. Suddenly low light handheld shots (Hooray dual IS!) as well as lightnings and light trails (Vivat Live Composite!) became pieces of cake. Shooting video with eye AF is also very easy. After 20 years with Nikon I don't miss it at all!

The only con to mention is that there's no way of separating stills and video settings. For example I may shoot stills at a home gatherings with a speedlight at ISO 200, f/5.6, 1/160s, WB Flash Preset. When I move to video without any external light I must change the settings to ISO1600, F/2.8, WB Automatic. After several cuts I want some stills and have to quickly change all the settings back. Maybe I just didn't find yet how to do it. After all I'm new to Panasonic.
 
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Nice review. The camera has pretty much everything i'm looking for too, except for the 6K photo modes of the G9.

As you say you are new to Panasonic, in which case you might not be aware of the Custom Mode facility in which a different set of camera settings can be saved to a Custom mode (the G90/5 has 4 customs slots) and then recalled when you need them. See page 80 of your user manual - it might well solve your settings problem.
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
True, and with the new FW just announced adding a bunch of amazing things to the G9, i don't think there's a better bang for your buck. But the G90 is still a good option if somebody wants something a little smaller or that couple hundred $ is a must have, it even has my favorite video feature, IS LOCK.
 
In the US G9 body and G95 kit are priced equally. But where I live the G9 costs $400 more!

The second point is that coming from (and still owning) Nikon full frames I wanted a considerably smaller and lighter body. I considered the G9 but a smaller body won. ;)
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
please search on youtube for "Remove video recording limit in Panasonic G9"
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
please search on youtube for "Remove video recording limit in Panasonic G9"
I'm well aware of it , but that doesn't work since the the last firmware and would also void your warranty, if you weren't able to put it back to normal before returning it to them , though I'm told the fact you did it would still be in the system logs. **shrugs* . But as designed, G90 has no recording limits and the G9 does.
 
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As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
please search on youtube for "Remove video recording limit in Panasonic G9"
I'm well aware of it , but that doesn't work since the the last firmware and would also void your warranty, if you weren't able to put it back to normal before returning it to them , though I'm told the fact you did it would still be in the system logs. **shrugs* . But as designed, G90 has no recording limits and the G9 does.
I agree with you, but G90 has other limitations for video recording. If I would need video camera - I would go for GH5.

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Thank you for your responses. I'd like to clarify what I meant by "shooting video". I meant shooting family occasions. Although Nikon came up first with a video option in a ILC even on the D850, 10 years later, focus acquisition and tracking during filming is struggling and noisy. As a former hardcore Nikon shooter I acknowledge, with great sorrow ;-) , that Canon dslrs are much better in this aspect. The G90s AF although not the best in class has nothing to complain about.

As a matter of fact it's not the best in class in any feature. But as a whole (and considering my humble demands) it's better than any.

In any case the GH5 and G9 (updated) capabilities are way over my needs. And well over my budget. They are also bigger and heavier cameras. Also the unlimited filming is a much more valuable option for me than any other PRO feature.
 
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Thank you for your responses. I'd like to clarify what I meant by "shooting video". I meant shooting family occasions. Although Nikon came up first with a video option in a ILC even on the D850, 10 years later, AF tracking during filming is struggling and noisy. As a former hardcore Nikon shooter I acknowledge, with great sorrow ;-) , that Canon dslrs are much better in this aspect. The G90s AF although not the best in class has nothing to complain about.

As a matter of fact it's not the best in class in any feature. But as whole (and considering my humble demands) it's better than any.

In any case the GH5 and G9 (updated) capabilities are way over my needs. And well over my budget. They are also bigger and heavier cameras. The unlimited filming is a much more valuable option for me than any other PRO feature.
I've sold G81 after discovered that e-shutter RAW file are 10bit. Seems to me, G95 has the same problem.
and 1.25x crop - is just like shooting with 1" sensor.
AF tracking is not 100% reliable, so I'm not using it at all on both Panasonic/Nikon.
G9 I've bought with kit lens and free battery grip. If I sell this 2 on ebay, camera will cost me only ~750-800$
 
I've sold G81 after discovered that e-shutter RAW file are 10bit. Seems to me, G95 has the same problem.
With what evidence? All other Panasonics with a 20MP m43 sensor are 12-bit with e-shutter.
 
I've sold G81 after discovered that e-shutter RAW file are 10bit. Seems to me, G95 has the same problem.
and 1.25x crop - is just like shooting with 1" sensor.
AF tracking is not 100% reliable, so I'm not using it at all on both Panasonic/Nikon.
G9 I've bought with kit lens and free battery grip. If I sell this 2 on ebay, camera will cost me only ~750-800$
You need to be accurate.

The video crop factor of the G80 is 1.1 whereas the crop factor of the G90 is 1.25.

That's why the the G90 is not very popular among video people and the G80 still is (no I haven't one).
 
I've sold G81 after discovered that e-shutter RAW file are 10bit. Seems to me, G95 has the same problem.
With what evidence? All other Panasonics with a 20MP m43 sensor are 12-bit with e-shutter.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-g95-g90-review/5 - download RAW files
Install RD - https://www.rawdigger.com/download
and check histogram in shadows
I don't think that is anything to do with e-shutter.

"The G95 drops to 10-bit mode in bracketing and continuous drive mode, lowering dynamic range. These tests were unintentionally shot in one of these modes, meaning they do not represent the camera's full capability. We will re-shoot and re-assess this test and the score as soon as we can."

e-shutter is definitely 12-bit on the GX9 so I'd be very surprised if that wasn't the case with the G90. I must check out the bracketing modes on GX9 to see if they drop to 10-bit.
 
I've sold G81 after discovered that e-shutter RAW file are 10bit. Seems to me, G95 has the same problem.
With what evidence? All other Panasonics with a 20MP m43 sensor are 12-bit with e-shutter.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-g95-g90-review/5 - download RAW files
Install RD - https://www.rawdigger.com/download
and check histogram in shadows
I don't think that is anything to do with e-shutter.

"The G95 drops to 10-bit mode in bracketing and continuous drive mode, lowering dynamic range. These tests were unintentionally shot in one of these modes, meaning they do not represent the camera's full capability. We will re-shoot and re-assess this test and the score as soon as we can."

e-shutter is definitely 12-bit on the GX9 so I'd be very surprised if that wasn't the case with the G90. I must check out the bracketing modes on GX9 to see if they drop to 10-bit.
G85 definitely has 10bit in silent shutter mode, that's why I've wrote "Seems to me", as I don't have G95 and can't be 100% sure
To check it - we need one RAW sample with shadow area and 1/16000
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
please search on youtube for "Remove video recording limit in Panasonic G9"
I'm well aware of it , but that doesn't work since the the last firmware and would also void your warranty, if you weren't able to put it back to normal before returning it to them , though I'm told the fact you did it would still be in the system logs. **shrugs* . But as designed, G90 has no recording limits and the G9 does.
I agree with you, but G90 has other limitations for video recording. If I would need video camera - I would go for GH5.
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I agree with you that the G9 is the better overall camera but as the OP stated , for him the unlimited record time and size is way more important to him and others. The crop is annoying but once u've compensated for its fine. There's no convenient/cheap way to compensate for the time limits on the G9 (with the newer firmwares) . He's not doing Pro Video so codecs etc don't matter and he doesn't need the expense and inconvenience of a external monitor. So taking all that into account the G90 is best for his purposes.
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
The G9 now has 10bit internal like GH5 with new firmware

i dont think i ever recorded something longer than 30 mins
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
The G9 now has 10bit internal like GH5 with new firmware

i dont think i ever recorded something longer than 30 mins
Yea this has always been my thought. I know some people use it for events and such but how many out of total buyers? I can't imagine it's like half, even a third. Out of all people looking at a G9, could it be more than 5%? 2%?

I just can't imagine that many people have use cases that require constant >30 minutes at a time vs the usual short clips i see most. Even youtubers don't typically hit 30 minutes. On the other hand, that 10bit internal and HDR sounds like an interesting option, i can't wait to play around with it.
 
As soon as the G90 (G95 in some regions) was announced no excuses were left
the price is co close to G9, so I see no chance for this camera.
But happy for you and thank you for good review.
The G9 has video recording limits for 4K (30mins) and 4K60 (10mins). The G90 does not. So it depends on the video requirements of the user.
The G9 now has 10bit internal like GH5 with new firmware

i dont think i ever recorded something longer than 30 mins
Yea this has always been my thought. I know some people use it for events and such but how many out of total buyers? I can't imagine it's like half, even a third. Out of all people looking at a G9, could it be more than 5%? 2%?

I just can't imagine that many people have use cases that require constant >30 minutes at a time vs the usual short clips i see most. Even youtubers don't typically hit 30 minutes. On the other hand, that 10bit internal and HDR sounds like an interesting option, i can't wait to play around with it.
and I agree. I was just pointing out the reason I'd heard from a few people why they wanted the G90 over the G9 despite the G9 being a better camera overall. All discussions up to this point made it seem like the G9 was a no brainer in all cases and they couldn't figure out why someone would go for the other camera. This particular use case , despite how small, is a rationale for going for the G90 instead.
 
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