90D Green tint manual white balance?

[Louisszq]

Hi guys, bought my 90D recently, i take videos primarily and im a little bit upset about my colors.

All of these pic are screenshot of my actual footages.
Shot on 90D , EOSHD C-LOG.

First three images are shot in manual white balance, the later three in AWB Ambience priority. As you can see there is very obvious tint/overlay of green which i have to +22 magenta tint during color correction. This happens not just in EOSHD C-log PP, as long as it is in manual white balance, in any profile, it will have green tint/cast/overlay. Is anyone having the same issue? Someone please enlightened me. Its bugging me, i thought i could turn a blind eye about this issue, i don want to be shooting in AWB forever ;-(

Having said i am an owner of the 80D too, i've compared it side by side, both same settings, same lens, same PP, and it is very obvious that the 90D looks "greener".

 

[Sharlin]

Are you sure the camera WB is set to neutral on the green–magenta axis?

 

[DavidArmenPhoto]

Are you sure the camera WB is set to neutral on the green–magenta axis?

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Check this +/- setting in your WB menu, it might be up by the G portion, bring it back to center.

 

[rmexpress22]

Have you tried using a different picture profile?

I tried the EOS HD C log on my M6 2 and in shadows, I don't always get colors if I pull up the exposure a little. My white balance was the same as with other profiles but who knows, maybe it's affecting you in another way.

I think there's two types of AWB. You can toggle to the other setting to see if that helps.

 

[Louisszq]

Are you sure the camera WB is set to neutral on the green–magenta axis?

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Check this +/- setting in your WB menu, it might be up by the G portion, bring it back to center.

Yeah, i even factory reset all the settings and it didnt work. my WB shift is 0,0.

In manual WB, i need to shift my magenta to M9 so that it looks more balanced, which i think it shouldnt be the case right?



Let me post pictures of proper comparison with all the settings listed together when i get home. Thanks for the reply guys i appreciate it, I've been googling this problem but seems like im the only one.

 

[Louisszq]

Have you tried using a different picture profile?

I tried the EOS HD C log on my M6 2 and in shadows, I don't always get colors if I pull up the exposure a little. My white balance was the same as with other profiles but who knows, maybe it's affecting you in another way.

I think there's two types of AWB. You can toggle to the other setting to see if that helps.

Yep, i used Technicolor's Cinestyle, also appear greenish. The only way to make it look natural is AWB. AWB is a function I do not want to rely on, thus this thread is made haha

 

[Louisszq]

Hi guys, sorry for the bad picture composition, but there it is, the settings that i used

Auto PP/EOSHD C-log PP, AWB White priority

VS

Auto PP/EOHD C-log PP, Manual White balance with 0,0 shift of colors.

 

[MitchAlsup]

All of these pic are screenshot of my actual footages.
Shot on 90D , EOSHD C-LOG.

This is a perfect example of why one shoots RAW and does color balancing later.

The proper correction on this is to use the "color temperature" setting in post processing.

A grey card would help a lot, too.

 

[BlueRay2]

looks like it is time to send the camera in to the canon repair shop. BTW, those posted shots seem to be underexposed quite a bit on my screen!

 

[DavidArmenPhoto]

All of these pic are screenshot of my actual footages.
Shot on 90D , EOSHD C-LOG.

This is a perfect example of why one shoots RAW and does color balancing later.

The proper correction on this is to use the "color temperature" setting in post processing.

A grey card would help a lot, too.

His original post states it is regarding video. That camera does not shoot raw videos. It does not even have true log gamma or 10bit video. It is only 8bit 4:2:0 h.264 IPB compression. Getting White balance correct in-camera is very important.

Also, I would blame the third party “log” picture profile way before I thought about taking the camera to canon but since the cast is present in all picture profiles then it can indeed be a more difficult issue and may indeed require Canon’s attention.

 

[Sharlin]

All of these pic are screenshot of my actual footages.
Shot on 90D , EOSHD C-LOG.

This is a perfect example of why one shoots RAW and does color balancing later.

Cameras shooting RAW video are in a bit different price class than the 90D.

 

[Louisszq]

looks like it is time to send the camera in to the canon repair shop. BTW, those posted shots seem to be underexposed quite a bit on my screen!

Yes i do admit they are underexposed as my screen is adjusted to the max, and i forgot about monitoring my levels.

BTW Disclaimer, I am not a professional videographer, I just shoot this out of hobby for now! still a lot to learn, i only started this year :/

 

[Louisszq]

All of these pic are screenshot of my actual footages.
Shot on 90D , EOSHD C-LOG.

This is a perfect example of why one shoots RAW and does color balancing later.

The proper correction on this is to use the "color temperature" setting in post processing.

A grey card would help a lot, too.

His original post states it is regarding video. That camera does not shoot raw videos. It does not even have true log gamma or 10bit video. It is only 8bit 4:2:0 h.264 IPB compression. Getting White balance correct in-camera is very important.

Also, I would blame the third party “log” picture profile way before I thought about taking the camera to canon but since the cast is present in all picture profiles then it can indeed be a more difficult issue and may indeed require Canon’s attention.

Hmmm, damn, this means I have no other option but to go to Canon's service centre right ? :-(

 

[BlueRay2]

looks like it is time to send the camera in to the canon repair shop. BTW, those posted shots seem to be underexposed quite a bit on my screen!

Yes i do admit they are underexposed as my screen is adjusted to the max, and i forgot about monitoring my levels.

BTW Disclaimer, I am not a professional videographer, I just shoot this out of hobby for now! still a lot to learn, i only started this year :/

no despair, birding is a tough challenging hobby, but once you get in it, it is hard to leave it ;-) however, birding requires lots of practice because those little critters don't give you chance more than a few seconds to shoot. but it sure is lots of fun. good luck and happy zooming.

 

[Lemming51]

I could be wrong, but it looks to me that you're simply setting an inappropriate manual white balance. The samples below are indoor artificial light which AWB appears to do a good job of interpretting. Your 2 samples with manual WB show a setting of 5700K, which is too high for most indoor lighting. Typically indoor lighting is in the range of 2800K - 4000K. And if it's fluorescent lighting then all bets are off since it tends to fluctuate more through the AC power cycling. You have to match the WB setting to K value of the lighting.

Hi guys, sorry for the bad picture composition, but there it is, the settings that i used

Auto PP/EOSHD C-log PP, AWB White priority

VS

Auto PP/EOHD C-log PP, Manual White balance with 0,0 shift of colors.

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[Louisszq]

I could be wrong, but it looks to me that you're simply setting an inappropriate manual white balance. The samples below are indoor artificial light which AWB appears to do a good job of interpretting. Your 2 samples with manual WB show a setting of 5700K, which is too high for most indoor lighting. Typically indoor lighting is in the range of 2800K - 4000K. And if it's fluorescent lighting then all bets are off since it tends to fluctuate more through the AC power cycling. You have to match the WB setting to K value of the lighting.

Hi guys, sorry for the bad picture composition, but there it is, the settings that i used

Auto PP/EOSHD C-log PP, AWB White priority

VS

Auto PP/EOHD C-log PP, Manual White balance with 0,0 shift of colors.

Yes my friend, I admit i am not a whitebalance expert when it comes to indoors or outdoors lighting. Like I said, i just started videography, but i am pretty sure white balance affects blue and orange more than the green-magenta tint. Objectively what i am concern is why the green tint is so huge in my pictures/footages, not about how warm or cool my video look like. I have tried many going warmer or cooler, yes it has less green but my video would be too cool or too warm.