Advise me a good budget Mirrorless camera, Currently nusing Nikon D7200 .

[kapil86]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

 

[justmeMN]

kapil86 wrote: ... I am satisfied with it.

Then don't change.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I wouldn't buy anything more from that shop. Better to buy future purchases online, than to frequent a store that tries to pressure you into buying something that you don't want/need.

 

[TripleCoatedBokeh]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

Here's some good advice: your next upgrade should be mirrorless.

The very reasoned and reliable Thom Hogan recently came back from an African Safari. For the first time ever, he took only mirrorless bodies--a Z6 and a Z7. The result?

In his words, "...the trip was insane. Off-the-charts insane...Had the Nikon Z's failed me, I'd be furious right now, because in 25 years of going to Africa I haven't seen such an amazing parade of animals. Instead, I'm perfectly happy. These images speak for themselves.

Some of the VERY REAL MIRRORLESS BENEFITS he found:

• The EVF coupled with magnification makes a better-than-spotting scope (or binoculars) scanning device.
• The EVF allowed me to see what I was doing during near pitch black conditions (I shot the mostly nocturnal Hyenas at ISO 25600 successfully, for example; the following shot was almost an hour after sunset).

• The EVF allowed me to see what I was shooting in bright conditions (the rear LCD can wash out in bright sun, and the DSLR viewfinder can wash out shooting into the sun, too).
• The smaller size of the gear I was using allowed me to juggle two complete systems in the front seat of the Land Cruiser where I had very minimal space available (lens choice helped here).
• 500mm on a Z7 is also 750mm at DX crop on a Z7 (and 20mp), as good as you'd get from a D500.
• Complex metering situations, such as lions in foreground at sunrise, are far easier to evaluate when you're looking at what the camera is actually going to do (e.g. Custom Setting D8 set to On).
• Doing "manual focus touchup" when you have grass in front and in back of a subject is simple: magnify, adjust the manual focus ring with peaking enabled, shoot. Note that in the following shot, most of the Z's Autofocus Area Modes would pick up the foreground bush. Easily corrected.

Read all that and more here: http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/a-nikon-mirrorless-safari.html

All that exposes the DSLR for what it is--a tired, old weatherbeaten technology well past its sell-by date. Time to put it out to pasture!

BE VERY WARY of "advice" suggesting otherwise! Some here have a massive--and I do mean MASSIVE--conflict of interest. They own DSLRs, have seen people abandoning ship and not just the development cycles of their lenses, bodies, and accessories slowing, but also their prices rising. The more people who leave, the more such a trend will accelerate, so they have a vested interest in keeping people within the fold, so to speak.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!

Read the link, great review and endorsement. If I was a DSLR owner and happy with my kit I'd sit and wait for my lenses to drop in price and get some great deals on "dead" systems. Just my .02

 

[Brick Wall]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

Here's some good advice: your next upgrade should be mirrorless.

The very reasoned and reliable Thom Hogan recently came back from an African Safari. For the first time ever, he took only mirrorless bodies--a Z6 and a Z7. The result?

In his words, "...the trip was insane. Off-the-charts insane...Had the Nikon Z's failed me, I'd be furious right now, because in 25 years of going to Africa I haven't seen such an amazing parade of animals. Instead, I'm perfectly happy. These images speak for themselves.

Some of the VERY REAL MIRRORLESS BENEFITS he found:

• The EVF coupled with magnification makes a better-than-spotting scope (or binoculars) scanning device.
• The EVF allowed me to see what I was doing during near pitch black conditions (I shot the mostly nocturnal Hyenas at ISO 25600 successfully, for example; the following shot was almost an hour after sunset).

• The EVF allowed me to see what I was shooting in bright conditions (the rear LCD can wash out in bright sun, and the DSLR viewfinder can wash out shooting into the sun, too).
• The smaller size of the gear I was using allowed me to juggle two complete systems in the front seat of the Land Cruiser where I had very minimal space available (lens choice helped here).
• 500mm on a Z7 is also 750mm at DX crop on a Z7 (and 20mp), as good as you'd get from a D500.
• Complex metering situations, such as lions in foreground at sunrise, are far easier to evaluate when you're looking at what the camera is actually going to do (e.g. Custom Setting D8 set to On).
• Doing "manual focus touchup" when you have grass in front and in back of a subject is simple: magnify, adjust the manual focus ring with peaking enabled, shoot. Note that in the following shot, most of the Z's Autofocus Area Modes would pick up the foreground bush. Easily corrected.

Read all that and more here: http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/a-nikon-mirrorless-safari.html

All that exposes the DSLR for what it is--a tired, old weatherbeaten technology well past its sell-by date. Time to put it out to pasture!

BE VERY WARY of "advice" suggesting otherwise! Some here have a massive--and I do mean MASSIVE--conflict of interest. They own DSLRs, have seen people abandoning ship and not just the development cycles of their lenses, bodies, and accessories slowing, but also their prices rising. The more people who leave, the more such a trend will accelerate, so they have a vested interest in keeping people within the fold, so to speak.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!

Read the link, great review and endorsement.

Yes, yes it was. The last thing I'd want, though, is for poor ol' Kapil, already greatly distressed by his salesperson's assertions, to feel even more befuddled and insecure about his D7200.

But Kapil, if you're reading this, the answer to your query as to whether a "D7200 is not capable to take pictures like a mirrorless," is an unequivocal "yes!"

If I was a DSLR owner and happy with my kit I'd sit and wait for my lenses to drop in price and get some great deals on "dead" systems. Just my .02

Definitely! This is open season for DSLR dumpster diving. Prices on many such used cameras have cratered, as the market at large slowly but surely moves on...

 

[perrrob]

You already have a very good camera ... if you're happy with it then why change?
A mirrorless camera won't make you a world renowned photographer all by itself.

The biggest improvement you can make for your photography is upping your skill level through experience and courses/tutorials ... the camera is just a tool.
I bet you're not using your current equipment to it's full potential, very few amateurs do (me included).

I would avoid that shop like the plague in the future, that salesman is only interested in your wallet.

 

[Bobthearch]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

The salesman must think you are really gullible.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

I think you know the answer to that.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

D7200 is perfectly capable.

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

Look, here are images that other people have taken with a D7200.

Google search for D7200 landscape photos

These look like bad photos to you? All of these photographers shooting with a D7200 should switch to mirrorless?

I happen to use a D7100 and have no plans to buy anything else for a very long time.

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[Max Iso]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

Many mirrorless (not all) have some features your Nikon does not. IBIS, for example in the MFT system is pretty amazing with the newer bodies. One feature to highlight is a feature called IS LOCK which is on the newest Panasonic bodies, HERE is a video sampling what it does (it's a video IS feature).

Another mirrorless feature of value is a fully silent mode, called E shutter. Since ML don't have mirrors, being able to turn off the physical shutter allows them to be fully silent and without internal vibration, giving potentially sharper images at times. I use E shutter a lot when shooting candid portraits.

Im not going to go into everything but each format has strengths and weaknesses, you just need to decide which is more important to you. I personally own both ML and a DSLR bc i like the benefits of each. I find DSLRs much more fluid to use, less finicky autofocus, and much better battery life.

When i need the tricks of ML, i have one of the best in my bag (Panasonic G9). Your D7200 is still an amazingly capable DSLR. If you want my advice as somebody who has owned many of each format, save up and buy a ML and keep your DSLR. That way you don't have to choose. If you want to know which ML system to buy, that's a whole other can of worms.

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I'm told that I don't know a thing
But maybe with some time alone
We'll both learn what it means
I feel as though I owe you more
Than just these words of gratitude you read
So before it ends, my friend
I'll teach you how to, bleed...." -

 

[DeathArrow]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Not true at all.

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

If you are low on cash, mirrorless is the last thing you want to buy. Lenses and accessories are generally much more expensive. Also, with DSLR you have more choices for lenses and flash guns.

D7200 is still a good camera.

I would buy a mirrorless only if money were no issue. A cheap mirrorless with a cheap lens won't be better than a DSLR + a decent lens. Top of the line mirroless coupled with top of the line mirrorless glass are great. You will have to spend much more cash, though.

 

[a_c_skinner]

You’re got a nice camera. There is no reason to change and, importantly, I can see nothing on the horizon that will change that. Personally I would be cautious about buying more Nikon DX F mount kit, but that isn’t what you asked. In a year or so the future of that line will be clearer.

 

[kapil86]

Thanks I lot.

Even I was also thinking that DSLRs are good.

Because I am not professional and never tried Mirrorless so don't know about that.

 

[kapil86]

Exactly.. I. Completely agree with you... D7500 wouldnbe better option.

But I am shocked to know about that Sony 6300 was not fit for you.

 

[a_c_skinner]

NO! The D7500 wouldn't be better except pretty marginally and it has some features missing IIRC. You need to stop going into camera shops, and that is the voice of experience! Mrs S of course thinks the whole thing planned with no impulse buying.

 

[AlbertTheLazy]

Here's some good advice: your next upgrade should be mirrorless.

Very possibly. But does his 'next upgrade' have to be now?

The very reasoned and reliable Thom Hogan recently came back from an African Safari.

Nice for him.

And he got a blog post out of it. Not all of us earn anything at all from our photography and that means we need to get our own definition of 'value' out of what we spend on the hobby.

All that exposes the DSLR for what it is--a tired, old weatherbeaten technology well past its sell-by date. Time to put it out to pasture!

One day. Not necessarily now.

BE VERY WARY of "advice" suggesting otherwise! Some here have a massive--and I do mean MASSIVE--conflict of interest. They own DSLRs,

I have never owned a DSLR: went straight from film SLR to Fuji mirrorless. However I have a number of friends with various models of DSLR and they happily get enjoyment and good quality photos using them.

have seen people abandoning ship and not just the development cycles of their lenses, bodies, and accessories slowing, but also their prices rising. The more people who leave, the more such a trend will accelerate, so they have a vested interest in keeping people within the fold, so to speak.

Anybody with an existing DSLR system that they are happy with will be totally unaffected by any of that. On the other hand, anyone who does not want a bleeding edge system can currently buy additions to DSLR outfit rather cheaper than equivalent mirrorless kit.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

To the OP:

What immediate benefit to you do you expect to get from switching to mirrorless?

 

[JDC1958]

Unless you are just aching to spend a lot of money on new equipment, there is no real reason to change to a budget or mid level mirrorless setup. What you have is better than anything you will get for 1000.00 dollars new for camera and lens setup.

When I change to a mirrorless, it will be to a 4/3 system to save weight on the long reach lens I like to use for birding. Otherwise, I also have as good as I can afford for I like to do.

 

[FingerPainter]

NO! The D7500 wouldn't be better except pretty marginally

Well IQ is only marginally better (perhaps marginally worse for landscape shooters) , but there are significant improvements to metering, tracking and buffering that make the D7500 a significant improvement for some sports, wildlife and event shooters.

For most people, the D7500 is an improvement but possibly not a big enough one to be worth replacing a D7200.

and it has some features missing IIRC.

The very few missing features are of no real consequence to the vast majority of users. For the few to whom they really do matter, the D500 is their intended camera.

You need to stop going into camera shops, and that is the voice of experience! Mrs S of course thinks the whole thing planned with no impulse buying.

 

[PhotoTeach2]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

So a salesman says you need to upgrade?

I'm shocked.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

You will read that exact thing in this thread soon. Just tell PhotoTeach he's wrong.

Nope ... I do NOT think he should get a MirrorLess at this time.

ML is indeed the future but you said you were "satisfied" w/ 7200.

I would wait another year or so as ML is developing more newer options and features you may eventually want.

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

If you don't know why you need a new camera....

You don't need a new camera.

Exactly ...

 

[kapil86]

You are right...

 

[sportyaccordy]

DSLRs are fine; salesman is just trying to get money out of you.

 

[kapil86]

Thanks a lot for your honest advise. .

 

[Bandman45]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Not true at all.

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

If you are low on cash, mirrorless is the last thing you want to buy. Lenses and accessories are generally much more expensive. Also, with DSLR you have more choices for lenses and flash guns.

D7200 is still a good camera.

I would buy a mirrorless only if money were no issue. A cheap mirrorless with a cheap lens won't be better than a DSLR + a decent lens. Top of the line mirroless coupled with top of the line mirrorless glass are great. You will have to spend much more cash, though.

Great advice from Death Arrow, spot on.

 

[mosswings]

Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?

Here's some good advice: your next upgrade should be mirrorless.

The very reasoned and reliable Thom Hogan recently came back from an African Safari. For the first time ever, he took only mirrorless bodies--a Z6 and a Z7. The result?

In his words, "...the trip was insane. Off-the-charts insane...Had the Nikon Z's failed me, I'd be furious right now, because in 25 years of going to Africa I haven't seen such an amazing parade of animals. Instead, I'm perfectly happy. These images speak for themselves.

Some of the VERY REAL MIRRORLESS BENEFITS he found:

• The EVF coupled with magnification makes a better-than-spotting scope (or binoculars) scanning device.
• The EVF allowed me to see what I was doing during near pitch black conditions (I shot the mostly nocturnal Hyenas at ISO 25600 successfully, for example; the following shot was almost an hour after sunset).

• The EVF allowed me to see what I was shooting in bright conditions (the rear LCD can wash out in bright sun, and the DSLR viewfinder can wash out shooting into the sun, too).
• The smaller size of the gear I was using allowed me to juggle two complete systems in the front seat of the Land Cruiser where I had very minimal space available (lens choice helped here).
• 500mm on a Z7 is also 750mm at DX crop on a Z7 (and 20mp), as good as you'd get from a D500.
• Complex metering situations, such as lions in foreground at sunrise, are far easier to evaluate when you're looking at what the camera is actually going to do (e.g. Custom Setting D8 set to On).
• Doing "manual focus touchup" when you have grass in front and in back of a subject is simple: magnify, adjust the manual focus ring with peaking enabled, shoot. Note that in the following shot, most of the Z's Autofocus Area Modes would pick up the foreground bush. Easily corrected.

Read all that and more here: http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/a-nikon-mirrorless-safari.html

All that exposes the DSLR for what it is--a tired, old weatherbeaten technology well past its sell-by date. Time to put it out to pasture!

BE VERY WARY of "advice" suggesting otherwise! Some here have a massive--and I do mean MASSIVE--conflict of interest. They own DSLRs, have seen people abandoning ship and not just the development cycles of their lenses, bodies, and accessories slowing, but also their prices rising. The more people who leave, the more such a trend will accelerate, so they have a vested interest in keeping people within the fold, so to speak.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!

Read the link, great review and endorsement. If I was a DSLR owner and happy with my kit I'd sit and wait for my lenses to drop in price and get some great deals on "dead" systems. Just my .02

Talk about an evangelizer - Brickwall hasn't told you about Thom's post of this morning - "Will the Drawbacks Go Away?". In it, Thom quite clearly lays out where, technically and operationally, mirrorless is still catching up to DSLRs. News flash - it isn't at the top end, where the A9 and the D5 are in many ways even. It's at the bottom and mid market, where product price points make it difficult to impossible to stuff the needed computing and sensor horsepower into the camera body. AF imprecision is still an issue. Viewfinder sense of reality is still an issue. And, as always, Thom notes that ANY recent model ILC, DSLR or mirrorless, is more than capable of delivering top-notch images for you for the next decade.


Although the news of the Z7 from safari country is good news, Thom would take strong issue with Brickwall's use of his words here. He's never been one for flogging the technology as the first solution for photographic challenges. Instead, he would ask "how much practice have you been getting in various shooting situations?" and "how many workshops have you taken lately?" and "have you found an experienced mentor who can work with you to understand how to work the light and read the scene?"


If you're interested in getting the very newest gear and tech brownie points, listen to your salesperson; listen to Brickwall. If you're interested in advancing your photographic artistry, you already have one of the finest cameras on the market; listen to Thom and work on your artistic skills.


Then, a few years from now, when mirrorless cameras have come down off of their lofty price point perches, you will be ready to truly move up...because YOU know what you need, not what someone else tells you you need.