A late personal review of a camera that still performs - the NX Mini

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Hello all…

A little bit of background info. As a matter of background information, some of the most pleasant surprises that I’ve experienced with regards to evaluating cameras, have involved discovering models that have long since out of circulation. And this brings me to the NX Mini.

My entry into the Samsung camp has been when I picked up the NX300 kit at a great price some years back. Since that time I’ve acquired the NX30 and NX500, and I even picked up the smallish EX2F, which is a remarkable little enthusiast camera in its own rite. It was just recently - within the past several months, that I became intrigued with a small camera that seemingly didn’t make many waves, and that model is the NX Mini.

So why am I putting up a personal review of the NX Mini? Because enough of them are still available (new) on various markets, and with the proliferation of various 1“ sensor enthusiast cameras now-a-days, I felt it prudent to revisit the NX Mini. Additionally, we need to keep this forum strong in terms of participation, so here goes…

And why even consider the NX Mini in 2019? This NX Mini was introduced during the Spring of 2014. To be honest, I never gave it much attention back then. At the time, I thought it looked strange and it didn’t tick all the boxes that I had at the time. I guess it took 5 years later for me to do a complete reevaluation of this “sleeper” camera. What was unique about the NX Mini was the fact that it had a very sleek shape - perhaps not the best ergonomically - but if you remove the lens, it looks just like a small cell phone, even using a Samsung mobile phone battery. But more importantly, it has a 1” sensor, which is a huge step up from the smallish 1/1.7” smaller CCD sensors used in various enthusiast cameras up to that point.

Now enter 2019. With all the raving about various contemporary 1” sensor camera models from Sony, Panasonic, and Canon, I found myself drawn to the NX Mini. I read what I could about that model, and reviewed countless You Tube reviews. Initially, I got the impression that this was not a serious camera, but I keep on reading and watching.

And like I always do in the end, I took a chance. While looking on eBay (and Amazon), I noticed that quite a few of them were still available new, no less. In fact, here is the link to the new ones on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fs...g+NX+Mini&_sacat=625&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3

And the new ones available on Amazon (US):

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Samsung+...nid=6461714011&ref=sr_nr_p_n_condition-type_1

So I purchased one from an eBay vendor that I trust very much in Taiwan. I ordered the light green version - my wife thought it looked cool - and it arrived just a week later. It came with the 9-27 F3.5-5.6 IS kit lens. After looking at the NX Mini, I realized (subective) it needed an addition or two, and I found myself adding the following accessory items (not worrying about keeping it compact):

1. Because the shutter release button is so small, it would be easy to initially miss touching it to grab a shot, so I added the stick-on soft shutter release buttons, which can be found on eBay for a pittance.

2. I always add lens hoods to any camera I own, and if no lens hoods are available for a given model, I then experiment. So I screwed on a 39 MM UV filter, and to that I added a 39 - 52 MM step-up ring. I then attached a 52 MM silver wide angle lens hood (again, on eBay). I tried various step-up ring and lens hood combinations, but most of them introduced vignetting, so the 39-52 MM worked superbly, thus my adding the 52 MM wide angle (silver) lens hood (Leica style).

3. I also replaced the little wrist strap that came with the camera, and added a longer version - one that you can hang around your neck.

4. I also added matching camera cases (I just keep the bottom half on the cameras), which protects the finish.

Try to find the camera with the corresponding 9-27 MM kit lens (which has IS). If you cannot find any kits including this lens, you can also find the lens sold separately. Here are some of the ones (new) on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...9-27+lens&_sacat=625&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3

Since that time, despite some annoyances (which can occur with any given camera model), I found myself purchasing another NX Mini - this one being a brown version. My wife grabbed the light green one I had (she likes it), thus I picked up a brown and silver version. Here is a photo below showing what I’m talking about, along with the add-ons mentioned. I was fortunate in that both 9-27 kit lenses seem like very good copies. I don’t typically shoot with primes, but after hearing about the 17 MM F1.8, I may be looking to get that one next.



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Pleasant Surprises. Keep in mind, I can overlook many things in a camera. After all, I’m a general photography shooter, meaning I shoot scenics, architectural, portraits, and some special events. With that in mind, my end goal is to achieve superb IQ levels with any given cameras, and there several areas that I immediately focused on it with the NX Mini, and they were:

1. Dynamic Range (DR). Having a 1” sensor, this is the first area I focused on with the Mini. And to much my amazement, I found that the Mini has a superb DR capability. Now keep mind that I shoot with RAW with all of my cameras. I’m not a JPG shooter and I enjoy the dynamic headroom I get in RAW files. What I discovered with the Mini is enormous amount of headroom I have with those RAW files. In files that were completely blown out (highlights), I was able to recover detail that were heretofore impossible to recover with numerous other cameras - yes, even with some bigger sensor models like some Micro 4/3 models, and even more so, with some older DSL’s - now go figure?

Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. Whenever I get a new camera, the first thing I do to test the DR is to go into my back yard area (which is surrounded by woods) and I walk down to the woods, and focus the camera on the back of our small home. Because I am standing in a heavily shaded area, it's a tremendous test for a camera's DR capabilities as it tries to balance the brightness in the skies with the rest of the sky. At around 3 PM, the hot Carolina sun is so intense, that it completely burns out many an image. With many cameras, I am unable to adjust and recover - yet with the NX Mini, I was able to recover the details and colors perfectly, restoring blue skies that were completely burned out - as shown below with these two image samples:

Here is the untouched RAW (well, I imported it without any adjustments) and created a JPG.  As you can see, the skies and part of the roof area and back of the home are completely burned out, or so it appears.
Here is the untouched RAW (well, I imported it without any adjustments) and created a JPG. As you can see, the skies and part of the roof area and back of the home are completely burned out, or so it appears.

Now here is the adjusted RAW file - all of the details and colors have been recovered - and this was a huge surprise.  It showed me the great DR capabilities of the NX Mini.
Now here is the adjusted RAW file - all of the details and colors have been recovered - and this was a huge surprise. It showed me the great DR capabilities of the NX Mini.



2. Higher ISO noise levels. Another area that surprised me is in the area of high ISO noise levels. Now I keep the auto ISO set to no higher than ISO 1600 with this camera, and as you probably realize, regardless of the camera you own (whether 1”, M/43, APS-C, or FF), RAW files will tend to show a lot more noise (obviously) than the corresponding JPG versions. And that’s because nothing has been done to the RAW file.

What was most interesting was that even at ISO 1600, I was getting clean images - looking like they were shot at ISO 200 - 400. Very surprising indeed. On some of the image examples on the next posting, you’ll see what I’m talking about with some ISO 1600 shots. I didn’t go higher - probably will in the future.

3. IQ and color qualities. Let’s face it, we love (loved) our Samsung cameras for their way of rendering colors (color tonality). Some of the nicest scenic shots I’ve taken in the past have been with various NX cameras, not to mention the superb little EX2F. There is just something about those Samsung NX colors that stand out of the crowd. Well, the NX Mini does not disappoint here - to be sure. That same gorgeous color tonality is here. Add in the expanded headroom capabilities of the RAW files, and you have the ingredients for capturing some superb images. I’ll be posting IQ samples on the next post (reply) to this OP - so stay tuned.

OK - So what do I like and what don’t I like?

Obviously, our preferences are all subjective, so I don’t like to make blanket statements. As I’ve said in my opener, I can often overlook operational issues as long as the end result - IQ levels - are superb. And such is the case for the NX Mini. Of course, there are exceptions to that rule with any camera, in particular when operational quirks are severe enough to prevent you from getting the shot.

What I personally like about the NX Mini:

1. The Size. Look, I’m not one of those “got to have a pocket sized camera” persons. Sure, I like smaller, but I don’t put cameras in my pockets - never have. As I mentioned, the NX Mini is small enough, and without a lens attached, looks like a small mobile phone. With the add-on camera case, the camera is easy to hold.

2. Exceptional Dynamic Range Capabilities - alluded to above.

3. Fast AF in most scenarios.

4. Familiar NX menu system.

5. Excellent touch screen capabilities.

6. Actually very long battery life, considering you’re using a Samsung cell phone battery in the Mini. On a recently trip, I got around 540 photos before showing one bar left on the battery level indicator on the screen.

7. Superb IQ results.

What I’m not crazy about with the NX Mini, but I can live with them:

1. Just 3 lenses available at launch and then nothing else. And although I found the lenses to be quite good, they all have a silver shiny metal finish. I personally would have loved to see some rubber on the lenses - subjective, I know. But I get what Samsung was trying to do with the Mini - their attempt to make the Mini appear a bit Avant-garde-like with regards to style. So when you’re zooming with the 8-27, you are turning an all metal lens.

2. A lower rez LCD with only 461K dots of resolution. Like many LCD’s (even though with a much higher resolution), viewing the screen in bright conditions is almost impossible. I’ve learned to use it in such situations, and I’ve managed to compose and get the shots I needed. But yes, it could have been much better at the time. Other than that, I found the LCD screen to be no different than others.

3. A very small shutter release button. At first, I had a frustrating time to depress the shutter release button, so I added an add-on stick-on after-market soft shutter release button to take care of this issue.

4. No dials to be able to adjust aperture or shutter speeds like many cameras do now-a-days. But using the touch screen, you touch the area showing the aperture (or shutter speed), and it brings up a menu item, allowing you to change your menu using the arrow keys on the right side of the camera.

So, would I recommend the NX Mini in 2019?

By all means, YES - because you can get some great deals. Whenever I factor in a camera/lens performance vs cost ratio, I determine if a given camera is worth it or not. Looking at current prices, and considering the strong IQ capabilities, getting the NX Mini in 2019 is a no-brainer really, unless some of the issues I mentioned are strong factors against it (again, all are subjective). If you want the kit 9-27 lens, you have to find a package that includes both the body or lens. If not, there are also plenty of 9-27 kit lenses for sale separately for very good prices. As for IQ capabilities, the NX Mini still keeps up with the best of them, and in some cases, even beats out some larger sensor cameras on the market.

I give it 4 stars out of 5, only as a result of the LCD and the issues I mentioned. These are “keeper” cameras for me - thus I purchased two of them.

Image samples on the next posting.

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Bernd ("Ben") Herrmann
Fuquay Varina, North Carolina USA
 
Samsung NX mini :
21 Megapixels • 3" Screen • 1" + [ BSI ] + Sensor

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Kids and / or Pets....... good
Action and/or Sport... okay
Landscape Scenery.... excellent
Portraits Portraits...... excellent
Low Light w/o flash... great
Flash Photo (social.... unrated
Studio a/o still life...... excellent

7. Superb IQ Results...
Thanks for your very informative review, Ben !
... if I was not already a fan of NX mini,
after reading, I would buy one

What I can say, you're Not exagerating at all,
I would even increase your -
' Low Light w/o flash ' rating - from Great to Excellent !

The responsibility comes from dpreview :
the exact type of CMos sensor, ie BSI
is missing in their presentation ;)

See the results in very Low Light Conditions...
at Sea Level in a Well Lit City w/ SkyWatcher std reflector :
https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/tags/nx-mini
its IR-Cut Filter is more than easy to remove :
http://mecastronics.free.fr/SamsungNXminiTopIR.html

https://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php/topic,236962.100.html

trying to convince Pentaxians to require a 'Q+' from Pentax
... with the Same Excellent imx183 BSI Cmos Sensor :
Samsung NX mini, a Top Infra-Red ILC for $125€

Pentax could release a 'Q+' w/ Sony 1" BSI sensor

I wonder : when will Pentax release new product ?

at least, Pentax to release a 'Q+' w/ Sony 1" BSI sensor

as you see, not so easy... :(

;)
Wow, i never knew this camera had a BSI sensor, it boggles my mind how samsung is not making cameras anymore.

I currently have 2 and plan on keeping them :)
 
Samsung NX mini :
21 Megapixels • 3" Screen • 1" + [ BSI ] + Sensor

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Kids and / or Pets....... good
Action and/or Sport... okay
Landscape Scenery.... excellent
Portraits Portraits...... excellent
Low Light w/o flash... great
Flash Photo (social.... unrated
Studio a/o still life...... excellent

7. Superb IQ Results...
Thanks for your very informative review, Ben !
... if I was not already a fan of NX mini,
after reading, I would buy one

What I can say, you're Not exagerating at all,
I would even increase your -
' Low Light w/o flash ' rating - from Great to Excellent !

The responsibility comes from dpreview :
the exact type of CMos sensor, ie BSI
is missing in their presentation ;)

See the results in very Low Light Conditions...
at Sea Level in a Well Lit City w/ SkyWatcher std reflector :
https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/tags/nx-mini
its IR-Cut Filter is more than easy to remove :
http://mecastronics.free.fr/SamsungNXminiTopIR.html

https://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php/topic,236962.100.html

trying to convince Pentaxians to require a 'Q+' from Pentax
... with the Same Excellent imx183 BSI Cmos Sensor :
Samsung NX mini, a Top Infra-Red ILC for $125€

Pentax could release a 'Q+' w/ Sony 1" BSI sensor

I wonder : when will Pentax release new product ?

at least, Pentax to release a 'Q+' w/ Sony 1" BSI sensor

as you see, not so easy... :(
Wow, i never knew this camera had a BSI sensor,
it boggles my mind how Samsung is not making Cameras anymore.

I currently have 2 and plan on keeping them :)
Hi Technpix ! ;)

Advertising & Marketing Power :(
Sometimes the most innovative brand leaves the market, while...
the most conservative ones sell Million Cameras.

Since the launch date of the Samsung NX mini...
Canon made 10 Cameras which DR doesn't exeed 11 Ev !
11 Ev in Screen Mode to separate Real Progresses from MPix Race

Here is the Exposure Latitude Test from DPReview :
Samsung NX1's BSI APSc -- Sony RX10, RX100 = same 1" BSI than...
the NX-mini -- Eos 6D Mk II's Old Design FSI FF CMos sensor
-- 1/160 sec @ Base ISO, pushed +5 Ev !
.

DPReview Exposure Latitude test : 1/160 sec @ Base ISO, pushed +5 Ev
DPReview Exposure Latitude test : 1/160 sec @ Base ISO, pushed +5 Ev

.
Notes : the Eos 6D Mk2's pixel pitch = approx. 5.65x5.65 µm²
the Sony Rx10-100's pixel pitch = approx. 2.4x2.4 µm²
=> so their pixel area is 5.54 times smaller :o

If you keep both Samsung NX mini,
don't hesitate removing one IR-cut Filter.
The operation is very easy, and fully reversible...
+ the AF keeps working with 9mm and 9-27mm lenses :
.
Samsung NX mini TOP Infra-Red ILC
.
Landscape - IR - Photography
.
;)

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http://en.astronomike.net/m/134251.html
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/7467909648
 
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Hi there,

so I used the second body i had and converted it to IR, what do i do now?

how do I make it do all these effects that i see in IR photography?

everything looks purple on my lcd screen.
 
how do I make it do all these effects that i see in IR photography?

everything looks purple on my lcd screen.
That's normal...

now try to record a Custom WB on a White sheet of paper...

-> Sky will look Blue, but... Trees will remain purple :
NX-mini-9mm-BARE-imx183.jpg

and now try to record a Custom WB on one of these Trees...

-> Trees will now become +/- whitish...

You now have 5 Parameters to play with :
+ Landscape Lighting as usual...
+ Exposure as usual...
+ Different Custom (Kelvin Manual ?) White Balances...
+ Different Color and /or IR Filters...
+ Post Processing as usual...
= Infinite Possibilities
Landscape - IR - Photography

Important
: a wide majority of IR Photos on the web are shot with
IR Filtered Cameras + R72 Filter : so need ISO 800+, seconds, tripod...
The opposite for your NX-mini = about 1.3 to 1.5 Ev More Sensitive !

see the bottom of my page Samsung-NX-mini-Top-IR

Subscribing to an IR forum is a good idea... tell us which one...

Can't wait to watch your IR Landscapes, congrats again ! :)

;)
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I have the NX-Mini and the 9-27 kit lens.

Mine did break.

First I had an electronics friend look at it and he found a small ribbon cable breaks from folding and unfolding as you twist the lens to zoom or lock it.

But I really loved the camera so, since I live 1.5 hours from Chicago, I took it to a repair place down there. Had it fixed for $170. It works fine now. I just try not to lock the lens.
 
I will no longer lock the lens. Thanks again...
 
Hey Ben,

was a bit late to the party but fantastic share, thanks for sharing so much information and photos!

jumping in, i have also always been curious about the NX mini for years, and tracked it for a long time before i snagged a really good deal some months back for a used mint green with the 9mm and 17mm (yes!!)



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havent really had the time to take it through it paces but test shots so far show it really to be worthy of praise image quality wise

performance wise i tend to agree its a bit sluggish for this era, but fine so long as your a patient shooter with no rush. this camera is not for pro event photographers.
 
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Hmm, I see a lot of cheap Samsung now, like NX3000 for $110. But also one NX Mini, with 9mm for $180. A bit too much I guess. But it really seems...small. Seen other small cameras, but with a thick lens, not so interesting.
 
There are different strokes for different folks and no two will agree... :-)
 
Hi Ben, thank you for your review.

I've had an NX Mini for a about three weeks. Recently, we've been to a very beautiful place, where I carried my NX mini. It completely satisfied me during the trip, regarding every aspect, except one, which is I can't find a wireless remote shutter, which would come in handy sometimes.

The image quality is as you've described: "SUPERB", but there are minor things that may not be so good for some people.

One is the white balance. I find it to be frequently a little too warm, but for me it never is a problem, because I always shoot RAW and set WB to my taste in post.

Another thing is that you can't set bracket shooting and self-timer together, which is silly.

Another thing is that the 9mm lens, my only lens, is poor when the sun is in the frame.

Look at the following shot:

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Could you possibly share some shots with your 9-27mm lens where the sun is in the frame? Is it better than the 9mm lens?

Overall, I'm totally satisfied. The best advantage of this camera is, as you've said, its excellent dynamic range.

Here are some shots that I took during my trip. All of them were shot in RAW format and edited and resized to about 8 MP in Photoshop.

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I don't have any photos where the sun is pointing towards me, or is in the frame.
 
I have a couple from a recent trip. They are close to what you were looking for.



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Just a snapper, not a great snapper.
 
So the 9-27mm is better than the 9mm when the sun is in the frame. The beams of light are just in one color. Thank you for sharing the photos.
 
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Three sun reflection shots taken with the 17mm lens.
 
...of this camera. What continuously surprises me with the NX Mini is the superb high ISO performance given the smaller 1" sensor. I'm beginning to wonder if some type of NR is is also applied to RAW files in-camera? If this is the case - and you know it to be true, please let me know.

I question this because even at ISO's above 1600 to the max allowable in the NX Mini, the RAW files are remarkably clean. I know this may sound ridiculous, but at times, this NX Mini has cleaner higher ISO results than some larger sensor cameras - now go figure?

For example, last night we went to a Christmas concert in the small town of Holly Springs, NC. A traditional big band orchestra (Rt. 55 band) was giving a Christmas concert at the Holly Springs cultural center. I wanted to bring a camera with me and I settled on the NX Mini due to its small size. Once the hall lights were turned down, the camera showed a reading of 1/30 of a sec (the minimum I allowed in the camera for lower light situations) and F5 at ISO 2500. I hardly used any Luminance NR at all in ACR and the conversion process was too simple to be honest.

Here are a few results from that concert - not bad for such a small camera. The photos have the higher gamut Adobe RGB color profile attached, so for some of you, you may not enjoy the full rich look to the images. Others with monitors or browsers capable of displaying expanded colors, you will enjoy the result.

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So despite the caveats that some may have with this older 1" sensor camera, for general photography scenarios, this camera can net some really nice results.
 
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I have the NX-Mini and the 9-27 kit lens.

Mine did break.

First I had an electronics friend look at it and he found a small ribbon cable breaks from folding and unfolding as you twist the lens to zoom or lock it.

But I really loved the camera so, since I live 1.5 hours from Chicago, I took it to a repair place down there. Had it fixed for $170. It works fine now. I just try not to lock the lens.
Thanks for the tips, I guess I will never lock the kit zoom again.
 
Thanks Ben for the in depth review.

I read the whole thread and found no one mentioned that forgotten little 17mm prime.

Looking forward to see someone reviewing it as I am looking for a portrait lens for the system. I heard it was good, a must own lens just like Nikon 18.5mm F1.8 or the Lumix 20mm F1.7 lens.
 
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...however, with the scarcity of this lens, the few available are going up in price and I have to weigh that scenario.
 
I wanted to get that 17mm but ended up finding a Nikon 1 J1 with the 18.5mm, 10-30mm (which was broken but Nikon fixed under a service bulletin), and the 30-110mm for $225 so I ended up with that. But I still prefer my smaller NX Mini. I wish they would bring it back.

Hoping I can find a Nikon 1 V2 for a decent price at some point to replace the J1 body.

Still have my NX100 still.
 
Finally I got my copy of 17mm F1.8.

I have been looking for the lens for so long that I almost forgot this lens is actually in my wish list.

After playing around with Micro43 and Nikon 1 in 2019. I am getting a fresh restart with Nx-m mount, once again, with all 3 lens.

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First trial with my 17mm F1.8

My 2020 plan is to keep using M43 system along with NX Mini. Happy new year to all DPReview brothers and sisters.
 
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