Upgrade From D700

[BStudent]

The forums have helped me before. Thank you, and here is another request.

I see the D750 price. My D700 is old, loud, and (how many stops?) slower than the D750. Or are there other better options for me than the D750?

I have the 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II AF-S and a 50mm f/1.8G AF-S

Im a hobbyist shooting my childrens dance recitals, drama productions, sports, and portaits/candids.

Id like to stay between 1 and 2k $

And does the MB-D16 really not add any fps speed? Im used to the 8 fps of the D700 grip and wonder if i will see a huge difference.

Thanks for any reply

 

[PHXAZCRAIG]

I loved my D700 (gripped, 8fps) for years.

I bumped it to 'second camera' when I bought a D800e. While I really really missed the frame rate of the D700, I found myself swapping lenses to the D800e rather than shoot the D700.

When I went on a 3-week trip to Europe in 2013, I took a backpack of gear, but the D700 never left the bag. Handwriting was on the wall for sure.

I later added a D810 and loaned the D700 to a family member. The D810 was a much closer match to the D700. It went from 4fps to 5, which doesn't sound like anything, but it's 20% faster and you can definitely feel it.

Both D800e and D810 gained a slight frame rate increase with a large battery in the grip. Nothing much usable as it applied to crop factor shooting mostly.

The D850 is the true replacement. 7fps out of the box, 9 with large battery.

When I went from a D70s to a D200, I also went from the consumer body to more prosumer. I really like those controls, and I've stayed with them. The D750 is the modern equivalent of the D70. The D700 body/controls equivalent is D8xxx.

If you go to the D750, you'll give up something. Maybe something you are used to and miss. Maybe something you never really use and don't miss. For instance, max shutter speed goes from 1/8000th to 1/4000th. At the same time the maximum sync speed drops from 1/250th to 1/200th. That can make or break shooting with fill flash in sunlight. You may or may not care.

But you'll have an improvement in the sensor you cannot ignore or fail to notice, which was why I kept swapping lenses onto my D800e and put up with the slow frame rate. I suspect you'll love the D750 output. Whether or not it makes up for the change in user interface and shooting speed only you can say.

 

[Son Of Waldo]

I loved my D700 (gripped, 8fps) for years.

other than "sports" many might find a 'gripped' camera unnecessary.

I bumped it to 'second camera' when I bought a D800e. While I really really missed the frame rate of the D700, I found myself swapping lenses to the D800e rather than shoot the D700.

When I went on a 3-week trip to Europe in 2013, I took a backpack of gear, but the D700 never left the bag. Handwriting was on the wall for sure.

I later added a D810 and loaned the D700 to a family member. The D810 was a much closer match to the D700. It went from 4fps to 5, which doesn't sound like anything, but it's 20% faster and you can definitely feel it.

Both D800e and D810 gained a slight frame rate increase with a large battery in the grip. Nothing much usable as it applied to crop factor shooting mostly.

The D850 is the true replacement. 7fps out of the box, 9 with large battery.

When I went from a D70s to a D200, I also went from the consumer body to more prosumer. I really like those controls, and I've stayed with them. The D750 is the modern equivalent of the D70. The D700 body/controls equivalent is D8xxx.

"The D750 is the modern equivalent of the D70". Ummm, no, I don't think so.

If you go to the D750, you'll give up something. Maybe something you are used to and miss. Maybe something you never really use and don't miss. For instance, max shutter speed goes from 1/8000th to 1/4000th. At the same time the maximum sync speed drops from 1/250th to 1/200th. That can make or break shooting with fill flash in sunlight. You may or may not care.

But you'll have an improvement in the sensor you cannot ignore or fail to notice, which was why I kept swapping lenses onto my D800e and put up with the slow frame rate. I suspect you'll love the D750 output. Whether or not it makes up for the change in user interface and shooting speed only you can say.

I bought a D750 several years ago after owning a D700 for years. I've used the D700 only a handful of times since. For the photography situations described by the OP, a D750 (and maybe also shop for a deal on a Nikon 85 1.8G) makes perfect sense as a "replacement".

The OP can likely take his D700 into a shop to compare the shutter/mirror noise vs. the D750 (and the 6.5 FPS vs 8).

Anything over 1/4000 SS would be rare indeed for myself, the OP can weigh that option himself. The maximum sync speed going from 1/250 to 1/200 is a non factor with a speedlight, personally.

 

[jotjotzzz]

I just bought a D750 for cheap (~$700). And found out the camera is part of recall. So I'm getting it sent to Nikon after putting in the serial number for free. I think they will replace the shutter and a bunch of stuff and it will be all renewed. I hope that I made the right choice.

 

[Schrodingers_cat]

I see the D750 price.

They are becoming a bargain.

Or are there other better options for me than the D750?

Many.

At least in terms of added features, more resolution, better focus tracking, more dynamic range, and a host of other issues. D800, D800e, D810, and D850 all have something to offer that is not available in the D700.

A better question might be investigating whether any of these "better options" are meaningful for you.

Start out by being very clear about what you don't like about the D700 and what added features you wish to acquire.

This is a gear forum, so you can expect people to recommend gear that appeals to gear heads. Do you want to get a more advanced camera or just want to make photos of your kids? The D700 remains a very capable camera.

I have the 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II AF-S and a 50mm f/1.8G AF-S

Both excellent.

Im a hobbyist shooting my childrens dance recitals, drama productions, sports, and portaits/candids.

Id like to stay between 1 and 2k $

If you wish, you can stay with $0. Your D700 will deliver good images for the uses you mention as long as it operates.

 

[66GTO]

That D750 price may come down again?

 

[romfordbluenose]

There is only one true upgrade from the D700 and that's a D850 (or better). Anything else has at least one thing worse than the D700.

 

[rbmphoto]

Had an early US D700, and a very late one to complement a D3 I was using at the time. Actually could see a slight iq improvement over the production run - not unusual for a run with that many units. Either way, went to a D800e and never, ever looked back. Although the 810 is a better body than the 800e, I’ve always regretted selling the 800e - the sensor/filter, imo, is outstanding.

Either of the units will give you an image quality, and functionality, that will have you quickly forget the 700, great body though that it was in its day - Kind of like classic muscle cars, great in their day, some still obsess over them, few have them as their daily ride.

Depending on your sports mention, your other requirements, imo, would be better served by a Z6 as opposed to a d750. The D810 has a very quiet shutter, my Z7 is dead quiet...

Haven’t gone totally mirrorless yet, too many decades with a mirror, but Nikon’s are amazing, and fun.

good luck!

 

[shadowfax123]

The forums have helped me before. Thank you, and here is another request.

I see the D750 price. My D700 is old, loud, and (how many stops?) slower than the D750. Or are there other better options for me than the D750?

I have the 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II AF-S and a 50mm f/1.8G AF-S

Im a hobbyist shooting my childrens dance recitals, drama productions, sports, and portaits/candids.

Id like to stay between 1 and 2k $

And does the MB-D16 really not add any fps speed? Im used to the 8 fps of the D700 grip and wonder if i will see a huge difference.

Thanks for any reply

Based on your stated needs, you should consider a brand new D750 for about $1300. It's one of Nikon's classic cameras — a definite surprise when it first came out. Please read all the superlative reviews. And, at that price it is a real value. It's unfortunate that some are clueless as to the meaning of the word classic. lol!

Stay away from a used D800/D810 — they are "one trick" ponies (e.g. hi-rez speciality cameras). You purchase that camera for one reason only — it's hi rez sensor. They are slow/sluggish in just about every other way. And, as someone else mentioned, the only real upgrade for the D700 is the D850. I have two myself.

Another option is to go with the very capable D500. Again, if you're just a hobbyist, it will certainly fit the bill.

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[BStudent]

Looking at that D850 price is giving me a heart attack.

How many stops do i gain going from D700 to D750? There must be tons of improvement over all those years?

Thanks

 

[BStudent]

Most important would be gaining the extra stops, a more quiet shutter, and the better technology since the D700 release bringing me image quality and focusing system.

 

[nathantw]

I used my D700 for 4 years and when the D810 came out I jumped on it. The D810 was perfect because it had more cropping ability with the 36MP, had an ISO 50 (no need to carry ND filters), and most importantly, it had a 10-pin remote port. The port was the most important since I only need to carry one cable with me for my Gigapan and remotes. The Nikon D5 and D850 have that port as well. I'm not sure what the Z-cameras have in terms of a remote port, but I know the D750 doesn't have the 10-pin. If that's not important to you, then truthfully, if I were you, I'd buy a Z6 and not look back, especially since it's on sale today with an F-mount adapter.

By the way, I still use the D700 for family events and NBA basketball games because my family doesn't need to enlarge to great sizes and the camera doesn't have video capabilities so it's allowed in the NBA arena.

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[CMCM]

The D70 is a DX (crop sensor) camera. The D750 is full frame. Big difference. The follow-ups to the D70 are the D7xxx line...D7100, D7200, D7500 etc.

 

[Nikon 79]

I am one of those guys.I sold my D750 and have the money ready for a Z6.
The last 10 days i have been going through many Z6-Z7 albums looking to find the d700 colors.
i quit.
Yesterday grab my D700 and went to a park for shooting...
Those colors...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/58919412@N00/

 

[Nikon 79]

You gain 2 stops you lose colors!
I sold my D750 some days ago.
I will stay with my two D700 till they die.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58919412@N00/

Also.......This is an answer from a D700 user to a guy who was confused about whether should do the change from D700 to D750...
Have a look is enough

"I am a D700 owner for a year now. I have used the D750 for a long period although I was never an owner of one. The d750 is a lightweight camera compared to the D700 it feels much cheaper and more plastic than the D700 D700 was and still is a professional Camera the D750 is not.

The iso Capabilities of the D750 is better but that doesn’t mean that the D700 will let you down.at least up to 6400iso the raw files are usable as long as there is some artificial light or an additional flash used. The focus is a bit faster at the D750 but the D700’s is more accurate most of the times.

D750 has gone through some major issues since it was launched ..shutter issues leak inside the sensor issues and so on even used a D750 for a wedding once and the camera was shutting every 5 or 6 shots with the mirror locked up every time was a very frustrating thing. There never has been an issue with the D700 as far as I concern D700 is a reliable monster of a camera that looks and feels solid as a rock. Both cameras have a great white balance colors you get from both of them are beautiful prefer the colors in the D700 cause the look more classic and distinctive D750 has a better dynamic range but nothing way too much to shout about it.

The D750 Has also a video if you want to shoot video get a video camera or get a DSLR sucks on video and we all know that let’s be honest. I’ve used lots of different cameras including D3 D3s D4 D800 D810 D610 etc..the D700 has nothing less compared to those cameras..at least not terms of a capability of being able to get a great shot. It’s a Great camera It’s a masterpiece."

 

[Flashlight]

Looking at that D850 price is giving me a heart attack.

How many stops do i gain going from D700 to D750? There must be tons of improvement over all those years?

Thanks

Look at this chart: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Nikon D700,Nikon D750 (normalized for output size)

In the higher ISO range the D700 is on par with present DX cameras like the D7200. These cameras already surpass the D700 at lower ISOs. The D750 can deliver about a stop cleaner files than the present DX cameras.

If you tweak the Picture Controls you can let any camera deliver any colors you want. The D700 was a nice camera in it's day but the D750 is better in about every way except fps while gripped.

 

[Nikon 79]

Looking at that D850 price is giving me a heart attack.

How many stops do i gain going from D700 to D750? There must be tons of improvement over all those years?

Thanks

Look at this chart: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Nikon D700,Nikon D750 (normalized for output size)

In the higher ISO range the D700 is on par with present DX cameras like the D7200. These cameras already surpass the D700 at lower ISOs. The D750 can deliver about a stop cleaner files than the present DX cameras.

If you tweak the Picture Controls you can let any camera deliver any colors you want. The D700 was a nice camera in it's day but the D750 is better in about every way except fps while gripped.

I have never found the colors of the D700 on any modern camera.
It is a really repetitive and boring story anymore.It is a fact that came after hundreds of hours of discussions independatly of what me or you say or write.

 

[jotjotzzz]

Looking at that D850 price is giving me a heart attack.

How many stops do i gain going from D700 to D750? There must be tons of improvement over all those years?

Thanks

Look at this chart: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Nikon D700,Nikon D750 (normalized for output size)

In the higher ISO range the D700 is on par with present DX cameras like the D7200. These cameras already surpass the D700 at lower ISOs. The D750 can deliver about a stop cleaner files than the present DX cameras.

If you tweak the Picture Controls you can let any camera deliver any colors you want. The D700 was a nice camera in it's day but the D750 is better in about every way except fps while gripped.

Based on what you need the camera, if you are using it as a hobbyist and maybe some freelance work, etc., the upgrade to the D750 is pretty great. The D850 will cost an arm and a leg, it's a dream camera for everyone (including myself) but I don't want to spend that money if I'm not making lots of money out of photography. Sell your old D700 and get a D750 if you are looking to save money. The prices have now gone down and it's awesome. Also check, because some cameras were recalled (https://nikon.tfaforms.net/215) -- but this might be alright as Nikon will basically replace the shutter and a bunch of stuff for free, which means your camera will be renewed if you buy used.

 

[Flashlight]

I have never found the colors of the D700 on any modern camera.
It is a really repetitive and boring story anymore.It is a fact that came after hundreds of hours of discussions independatly of what me or you say or write.

You can 'prove' anything to be a fact if you use Internet forum discussions as evidence. Doesn't mean there's any truth to it.

 

[Nikon 79]

I was sure that your answer would be like that. No surprise at all.

Use your opinion as a "fact" and let me use my experience with many different cameras as another "fact"
As for the Internet forum discussions as evidence..
You know sometimes on these discussions participate people who their scientific opinion and technological knowledge are better than mine and yours. (Fact)