All in one refillable tank inkjet printer

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Is anyone using an all in one refillable tank inkjet printer? Specifically any of the following?

HP INK TANK 415

CANON TANK G2411 / G3411

EPSON ITS L382 / L3110

Would any of these make a good choice for photo printing? Or should I look for something else?
 
Is anyone using an all in one refillable tank inkjet printer? Specifically any of the following?

HP INK TANK 415

CANON TANK G2411 / G3411

EPSON ITS L382 / L3110

Would any of these make a good choice for photo printing? Or should I look for something else?
These are all four color printers. They are meant mainly for printing office documents.

Photos printed with them may be adequate for your purposes. However , the quality will not match prints made with a dedicated photo printer that uses more inks.

I suggest that you find a store that will allow you to make a couple of test prints of your photos and see if they meet your expectations.

Regards,
 
These are all four color printers. They are meant mainly for printing office documents.

Photos printed with them may be adequate for your purposes. However , the quality will not match prints made with a dedicated photo printer that uses more inks.

I suggest that you find a store that will allow you to make a couple of test prints of your photos and see if they meet your expectations.

Regards,
Four color printers are not meant for printing photos? Is this also valid for color laser printers? I don't think I will be able to find a store that will allow testing print photos.
 
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Four color printers are not meant for printing photos? Is this also valid for color laser printers? I don't think I will be able to find a store that will allow testing print photos.
Take a look at dedicated photo printers. They all use more than one shade of grey, light shades of cyan and magenta and often another color or two in addition to the basic CMYK inks. They do this for a reason. Better photos than just using the four basic colors.

As I said, one can make photos using the basic CMYK inks (or toners, in the case of laser printers) but the results will be better using a dedicated photo printer that uses more than four inks.

Additionally, the longevity of prints from a basic, mainly office type printer, is a question mark. One of the design factors in making inks for dedicated photo printers is optimizing the longevity of the final print. This may or not be taken into account in designing inks for more basic printers. I suspect that longevity is less heavily weighted for office type printers than it is for dedicated photo printers. Whether longevity of prints matters to you or not, it is worth knowing about.

Only you can decide if these factors matter enough to you to be worth the extra expense of a dedicated photo printer vs. the type of printer you asked about.

Regards,
 
Four color printers are not meant for printing photos? Is this also valid for color laser printers? I don't think I will be able to find a store that will allow testing print photos.
Take a look at dedicated photo printers. They all use more than one shade of grey, light shades of cyan and magenta and often another color or two in addition to the basic CMYK inks. They do this for a reason. Better photos than just using the four basic colors.

As I said, one can make photos using the basic CMYK inks (or toners, in the case of laser printers) but the results will be better using a dedicated photo printer that uses more than four inks.

Additionally, the longevity of prints from a basic, mainly office type printer, is a question mark. One of the design factors in making inks for dedicated photo printers is optimizing the longevity of the final print. This may or not be taken into account in designing inks for more basic printers. I suspect that longevity is less heavily weighted for office type printers than it is for dedicated photo printers. Whether longevity of prints matters to you or not, it is worth knowing about.

Only you can decide if these factors matter enough to you to be worth the extra expense of a dedicated photo printer vs. the type of printer you asked about.

Regards,
+1 on FRGorgas reply--,and if you do decide ,on a pro-level printer

B&H photo has a great sale going on ,for this printer:


Good luck,

Mike
 
Is anyone using an all in one refillable tank inkjet printer? Specifically any of the following?

HP INK TANK 415

CANON TANK G2411 / G3411

EPSON ITS L382 / L3110

Would any of these make a good choice for photo printing? Or should I look for something else?
I'm pretty sure that you already knew what the response would be. So, maybe you could share what you would be printing and how are your photos presently printed. If the question is can they print photos in a pinch..sure, but the results won't compete with photo printers, but if you go for a photo printer, you better print regularly and expect to spend some real money on consumables.
 
The Epson line is your best choice. I've used mainly Canon but the one Epson I had was a work horse. I would have got another if they had a wide version. As for the three color printers (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow) they work fine. Don't be fooled by two shades of a color or an extra grey, light black, etc. they're just out to get your Green ($). If your doing this as a business buy your paper in bulk, keep it cool and dry. Also, your craft stores are great places to get your picture frames on discount or closeout. Good Luck !
 
Maybe I should look for an all in one tank printer with more than the basic colors, but I do not intend to get a photo printer. I used to own one from Canon and the cost of ink was unreasonably high. Besides that I don't think the extra color (grey) made much difference in prints.
 
That's correct, if you check the specs on many photo printers they're all 3-color plus black. That Epson 3-tank printer (C, M, Y) I had was great for up to letter size, and cheap to run.
 
Maybe I should look for an all in one tank printer with more than the basic colors, but I do not intend to get a photo printer. I used to own one from Canon and the cost of ink was unreasonably high. Besides that I don't think the extra color (grey) made much difference in prints.
I do not think that you will find a large tank printer with more than four inks.

As for costs, it is all a matter of perspective. I have been making prints for about 45 years. The cost of inkjet printing, even using OEM ink and high end rag papers, is in my view quite reasonable compared to printing in the dark room. I have been making a number of 16"x 20" prints this evening. The cost of materials for each print is roughly $6.00 per print. In the 1970's a similar print in the darkroom would of cost four or five times that without taking inflation into account. As, I said it is all a matter of perspective and one's goals.

You have not said what your goal is for making prints. If you are wanting to make typical family snapshots you will likely be satisfied with one of the printers you mentioned initially. If you are looking to make higher quality fine art prints you will likely be disappointed.

That said, do be aware of the longevity issues I raised previously. I would not expect prints from one of these printers to last nearly as long as traditional color prints from the days of film. That said, protected from light in an album they should last reasonably well. However, to maximize longevity, I would stick with paper and ink from the printer manufacturer.

Regards,
 
If you are going to print with dye inks I would favor the Canon Chromolife 100 ink printers. But I don't know if the large tank printers use Canon's best dye ink. I would check the Canon web site.
 
Is anyone using an all in one refillable tank inkjet printer? Specifically any of the following?

HP INK TANK 415

CANON TANK G2411 / G3411

EPSON ITS L382 / L3110

Would any of these make a good choice for photo printing? Or should I look for something else?
None of the tank printers will be as good a choice for photo printing as even the more basic Canon and Epson photo-oriented all-in-one models,* to say nothing of a real photo printer.** But whether a tank printer would be a good enough photo printer for your own personal needs and standards is something none of us can really answer.

Why? The tank inks are a cheaper variety not up to the quality of the photo inks--you rarely get more than what you pay for--and the photo printers generally use more different colors of ink for a wider gamut and smoother colors.

If you really want a tank printer, there are tank printers with more than four colors of ink, which should be a step up. For example, the Epson L800 is a tank printer with six colors of ink. However, I don't think Epson has sold it in the U.S. market.

* Currently-available models are the Canon TS9120 and TS8220 and Epson XP-8500. Discontinued but still-available models that are arguably better for photos include the Canon TS9020 and Epson XP-960.

** Currently-available models are the Canon iP8720 / iP8750 / iP8760, Pro-100, Pro-10, Pro-1000, and larger; and the Epson XP-15000, P400, P600, P800, and larger.
 
None of the tank printers will be as good a choice for photo printing as even the more basic Canon and Epson photo-oriented all-in-one models,* to say nothing of a real photo printer.** But whether a tank printer would be a good enough photo printer for your own personal needs and standards is something none of us can really answer.

Why? The tank inks are a cheaper variety not up to the quality of the photo inks--you rarely get more than what you pay for--and the photo printers generally use more different colors of ink for a wider gamut and smoother colors.

If you really want a tank printer, there are tank printers with more than four colors of ink, which should be a step up. For example, the Epson L800 is a tank printer with six colors of ink. However, I don't think Epson has sold it in the U.S. market.

* Currently-available models are the Canon TS9120 and TS8220 and Epson XP-8500. Discontinued but still-available models that are arguably better for photos include the Canon TS9020 and Epson XP-960.

** Currently-available models are the Canon iP8720 / iP8750 / iP8760, Pro-100, Pro-10, Pro-1000, and larger; and the Epson XP-15000, P400, P600, P800, and larger.
I can't find the Epson L800, but I will consider more options as the models I asked about lack features such as ADF and duplex scanning/printing.
 
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The last photo-oriented all-in-one with an ADF was the Epson XP-860. I see Amazon has some certified refurbished ones for $185 (https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Expression-Printer-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01M1NQNCB/).
I just have been advised (by a reliable source) to specifically stay away from Epson, because of issues with ink drying up if a printer is not used regularly, in combination with the local weather.
I don't agree with that. The Epson XP-860 should not have significant ink clogging issues.

The issues with the ink drying up are mostly a problem with Epson pigment ink ("UltraChrome") photo printers (like the P400, P600, P800, etc.), and some of them seem much less affected than others. The Epson dye ink ("Claria HD") photo printers do not have much trouble with clogs. I have an older Epson R280 dye-ink photo printer at home, and usually it has zero issues. Once or twice after it has sat totally inactive for six weeks or something, a missing line or two in a nozzle check prompted me to run a single self-cleaning, which restored a perfect nozzle check.
 
I don't agree with that. The Epson XP-860 should not have significant ink clogging issues.

The issues with the ink drying up are mostly a problem with Epson pigment ink ("UltraChrome") photo printers (like the P400, P600, P800, etc.), and some of them seem much less affected than others. The Epson dye ink ("Claria HD") photo printers do not have much trouble with clogs. I have an older Epson R280 dye-ink photo printer at home, and usually it has zero issues. Once or twice after it has sat totally inactive for six weeks or something, a missing line or two in a nozzle check prompted me to run a single self-cleaning, which restored a perfect nozzle check.
Not exactly what I am looking for, but is the CANON PIXMA MG5750 a better photo printer? I can get this for around 65 € and it accepts individual PGBK, BK, C, M, Y "ChromaLife100" inks. I think there is a newer PIXMA TS5050 model, but this lacks duplex printing, while the PIXMA MG5750 I think supports it?
 
Not exactly what I am looking for, but is the CANON PIXMA MG5750 a better photo printer? I can get this for around 65 € and it accepts individual PGBK, BK, C, M, Y "ChromaLife100" inks. I think there is a newer PIXMA TS5050 model, but this lacks duplex printing, while the PIXMA MG5750 I think supports it?
I think the MG5750 is probably a better photo printer than any of those tank printers; it very probably uses four colors (CMYK) of ChromaLife 100+ dye inks to print photos. It will not be as good a photo printer as the Canon models that use five ink colors (CMYK + gray in the older models, CMKY + blue in the newer ones). Among those, the least expensive model I found quickly at Amazon Germany (not sure exactly where you are) is the TS8250 for €147 (https://www.amazon.de/Canon-Tinten-...-Duplexdruck-Papierzuführungen/dp/B07G5J417Y/). However, I doubt it has duplex printing.
 
Canon selling that printer for $149 is like the the pusher man giving away free product to get you hooked. In this case the drug is ink. I have two nice printers and even so I'm tempted.
 
I think the MG5750 is probably a better photo printer than any of those tank printers; it very probably uses four colors (CMYK) of ChromaLife 100+ dye inks to print photos. It will not be as good a photo printer as the Canon models that use five ink colors (CMYK + gray in the older models, CMKY + blue in the newer ones). Among those, the least expensive model I found quickly at Amazon Germany (not sure exactly where you are) is the TS8250 for €147 (https://www.amazon.de/Canon-Tinten-...-Duplexdruck-Papierzuführungen/dp/B07G5J417Y/). However, I doubt it has duplex printing.
Does Brother make an all in one printer worth considering?
 

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